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Edited on Sun Jan-11-09 11:49 AM by woody b
The 8:14 plane identified himself as "United 175" to the ground controllers. But there is no proof so far that it was N612UA (the tail number that is attached to the plane).
Conversely, N612UA sent an automatic ACARS message to the airline when it took off at 8:23. But there is no evidence that the pilot identified himself as "United 175". If he chose another call sign/flight number, ground controllers wouldn't have been confronted with two "United 175".
It is important to notice that neither the pilots nor the controllers, even if they were privy to the duplication, were "in on the crime". The maneuver might well have been part of one of the numerous exercises, be it "Vigilant Guardian", "Vigilant Warrior", or what else. Taking part in an exercise is different from being involved in mass murder.
If you think that the "both" departures scenario has a plausibility somewhere near zero, you need to explain to me:
How big is the plausibility that the ATC/pilot transcript is faked or erroneous?
How big is the plausibility of an simultaneous ACARS malfunction on two planes, i.e. that both of the "wheels-off" sensors reacted ten minutes too late?
How big is the plausibility that the man who was in the best position to watch Flight 175's takeoff - sitting in the plane directly behind it - reports erroneously airline (United) and/or type (Boeing 767)?
I have encountered a duplicated Flight 11 at Logan, a duplicated Delta 1989 at Cleveland Hopkins, and a duplicated Flight 93 in the skies over Pennsylvania. Therefore, a duplicated Flight 175 doesn't surprise me at all and is certainly much more plausible than one of these three errors.
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| -Two Flight 175 took off from Logan: CONFIRMED |
woody b |
Dec-30-08 04:04 PM |
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So you really believe there were two flight 175 |
LARED |
Dec-30-08 08:27 PM |
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More precisely: I believe |
woody b |
Jan-01-09 01:11 PM |
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What do you make of this |
LARED |
Jan-01-09 02:39 PM |
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research FTW. |
Realityhack |
Jan-02-09 11:28 AM |
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The ATC/pilot radio transcript disproves your speculation |
woody b |
Jan-02-09 11:59 AM |
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That is certainly one interpretation. |
LARED |
Jan-02-09 05:27 PM |
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Approach: Boston Approach |
woody b |
Jan-03-09 05:26 PM |
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I'm supposed to take your word on this; "that you're obviously |
LARED |
Jan-03-09 05:47 PM |
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You want to tease me, don't you? |
woody b |
Jan-03-09 06:08 PM |
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Translation |
LARED |
Jan-03-09 09:17 PM |
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***sigh*** |
woody b |
Jan-08-09 05:28 AM |
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So what does approach mean? nt |
LARED |
Jan-04-09 01:59 PM |
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ATC transcripts do seem to suggest the plane was in the air... |
anigbrowl |
Jan-04-09 06:27 PM |
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Agreed - where's the problem? |
woody b |
Jan-08-09 05:35 AM |
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OK, here's the official ATC translation from an actual ATC... |
MercutioATC |
Feb-17-09 12:52 AM |
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so if I follow, to this extent, woody b is right |
OnTheOtherHand |
Feb-17-09 12:20 PM |
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Thanks for the input nt |
LARED |
Feb-17-09 02:57 PM |
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Thanks a lot, Mercutio |
Woody Box |
Feb-17-09 03:58 PM |
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I can absolutely guarantee that there were NOT two UAL175s. |
MercutioATC |
Feb-18-09 03:36 PM |
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OK, so? (not rhetorical) |
OnTheOtherHand |
Feb-18-09 05:23 PM |
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No idea... |
MercutioATC |
Feb-18-09 05:30 PM |
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fair enough |
OnTheOtherHand |
Feb-19-09 05:16 AM |
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No satisfying explanation, too... |
Woody Box |
Feb-24-09 01:05 PM |
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Your guarantee is not satisfying |
Woody Box |
Feb-24-09 12:52 PM |
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"many of the 9/11 passengers were employees of Raytheon" |
Bolo Boffin |
Feb-24-09 01:18 PM |
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Bolo? |
Woody Box |
Feb-24-09 01:31 PM |
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Again, impossible. |
MercutioATC |
Feb-28-09 01:57 PM |
