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Wed Jan-07-09 09:07 AM
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| 73. Clarification regarding more massive lower floors |
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I will respond to some of your other points and observations in another response, because I think they are legitimate concerns, and especially since you say they are your own ideas.
One correction to what I wrote, regarding the energy transfer to increasingly massive lower floors: "When the less massive upper floors collapsed down into the increasingly massive lower floors, would that reduce the kinetic energy of falling, and thus reduce the acceleration? How much would the acceleration be decreased?"
Conservation of momentum means that the total energy remains the same before and after the collision. So the increasingly massive lower floors would have more inertia which means they would be less inclined to move. So the acceleration of the falling floors is less than it would be if all the floors had the same mass, but not because of loss of kinetic energy. Rather it is because of the increase in mass.
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| -9/11 Forensic evidence to be reviewed on the History Channel, right now. nt |
patrice |
Dec-14-08 02:03 PM |
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you mean the revisionist history channel.... |
nebenaube |
Dec-14-08 02:10 PM |
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You mean the right-wing propaganda channel... |
Hissyspit |
Dec-14-08 04:02 PM |
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Got it on. Thanks! |
Rhiannon12866 |
Dec-14-08 02:28 PM |
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Don't give "Loose Change" too much credit. Most of what they present is false. |
TheWraith |
Dec-14-08 02:58 PM |
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Well, the guy who made the film was there and I was pretty impressed with him. |
Rhiannon12866 |
Dec-14-08 03:05 PM |
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Here's a good site for covering the various fictions of Loose Change. |
TheWraith |
Dec-14-08 04:46 PM |
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If you want to go deeper down that rabbit hole, check this link out: |
balantz |
Dec-14-08 02:37 PM |
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Hard to believe that there are some here who buy the Bush fairy tale about 9/11 |
Cheap_Trick |
Dec-14-08 02:53 PM |
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Most have sold out |
dlaliberte |
Dec-16-08 07:47 PM |
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No one has to discredit the work done on no plane theories |
LARED |
Dec-14-08 04:27 PM |
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Yes... that's why a CNN reporter throws his career away reporting "No Plane" ... |
defendandprotect |
Dec-14-08 11:01 PM |
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Not much is self-evident - wrong planes, not no planes |
dlaliberte |
Dec-16-08 08:40 PM |
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OMG! A honest-to-God Pod Advocate! |
boloboffin |
Dec-16-08 08:47 PM |
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OMG! An honest-to-God Obfuscator |
dlaliberte |
Dec-16-08 09:04 PM |
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"firemen reached the impact site and reported there was not much fire left to put out" |
boloboffin |
Dec-16-08 10:38 PM |
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not much fire regardless |
dlaliberte |
Dec-18-08 12:25 AM |
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basic physics |
dlaliberte |
Dec-18-08 08:51 AM |
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The falling mass of the upper section would have imparted SEVEN times the normal load capacity |
boloboffin |
Dec-18-08 01:17 PM |
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Bazant completely blows it |
dlaliberte |
Dec-19-08 12:23 AM |
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You are not quoting Ace Baker. |
boloboffin |
Dec-19-08 12:31 AM |
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I'll quote Hitler when he makes sense |
dlaliberte |
Dec-19-08 09:46 AM |
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Stupid strawman argument |
SDuderstadt |
Dec-19-08 10:18 AM |
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Don't believe me or anyone else - find out for yourself |
dlaliberte |
Dec-19-08 12:14 PM |
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A doctorate in the relevant subject matter vs. a high school diploma is NOT "based on reputation" |
boloboffin |
Dec-19-08 12:25 PM |
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But it is a STUPID quote. |
Realityhack |
Jan-05-09 10:17 AM |
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STUPID indeed |
dlaliberte |
Jan-10-09 02:14 PM |
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Simple "basic physics" question |
William Seger |
Jan-03-09 08:59 PM |
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No answer to my question? |
William Seger |
Jan-04-09 02:14 PM |
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Still no answer? Need a hint? |
William Seger |
Jan-05-09 09:44 PM |
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It's been, what, two or three years since we had a pod person |
jberryhill |
Dec-16-08 10:47 PM |
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Very interesting |
LARED |
Dec-17-08 05:42 AM |
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Dec-17-08 07:09 PM |
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ad hominem attacks will get you nowhere |
dlaliberte |
Dec-17-08 08:03 PM |
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I'll try and be nice |
LARED |
Dec-17-08 08:58 PM |
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Show me some evidence that the evidence is false |
dlaliberte |
Dec-17-08 09:33 PM |
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I found evidence - pods are questionable |
dlaliberte |
Jan-03-09 01:21 PM |
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"I particularly dislike the irrational attacks by debunkers," |
boloboffin |
Jan-03-09 01:46 PM |
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"But we WANT you to preach pod nonsense here" |
dlaliberte |
Jan-03-09 02:37 PM |
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"the more it exposes that you are trying to obscure the truth." |
boloboffin |
Jan-03-09 05:33 PM |
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"Bazant, whose arguments are fundamentally flawed,.." |
William Seger |
Jan-03-09 08:22 PM |
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Bazant is bizarre |
dlaliberte |
Jan-04-09 04:52 AM |
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JEM is bordering on journalistic and scientific fraud |
dlaliberte |
Jan-04-09 12:36 PM |
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How is the thread on the physics of 9/11 going? |
AZCat |
Jan-04-09 12:56 PM |
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LMAO! |
