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11. A little bit of exterior damage? *That* caused the collapse?

Your point was??

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  -Tell me again how damaging ONE TRUSS could have brought down WTC 7 Ghost in the Machine  Jul-15-08 12:35 PM   #0 
  - That truss was incredibly strong, see.  petgoat   Jul-15-08 04:46 PM   #1 
  - Now, why didn't I think of that??  Ghost in the Machine   Jul-15-08 07:31 PM   #6 
  - magic truss  number6   Jul-19-08 10:21 PM   #63 
  - sorry can't do it  seemslikeadream   Jul-15-08 04:52 PM   #2 
  - No one can... in a way that makes sense, anyways..  Ghost in the Machine   Jul-15-08 07:32 PM   #7 
  - Do you think that perhaps they used temporary bracing  hack89   Jul-15-08 04:58 PM   #3 
  - Would they *need* temporary bracing if it was "designed" for portions of the floor to be removed?  Ghost in the Machine   Jul-15-08 07:38 PM   #8 
     - Much more than normal to fail?  greyl   Jul-15-08 07:45 PM   #10 
     - A little bit of exterior damage? *That* caused the collapse?  Ghost in the Machine   Jul-15-08 08:30 PM   #11 
     - You do understand there is a difference between the  LARED   Jul-15-08 08:42 PM   #12 
     - Yes.. one had catastrophic damage and didn't collapse... the other had superficial exterior damage  Ghost in the Machine   Jul-16-08 02:05 PM   #20 
        - I think we can conclude from the comparison that explosives have negligible structural effect  petgoat   Jul-16-08 02:24 PM   #24 
           - Absolutely BRILLIANT!  Ghost in the Machine   Jul-16-08 03:52 PM   #28 
           - Explosions don't cause sagging.  Bassman66   Jul-16-08 04:01 PM   #29 
           - Don't you think that different designs and construction materials had something to do with it?  hack89   Jul-16-08 04:57 PM   #32 
              - I expect different performance of reinforced concrete relative to steel  petgoat   Jul-16-08 05:16 PM   #33 
                 - Impossible to argue with that logic. nt  hack89   Jul-16-08 05:43 PM   #34 
                 - ROTFLOL... Petgoat you are always good for a laugh. n/t  Realityhack   Jul-18-08 12:05 PM   #56 
     - Totaly dishonest.  Realityhack   Jul-18-08 12:03 PM   #55 
     - I think that vertical gash is a video artifact from a panning video camera.  petgoat   Jul-15-08 10:40 PM   #14 
     - Very funny. This picture doesn't show any tires.  greyl   Jul-15-08 11:44 PM   #15 
        - What's your point? My picture shows the same region as the alleged gouge--no damage. nt  petgoat   Jul-16-08 01:47 AM   #17 
           - Funnier still.  greyl   Jul-16-08 11:17 PM   #42 
              - Do you have any reason to trust that your image wasn't altered? nt  petgoat   Jul-16-08 11:47 PM   #44 
                 - My image? I'm the one who altered it.  greyl   Jul-17-08 12:56 AM   #45 
                    - That you altered it does not mean it was unaltered before you altered it. nt  petgoat   Jul-17-08 03:50 PM   #47 
     - Is Composite the new name for Photoshop?  Bassman66   Jul-16-08 01:53 AM   #18 
        - Fireworks was used for that one to aid the perception of those who might need it.  greyl   Jul-16-08 11:21 PM   #43 
           - The strange thing is....  Bassman66   Jul-17-08 01:40 AM   #46 
           - notice how....  wildbilln864   Feb-26-10 09:42 PM   #78 
     - The floors were non-load bearing  hack89   Jul-15-08 09:29 PM   #13 
     - see post #11  Ghost in the Machine   Jul-16-08 02:08 PM   #21 
        - Your picture shows a reinforced concrete building  hack89   Jul-16-08 04:45 PM   #31 
     - It seems to me....  jberryhill   Jul-15-08 11:55 PM   #16 