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Don't be so quick with "impossible" |
Woody Box |
Mar-02-09 03:33 PM |
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"Normally, planes of this size do not land at Hopkins.". Patently absurd. |
MercutioATC |
Mar-03-09 07:31 AM |
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So you say this AP report is BS? |
Woody Box |
Mar-03-09 01:44 PM |
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I'm saying that the people quoted didn't know what they were talking about. |
MercutioATC |
Mar-03-09 04:10 PM |
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And. . . aren't all of the actual ID's of the planes always known .... |
defendandprotect |
Mar-05-09 01:19 AM |
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That becomes problematic in real-time... |
MercutioATC |
Mar-05-09 07:34 AM |
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No -- that wasn't really a question . . . As I understand it, the airline |
defendandprotect |
Mar-05-09 01:00 PM |
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"impossible"..."absurd"... |
Woody Box |
Mar-05-09 01:04 PM |
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And weren't the controller tapes confiscated and destroyed --- ???? |
defendandprotect |
Mar-05-09 01:45 PM |
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Interviews of the controllers after the fact by management were destroyed. |
Bolo Boffin |
Mar-05-09 01:50 PM |
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I've heard the tapes of the military controllers . .. |
defendandprotect |
Mar-05-09 01:52 PM |
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They exist |
Bolo Boffin |
Mar-05-09 01:59 PM |
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No -- the civilian controller's tapes . .. not the alleged cockpit tapes . . . |
defendandprotect |
Mar-05-09 03:13 PM |
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I am talking about the civilian controller tapes. They have not been erased. |
Bolo Boffin |
Mar-05-09 03:25 PM |
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Destruction of evidence is nothing new in the last 8 years .. . . |
defendandprotect |
Mar-05-09 05:01 PM |
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I listened to them before I destroyed them all |
Bolo Boffin |
Mar-05-09 06:13 PM |
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That's what I thought . . . . |
defendandprotect |
Mar-05-09 06:41 PM |
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Maybe your Google is broken?? |
MercutioATC |
Mar-07-09 10:02 AM |
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Yes, it's a tape, but not what I was talking about . . . |
defendandprotect |
Apr-03-09 10:21 PM |
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I'm still waiting... |
William Seger |
Mar-06-09 03:10 AM |
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William... |
Woody Box |
Mar-08-09 04:22 PM |
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So United & American Airlines were involved in the plot? |
KDLarsen |
Mar-09-09 01:57 PM |
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Where did I state that? |
Woody Box |
Mar-10-09 03:16 PM |
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When you stated a hypothesis that requires their cooperation by necessity. n/t |
Bolo Boffin |
Mar-10-09 03:24 PM |
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Nah - which hypothesis, please? |
Woody Box |
Mar-10-09 04:00 PM |
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I think one of the best examples of what can be done by TPB is in a |
defendandprotect |
Apr-03-09 10:24 PM |
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Again... |
William Seger |
Mar-09-09 05:32 PM |
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Again - think wargames |
Woody Box |
Mar-10-09 03:52 PM |
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"it couldn't be done, since I can't imagine [it]" |
reinvestigate911 |
Mar-10-09 04:48 PM |
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LOL, you're confused... again. |
William Seger |
Mar-10-09 09:30 PM |
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All one has to do is look at "Operation Northwoods" or Nixon's "Huston Plan" . . . |
defendandprotect |
Apr-03-09 10:38 PM |
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You don't know any controllers, do you, Woody? |
MercutioATC |
Mar-11-09 07:44 AM |
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You have explained nothing |
Woody Box |
Mar-13-09 03:24 PM |
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"you keep alleging that I postulate two planes using the same call sign when communicating with ATC" |
Bolo Boffin |
Mar-13-09 03:37 PM |
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It's not my fault if you overlook my central posts |
Woody Box |
Mar-13-09 04:11 PM |
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Geez...this is like having Abe Linkman around again. |
MercutioATC |
Mar-15-09 01:46 AM |
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I was thinking about him just the other day. |
AZCat |