William Seger |
Jan-04-09 02:20 PM |
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Yeah. I imagine they ONLY published that so Bazanat could make fun of it. |
Realityhack |
Jan-05-09 10:22 AM |
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Not exactly "make fun of it", perhaps |
William Seger |
Jan-05-09 12:16 PM |
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Once again, you're late to the party... |
William Seger |
Jan-04-09 02:08 PM |
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An interesting sidenote... |
AZCat |
Jan-04-09 11:19 PM |
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Jan-05-09 11:57 PM |
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"once the tilting started, after about 2 seconds, the controller noticed and quickly demolished..." |
boloboffin |
Jan-06-09 12:11 AM |
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Maybe the controller was automated |
dlaliberte |
Jan-06-09 06:21 AM |
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Prove you wrong? |
AZCat |
Jan-06-09 09:27 AM |
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Jan-06-09 09:58 AM |
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"We" meaning me and boloboffin. |
AZCat |
Jan-06-09 10:14 AM |
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You spent several hours writing a post |
William Seger |
Jan-06-09 10:38 AM |
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You spent no time thinking about the problem for yourself |
dlaliberte |
Jan-06-09 10:55 AM |
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On the contrary, Mr. dlaliberte |
William Seger |
Jan-06-09 02:32 PM |
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You are exhibiting exactly what I am talking about |
dlaliberte |
Jan-06-09 04:15 PM |
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But that's not the sort of answer he's seeking. |
AZCat |
Jan-06-09 11:28 AM |
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Jan-07-09 12:32 AM |
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Clarification regarding more massive lower floors |
dlaliberte |
Jan-07-09 09:07 AM |
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What?! |
AZCat |
Jan-07-09 05:44 PM |
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Was your missreading deliberate? |
dlaliberte |
Jan-08-09 01:45 AM |
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You seem to think WE are responsible for the deletion of your messages. |
AZCat |
Jan-08-09 08:55 AM |
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Does the moderator go looking for things to delete, or wait for reports of 'abuse'? |
dlaliberte |
Jan-08-09 10:20 AM |
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I don't know - why don't you ask them? |
AZCat |
Jan-08-09 12:04 PM |
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Jeez, first.... |
William Seger |
Jan-07-09 10:46 AM |
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please take your time |
dlaliberte |
Jan-07-09 11:17 AM |
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Do you quote G W Bush when he makes sense? nt |
greyl |
Jan-07-09 07:14 PM |
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"You cannot lead if you send mexed missages" |
dlaliberte |
Jan-08-09 04:55 AM |
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So, no you don't, eh? Just Hitler? |
greyl |
Jan-08-09 09:15 AM |
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Update before replying |
dlaliberte |
Jan-08-09 10:07 AM |
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Deleted again? |
William Seger |
Jan-08-09 11:01 AM |
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Delayed deletion. Does anyone really think my message was offensive? |
dlaliberte |
Jan-08-09 01:45 PM |
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"It vanished into thin error (we agree this did not happen)" |
dlaliberte |
Jan-08-09 03:08 PM |
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Think about it some more |
William Seger |
Jan-08-09 07:49 PM |
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Heavy thoughts, massive coverup |
dlaliberte |
Jan-09-09 01:35 AM |
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WTC debris distribution |
dlaliberte |
Jan-10-09 08:55 AM |
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We're not getting anywhere |
William Seger |
Jan-10-09 09:56 AM |
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a lot of the debris spreading happened after it hit the ground?? |
dlaliberte |
Jan-10-09 11:31 AM |
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The game of "answer the basic physics question" |
dlaliberte |
Jan-10-09 02:31 PM |
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I can hardly wait |
William Seger |
Jan-10-09 03:27 PM |
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"path of maximum resistance" ?? |
dlaliberte |
Jan-10-09 03:40 PM |
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Isn't that what you claimed in one of the deleted messages? |
William Seger |
Jan-10-09 04:01 PM |
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Path of greatest resistance to rational thinking |
dlaliberte |
Jan-10-09 08:41 PM |
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What are you asking? |
William Seger |
Jan-10-09 10:38 PM |
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Attacking an idea is not ad hominem at all. |
greyl |
Dec-18-08 12:57 AM |
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"your pod is showing" |
dlaliberte |
Dec-18-08 09:13 AM |
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"holding up a mirror so people can hopefully see what they are doing." |
boloboffin |
Dec-18-08 01:18 PM |
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Did you get the watering can I sent for Christmas? |
MrMickeysMom |
Jan-05-09 10:55 PM |
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Please stop these silly games. n/t |
boloboffin |
Jan-05-09 11:20 PM |
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We mostly xeriscape around here. |
AZCat |
Jan-05-09 11:52 PM |
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Jan-06-09 07:50 PM |
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Thank you ...!! |
defendandprotect |
Dec-14-08 10:57 PM |
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Now owned by Clear Channel -- and all truth telling destroyed --- |
defendandprotect |
Dec-14-08 10:52 PM |
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Accessory after the fact to mass murder! |
aldo |
Dec-18-08 02:35 PM |
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What in hades is going on here? |
boloboffin |
Dec-19-08 12:36 AM |
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Jan-03-09 10:38 PM |
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Jan-05-09 10:54 PM |
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The fucking History channel had... |
wildbilln864 |
Jan-07-09 09:54 AM |
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This may be the first time I agree with you. |
Realityhack |
Jan-10-09 03:50 PM |
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