Mar-15-09 01:59 AM |
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My snarky response would be "I found him!". |
MercutioATC |
Mar-15-09 02:00 AM |
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You might be right. |
AZCat |
Mar-15-09 03:22 AM |
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Abe got served a few granite pizzas in his day. |
Bolo Boffin |
Mar-15-09 09:18 AM |
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Honestly, I can't keep track. |
AZCat |
Mar-15-09 10:30 AM |
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"Claims I thought were abandoned years ago will be back" |
Bolo Boffin |
Mar-15-09 10:41 AM |
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I think of it as "recycling"... |
AZCat |
Mar-15-09 12:36 PM |
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I call it "rebunking".... |
SDuderstadt |
Mar-15-09 04:55 PM |
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And you don't believe in the "grassy knoll" . . . ???!!! |
defendandprotect |
Apr-03-09 10:58 PM |
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Obviously, the controllers did try to tell their 9/11 experiences . . . |
defendandprotect |
Apr-03-09 10:46 PM |
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Tom Brokaw interviewed the controllers involved on national TV. |
MercutioATC |
Apr-04-09 02:14 PM |
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Destroying evidence isn't a good idea . . . no matter how many |
defendandprotect |
Apr-05-09 08:52 PM |
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I'm telling you that controllers are not your average breed of lackey. |
MercutioATC |
Apr-08-09 08:35 AM |
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However, if controllers are told one of the planes is under military control ... |
defendandprotect |
Mar-05-09 01:39 PM |
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Yep / nT |
Woody Box |
Mar-05-09 01:42 PM |
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Meyers was chin deep in this . . . |
defendandprotect |
Mar-05-09 01:53 PM |
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Let's say you're correct, and I don't buy that at all... |
Bolo Boffin |
Mar-05-09 01:51 PM |
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Focus . . . |
defendandprotect |
Mar-05-09 01:55 PM |
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You don't have evidence of a NORAD standdown |
Bolo Boffin |
Mar-05-09 01:58 PM |
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No -- NORAD has to prove that this was in any way normal procedure . . . |
defendandprotect |
Mar-05-09 03:10 PM |
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Bullshit. Your claim, your resposibility to support. n/t |
Bolo Boffin |
Mar-05-09 03:25 PM |
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BS --- Suddenly NORAD NO LONGER REPONDS ---???? |
defendandprotect |
Mar-05-09 05:03 PM |
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Nope. |
MercutioATC |
Mar-07-09 10:03 AM |
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What was the safety issue and who made the decision on that? |
defendandprotect |
Apr-03-09 10:48 PM |
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First, no controllers were told that the planes were part of a military exercise. |
MercutioATC |
Apr-04-09 02:19 PM |
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Well, unfortunately on 9/11 quite a number of things were not as usual . . . |
defendandprotect |
Apr-04-09 10:49 PM |
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More of your bullshit, D&P.... |
SDuderstadt |
Apr-04-09 10:53 PM |
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Unusual situation, but ATC procedures were followed normally. |
MercutioATC |
Apr-05-09 12:01 AM |
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WE have to concern ourselves with what happened with NORAD . . . |
defendandprotect |
Apr-05-09 09:34 AM |
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As I said, I won't answer for NORAD. |
MercutioATC |
Apr-08-09 08:38 AM |
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We aren't the only ones concerned about NORAD |
immune |
Oct-06-10 12:57 PM |
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Without a Boston terminal area chart |
cloudbase |
Jul-06-09 10:33 PM |
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You're probably right |
Woody Box |
Oct-03-10 01:31 PM |
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Mm,, have you talked to this Steven Miller? |
anigbrowl |
Dec-30-08 09:21 PM |
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No |
woody b |
Jan-01-09 01:23 PM |
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Ummm, Woody.... |
SDuderstadt |
Jan-01-09 01:34 PM |
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No |
woody b |
Jan-01-09 01:57 PM |
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Woody.... |
SDuderstadt |
Jan-01-09 02:28 PM |
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It's the local controller in charge of UA175. See my post #21 (nT) |
woody b |
Jan-02-09 12:14 PM |
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welcome to the dungeon woody b |
seemslikeadream |
Jan-01-09 05:51 PM |
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welcome to the dungeon yourself |
boloboffin |
Jan-01-09 09:00 PM |
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fuck that |
seemslikeadream |
Jan-01-09 10:09 PM |
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Jan-01-09 10:14 PM |
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Jan-01-09 10:29 PM |
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Man, did you happen to read the OP? |
greyl |
Jan-01-09 10:45 PM |
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which has shit all to do with your hissy fits |
boloboffin |
Jan-02-09 06:07 AM |
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Not to mention the search function... |
AZCat |
Jan-02-09 09:36 AM |
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thank you bolo |
seemslikeadream |
Jan-02-09 05:16 PM |
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Do you ever post anything of substance? |
Bjarne Riis |
Jan-02-09 08:30 AM |
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Agenda-driven know-nothings |
Twist_U_Up |
Jan-04-09 06:17 PM |
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What is oh so very obvious to some |
seemslikeadream |
Jan-06-09 09:56 PM |
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Feb-07-09 11:06 PM |
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Hello |
woody b |
Jan-02-09 12:21 PM |
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Jan-02-09 05:11 PM |
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Hi S9B |
woody b |
Jan-03-09 05:27 PM |
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You think that there were 2 175's. There is no need to debunk that. |
boloboffin |
Jan-03-09 05:29 PM |
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So when did Flight 175 take off, in your opinion? |
woody b |
Jan-03-09 05:42 PM |
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The morning of September 11th. n/t |
boloboffin |
Jan-03-09 05:50 PM |
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8:14 or 8:23? (nT) |
woody b |
Jan-03-09 05:54 PM |
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I don't care. |
boloboffin |
Jan-03-09 06:22 PM |
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You should care |
woody b |
Jan-03-09 06:37 PM |
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But the question is... |
William Seger |
Jan-03-09 07:31 PM |
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"Both" is the natural answer |
woody b |
Jan-08-09 05:51 AM |
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"rock solid" |
William Seger |
Jan-08-09 09:10 AM |
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Think Wargames |
woody b |
Jan-11-09 11:35 AM |
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i just read this now... |
mrgerbik |
Mar-06-09 12:52 AM |
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You're welcome |
Woody Box |
Mar-08-09 03:59 PM |
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I agree |
Andre II |
Jan-04-09 02:22 PM |
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or maybe at least mind his own business |
seemslikeadream |
Jan-02-09 05:17 PM |
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Feb-07-09 11:12 PM |
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"Wheels up", "wheels off", "mechanical switcher"... WTF? You're confusing this former airframer. |
cherokeeprogressive |
Jan-04-09 01:44 AM |
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OOPS - an expert has entered the stage |
woody b |
Jan-08-09 06:23 AM |
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Steve doesn't stress that he was next in line. |
Theobald |
Mar-04-09 09:17 AM |
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Splitting hairs, anyone? |
Woody Box |
Mar-05-09 12:50 PM |
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Keep on obfuscating |
Theobald |
Mar-05-09 03:57 PM |
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There seems to be acomprehension gap here |
anigbrowl |
Jan-04-09 06:11 PM |
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good questions |
woody b |
Jan-11-09 11:46 AM |
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He does not deliniate anything |
Theobald |
Mar-03-09 03:44 PM |
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What is the "very definiton of hearsay"? |
Woody Box |
Mar-03-09 04:18 PM |
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You state - |
Theobald |
Mar-03-09 04:50 PM |
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Bob Woodward - the master of hearsay??? |
Woody Box |
Mar-05-09 12:42 PM |
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Hmmm.... Two flight 175s... |
William Seger |
Dec-31-08 01:37 PM |
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"shear genius"? |
BushDespiser12 |
Jan-01-09 09:36 AM |
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snort.... |
Twist_U_Up |
Jan-04-09 06:23 PM |
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Uh-oh |
William Seger |
Jan-04-09 07:48 PM |
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Truth needs no defense, only lies need to be protected. |
Twist_U_Up |
Jan-05-09 03:39 AM |
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Unfotunately, even if it's disinformation it has to be worked thru . . . |
defendandprotect |
Apr-03-09 11:06 PM |
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why would they need 2 x Flight 175s? |
bambino |
Jan-06-09 12:36 PM |
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Yes |
woody b |
Jan-08-09 05:59 AM |
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Intriguing . . . . |
defendandprotect |
Mar-05-09 01:17 AM |
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Yes, that's basically the direction to be investigated (nT) |
Woody Box |
Mar-05-09 01:07 PM |
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However . . . . |
defendandprotect |
Mar-05-09 02:22 PM |
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Duplication |
Woody Box |
Mar-08-09 04:39 PM |
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A lot to catch up on . .. |
defendandprotect |
Apr-03-09 11:57 PM |
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Interesting new source: 9/11 Commission memo |
Woody Box |
Jan-23-09 04:06 PM |
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I'm missing where you have testimony |
Theobald |
Mar-03-09 03:29 PM |
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See post #82 (nT) |
Woody Box |
Mar-03-09 04:21 PM |
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Someone here knows a passenger from US 6805 on 9/11? |
Woody Box |
Feb-06-09 02:54 PM |
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How on earth would they be that? |
KDLarsen |
Mar-06-09 08:32 AM |
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I'm not so sure |
Woody Box |
Mar-08-09 03:52 PM |
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Umm.... |
jberryhill |
Mar-08-09 05:39 PM |
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Your expertise is welcome |
Woody Box |
Mar-10-09 03:11 PM |
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Like I said above.. |
KDLarsen |
Mar-11-09 04:14 AM |
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You might be right |
Woody Box |
Mar-13-09 03:15 PM |
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95% of the flying public cannot identify aircraft. |
MercutioATC |
Mar-15-09 01:50 AM |
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Well...so 5% of flying public CAN identify aircraft then |
Woody Box |
Sep-23-10 12:58 PM |
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kick! |
Woody Box |
Mar-26-09 04:21 PM |
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Hijacking "on the ground" at Logan? |
Woody Box |
Apr-03-09 03:55 PM |
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Highly interesting . . .and re |
defendandprotect |
Apr-03-09 11:30 PM |
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Jesus Christ, Woody! |
SDuderstadt |
Apr-04-09 03:38 PM |
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Leave Jesus alone, please |
Woody Box |
Apr-05-09 01:47 PM |
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The 9/11 planes and their passengers |
scott75 |
Nov-13-11 10:11 PM |
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kick - in honor of Lynn Spencer |
Woody Box |
Jul-06-09 04:13 PM |
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And I will kick it right back to you |
Theobald |
Jul-07-09 08:26 AM |
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I never said that |
Woody Box |
Jul-07-09 04:48 PM |
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Theobald? |
Woody Box |
Jul-22-09 04:00 PM |
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Jul-22-09 04:06 PM |
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Hmmm...over a year now and still no answer... |
Woody Box |
Oct-24-10 01:16 PM |
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Probably as bored with this thread as everyone else |
zappaman |
Nov-05-10 07:14 PM |
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You are bored and go ROFL at the same time? C'mon |
Woody Box |
Jan-09-11 12:06 PM |
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you'll never get an answer |
zappaman |
Oct-20-11 11:45 PM |
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there was something strange going on |
Rosa Luxemburg |
Jul-08-09 10:50 PM |
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Ridiculous |
trumanh59639 |
Jul-24-09 02:26 AM |
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Ridiculous? Not at all, sorry |
Woody Box |
Jul-24-09 03:04 PM |
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A pattern emerges: United tracked different planes than the FAA |
Woody Box |
Sep-24-09 02:55 PM |
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UPDATE: the duplicated Flight 175 confirmed by ACARS messages |
Woody Box |
Oct-08-09 04:01 PM |
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Anyone here who happens to know Mike Williams of 911myths.com personally? |
Woody Box |
Oct-20-09 03:19 PM |
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Hey, you can probably find a contact email at 9/11 Myths for him. |
Bolo Boffin |
Oct-20-09 04:14 PM |
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Now as you say it |
Woody Box |
Oct-22-09 12:41 PM |
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UPDATE: the mysterious United 177 from Boston |
Woody Box |
Nov-30-09 01:36 PM |
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kick |
Woody Box |
Sep-14-10 03:48 PM |
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kick for Woody Box! |
immune |
Sep-14-10 04:58 PM |
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You're welcome |
Woody Box |
Sep-16-10 03:49 PM |
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something happened at Stewart AFB |
deconstruct911 |
Sep-14-10 10:57 PM |
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Well that solves it then... |
terrafirma |
Sep-14-10 11:25 PM |
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I never believed that the truthers until now! |
zappaman |
Sep-15-10 01:07 AM |
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I'm not interested in contacting CNN, thanks |
Woody Box |
Sep-20-10 01:53 PM |
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read again |
zappaman |
Sep-23-10 01:05 PM |
#194 |
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So it's been several years for this thread, find anymore truthy? |
snooper2 |
Sep-23-10 01:38 PM |
#195 |
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What`s a "truthy"? |
Woody Box |
Sep-23-10 01:55 PM |
#196 |
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You have a mirror in your residence? |
snooper2 |
Sep-23-10 02:00 PM |
#197 |
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Can you answer my question, please? |
Woody Box |
Sep-24-10 01:52 PM |
#198 |
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so what are you getting at? |
zappaman |
Sep-24-10 01:56 PM |
#199 |
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oops...zappaman has overtaken the baton... |
Woody Box |
Sep-26-10 03:55 PM |
#200 |
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Last Truthy Judgement |
snooper2 |
Oct-06-10 10:34 AM |
#202 |
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You have solved it! |
zappaman |
Oct-06-10 12:28 PM |
#203 |
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20000+ views! I think this needs a |
Woody Box |
Oct-09-10 04:56 PM |
#205 |
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kick |
zappaman |
Oct-09-10 04:57 PM |
#206 |
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Hmmm.... |
Soldier61 |
Oct-11-10 05:43 PM |
#207 |
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The niveau of these guys has really dropped to a new low |
Woody Box |
Oct-17-10 03:31 PM |
#208 |
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they must be outsourcing |
mrarundale |
Nov-06-10 07:23 PM |
#213 |
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The Massachusetts State Troopers To Investigate Logan Occurrences |
Woody Box |
Nov-05-10 02:27 PM |
#210 |
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doesn't the airport have a record? |
Rosa Luxemburg |
Nov-05-10 10:40 PM |
#212 |
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This looks pretty convincing |
Raphael Weber |
Jan-11-11 02:27 PM |
#215 |
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Probably 8:42 |
deconstruct911 |
Jan-11-11 09:02 PM |
#216 |
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You are right
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Woody Box |
Jan-14-11 10:45 AM |
#217 |
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wow |
zappaman |
Jan-14-11 02:03 PM |
#218 |
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This is a kind of post I don't understand |
Raphael Weber |
Jan-15-11 02:49 PM |
#219 |
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A pilot's strange encounter with Atta at Boston Airport |
Woody Box |
Apr-24-11 09:18 AM |
#220 |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Oct-20-11 08:29 PM |
#221 |
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911 |
rogerh7 |
Nov-03-11 10:36 AM |
#223 |
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Thanks for the laugh! |
zappaman |
Nov-03-11 12:18 PM |
#224 |
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Denialists wallow in willful ignorance |
rogerh7 |
Nov-03-11 02:54 PM |
#228 |
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"You have to remember a few on here are in denial about facts and a few are just delusional." |
zappaman |
Nov-03-11 03:46 PM |
#230 |
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911 |
rogerh7 |
Nov-03-11 02:08 PM |
#225 |
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You've already had your slamdown at JREF |
KDLarsen |
Nov-03-11 06:50 PM |
#232 |
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Did you see it? |
Larry L. Burks |
Dec-10-11 08:55 AM |
#281 |
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911 |
rogerh7 |
Nov-03-11 02:13 PM |
#226 |
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911 |
rogerh7 |
Nov-03-11 02:17 PM |
#227 |
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An ignored orb blew up tower 2 |
rogerh7 |
Nov-03-11 03:03 PM |
#229 |
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people in boats below would have had a good view of it |
Rosa Luxemburg |
Nov-03-11 04:15 PM |
#231 |
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Photog did NOT see a plane |
rogerh7 |
Nov-04-11 12:34 PM |
#233 |
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Witnesses support small or no plane at all |
rogerh7 |
Nov-04-11 12:36 PM |
#234 |
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"It's a bomb...it's definitely a bomb" |
rogerh7 |
Nov-04-11 12:40 PM |
#235 |
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A UFO EXPLODED THE SOUTH TOWER |
rogerh7 |
Nov-04-11 05:38 PM |
#236 |
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kick this thread ............ just because n/t |
grasswire |
Nov-07-11 07:37 PM |
#237 |
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The delights of wilful ignorance |
KDLarsen |
Nov-08-11 12:14 AM |
#238 |
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That stuff is impenetrable. |
greyl |
Nov-08-11 12:42 AM |
#239 |
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The orb was northwest of the towers before impact |
rogerh7 |
Nov-11-11 07:17 PM |
#240 |
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Bullshit. ALL videos are consistent with the flight path recorded on radar |
William Seger |
Nov-11-11 08:48 PM |
#241 |
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Fiction has no chance against Reality |
rogerh7 |
Nov-13-11 10:49 AM |
#242 |
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Confusing your imagination for reality is called delusion |
William Seger |
Nov-13-11 12:47 PM |
#243 |
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The real orb truth |
rogerh7 |
Nov-13-11 01:14 PM |
#244 |
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Insisting on delusions that exist only in fantasy |
rogerh7 |
Nov-13-11 01:20 PM |
#245 |
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"an orb could never be anything but an orb" |
William Seger |
Nov-13-11 02:00 PM |
#246 |
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The film locations of the orb |
rogerh7 |
Nov-13-11 05:28 PM |
#247 |
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Mocking kooks and delusionals |
rogerh7 |
Nov-13-11 05:37 PM |
#248 |
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Those arabs couldn't fly a kite |
rogerh7 |
Nov-13-11 05:47 PM |
#249 |
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Not a single person saw a plane on the ground |
rogerh7 |
Nov-13-11 05:52 PM |
#250 |
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The orb will always only be the orb |
rogerh7 |
Nov-13-11 06:14 PM |
#251 |
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Techmac gives the truth about CGI a doozy |
rogerh7 |
Nov-13-11 06:36 PM |
#252 |
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did you get tired of trolling JREF, 7forever? |
zappaman |
Nov-13-11 07:22 PM |
#253 |
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Serious delusions |
William Seger |
Nov-13-11 08:00 PM |
#254 |
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A small blob plopped into the North Tower |
rogerh7 |
Nov-15-11 04:55 PM |
#256 |
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That's bloody rich.. |
KDLarsen |
Nov-16-11 12:30 AM |
#257 |
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NY1 ORB |
rogerh7 |
Nov-16-11 01:25 PM |
#258 |
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Funny this doesn't look like an orb |
sgsmith |
Nov-16-11 01:41 PM |
#259 |
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He's trolling here |
zappaman |
Nov-16-11 02:10 PM |
#260 |
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REAL-TIME FAKERY ON ABC |
rogerh7 |
Nov-17-11 10:38 AM |
#261 |
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NORTH TOWER DIVE PLOP NOT 767 |
rogerh7 |
Nov-18-11 03:15 PM |
#262 |
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NO WING/S=NO PLANE |
rogerh7 |
Nov-20-11 12:20 PM |
#263 |
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Truth is often stranger than fiction |
rogerh7 |
Nov-26-11 03:04 PM |
#264 |
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Up to the minute plane fakery |
rogerh7 |
Nov-29-11 03:02 PM |
#265 |
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UA 175: Who created this fake footage from this rare south view? |
rogerh7 |
Dec-01-11 11:57 AM |
#266 |
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175 was in Pittsburgh when south tower exploded |
rogerh7 |
Dec-02-11 10:17 AM |
#267 |
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No plane from the west...it was an orb |
rogerh7 |
Dec-02-11 11:37 AM |
#268 |
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175 still in air after explosion |
rogerh7 |
Dec-02-11 05:38 PM |
#269 |
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MOCKING DENIALISTS |
rogerh7 |
Dec-03-11 10:03 AM |
#270 |
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Dick Oliver saw drone/orb |
rogerh7 |
Dec-04-11 12:05 PM |
#271 |
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Enjoying yourself? |
KDLarsen |
Dec-04-11 01:22 PM |
#272 |
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Adblock: |
greyl |
Dec-04-11 01:49 PM |
#273 |
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North tower drone had no wings |
rogerh7 |
Dec-04-11 05:01 PM |
#274 |
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Mark Burnback laughs at plane myth |
rogerh7 |
Dec-05-11 04:30 PM |
#275 |
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NO PLANE FOR SOUTH TOWER IMPACT IS PROVEN BEYOND DOUBT |
rogerh7 |
Dec-07-11 01:09 PM |
#276 |
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DID THE ORB IMPACT THE WEST SIDE OF T2? |
rogerh7 |
Dec-07-11 04:33 PM |
#277 |
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NO RIGHT WING...NO BIGGIE |
rogerh7 |
Dec-09-11 01:09 PM |
#278 |
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spam, spam, spam, spam, spam, |
zappaman |
Dec-09-11 02:20 PM |
#279 |
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The TWO SIDES OF FRAUD |
rogerh7 |
Dec-09-11 06:26 PM |
#280 |
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Zap? Your eyes are better than mine? |
Larry L. Burks |
Dec-10-11 09:12 AM |
#282 |
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Ok. Ok. Ok. |
Larry L. Burks |
Dec-10-11 09:18 AM |
#283 |
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NY1 aired orb live |
rogerh7 |
Dec-10-11 09:37 AM |
#284 |
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It comes down to an orb being called a boeing 767=LOLOLOLOLOL |
rogerh7 |
Dec-10-11 04:41 PM |
#286 |
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Where do Orbs come from? Deming N.M. |
Larry L. Burks |
Dec-10-11 10:10 AM |
#285 |
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An invisible oppostion of losers, liars, and simple denialists |
rogerh7 |
Dec-11-11 10:56 AM |
#287 |
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111111111111111111 |
rogerh7 |
Dec-27-11 11:25 AM |
#288 |
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FAKE PLANE IMAGERY EASILY PROVEN |
rogerh7 |
Jan-13-12 07:34 AM |
#289 |
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Jennifer spilled the truth |
rogerh7 |
Feb-08-12 06:13 PM |
#290 |
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0 for 4 |
rogerh7 |
Feb-11-12 04:37 PM |
#291 |
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Lawson gets ignorants to spread fiction |
rogerh7 |
Feb-13-12 03:55 PM |
#292 |
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THE DRONE'S POSSIBLE CIRCLE AROUND TOWERS |
rogerh7 |
Feb-16-12 12:24 PM |
#293 |
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TRUTH AND LIES |
rogerh7 |
Feb-18-12 05:49 PM |
#294 |
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NORTH TOWER DRONE |
rogerh7 |
Feb-19-12 01:16 PM |
#295 |
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HOW TO MOCK A MINORITY OF COWARDLY FOOLS |
rogerh7 |
Feb-20-12 11:20 AM |
#296 |
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No plane witness |
rogerh7 |
Feb-21-12 11:30 AM |
#297 |
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No Plane Witness |
rogerh7 |
Feb-21-12 04:38 PM |
#298 |
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sept clues |
rogerh7 |
Feb-21-12 06:37 PM |
#299 |
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BRING IT ON...ALL OR NOTHING |
rogerh7 |
Feb-22-12 11:04 AM |
#300 |
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Small hole, bogeyyyyy |
rogerh7 |
Feb-26-12 04:31 PM |
#301 |
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COMMON SENSE |
rogerh7 |
Mar-01-12 09:19 AM |
#302 |
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ONLY BALL SHAPED DRONES CAN CIRCLE BUILDINGS |
rogerh7 |
Mar-02-12 12:08 PM |
#303 |
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I CAUGHT THE BOGEY |
rogerh7 |
Mar-03-12 11:24 AM |
#304 |
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PROOF OF PLANE FICTION AND DRONE REALITY |
rogerh7 |
Mar-03-12 02:40 PM |
#305 |
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UNDERSTANDING THE EVIDENCE |
rogerh7 |
Mar-04-12 11:59 AM |
#306 |
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NO PLANE HIT NOTHIN' |
rogerh7 |
Mar-16-12 11:31 AM |
#307 |
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911 |
rogerh7 |
Mar-31-12 12:37 PM |
#308 |
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911 |
rogerh7 |
Mar-31-12 03:22 PM |
#309 |
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911 |
rogerh7 |
Apr-01-12 09:44 AM |
#310 |
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911 |
rogerh7 |
Apr-01-12 10:49 AM |
#311 |
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911 |
rogerh7 |
Apr-03-12 09:34 AM |
#312 |
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Kind of pathetic posting to an ancient thread |
hack89 |
Apr-30-12 08:48 PM |
#313 |
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NO PLANE...THANKS, DAVE |
rogerh7 |
May-13-12 03:18 PM |
#314 |
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CLARIFICATION: This thread has been HIJACKED by no-planers |
Woody Box |
Oct-27-12 02:06 PM |
#315 |