        - It would be interesting to know exactly where this "building with a building" was erected..  Ghost in the Machine   Jul-16-08 02:11 PM   #22 
           - Yes it would  jberryhill   Jul-16-08 04:31 PM   #30 
           - And that information is part of the NIST reports.  Realityhack   Jul-19-08 01:40 PM   #59 
  - Putting aside the fact that there is no relation between  LARED   Jul-15-08 07:20 PM   #4 
  - Nice misleading post, LARED... why didn't you include this with your reply??  Ghost in the Machine   Jul-15-08 07:29 PM   #5 
  - I only included a link in my post  LARED   Jul-15-08 07:44 PM   #9 
     - I agree with you on one thing...  Ghost in the Machine   Jul-16-08 02:18 PM   #23 
        - Have you noticed how lame the OCTabots are getting? They're demoralized.  petgoat   Jul-16-08 02:25 PM   #25 
        - You're right, they seem to be less enthusiastic lately.  Bassman66   Jul-16-08 02:51 PM   #26 
        - There is nothing new  hack89   Jul-16-08 05:45 PM   #35 
           - Yet, you and certain others seem to make it ...  wildbilln864   Jul-17-08 05:18 PM   #48 
              - There are many things that you don't understand - just sayin. nt  hack89   Jul-17-08 05:29 PM   #49 
                 - And there are many things I do! nt  wildbilln864   Jul-17-08 06:03 PM   #50 
                    - I have no doubt. ny  hack89   Jul-17-08 07:38 PM   #51 
                       - There are new things. NIST has admitted that structural damage and diesel fuel had nothing to do  petgoat   Jul-17-08 09:28 PM   #52 
                          - Ok -if you say so. nt  hack89   Jul-18-08 06:12 AM   #53 
        - It's fun to watch some of the self implosions of some of these guys...  Ghost in the Machine   Jul-16-08 03:49 PM   #27 
           - You're kidding, right?  hack89   Jul-16-08 05:47 PM   #36 
              - Do *you* ever get out and talk to people in real life?  Ghost in the Machine   Jul-16-08 06:02 PM   #37 
                 - Yes - I am a political activist  hack89   Jul-16-08 06:14 PM   #38 
                    - Close your eyes....  wildbilln864   Jul-16-08 06:37 PM   #39 
        - It's completely pointless to discuss this issue with you  LARED   Jul-16-08 07:23 PM   #40 
        - Please point out any "discussion" you *ever* had here.... your normal MO is basic nuisance -  Ghost in the Machine   Jul-16-08 10:27 PM   #41 
        - "Bridges are designed with the thought that traffic flows across them,,, constantly moving..."  Realityhack   Jul-19-08 01:45 PM   #60 
  - There's no comparson between a highly redundant high-rise structure  petgoat   Jul-16-08 11:58 AM   #19 
  - Please do some research.  Realityhack   Jul-18-08 12:00 PM   #54 
  - Their current theory is not well documented at all.  petgoat   Jul-18-08 03:07 PM   #57 
     - Yet another thing that is too long for you to read?  Realityhack   Jul-19-08 01:38 PM   #58 
  - Ghost - Have you read the NIST info yet? n/t  Realityhack   Jul-19-08 04:30 PM   #61 
  - Ah here it is....  jberryhill   Jul-19-08 06:13 PM   #62 
  - Not a structural engineer, are you?  Redstone   Jul-22-08 04:31 PM   #64 
  - Are you prepared to offer a structural engineer's argument  petgoat   Jul-22-08 05:35 PM   #65 
     - Why do you assert that structural damage was not an issue? nt  hack89   Jul-22-08 08:41 PM   #66 
     - I think he is doing so because NIST doesn't think it was relevent....  Realityhack   Jul-25-08 07:24 PM   #75 
        - spin it Hack!!  Twist_U_Up   Feb-27-10 04:04 PM   #83 
     - Nah. I don't need to offer any "structural engineer's arguments" unless some  Redstone   Jul-22-08 08:56 PM   #67 
     - Petgoat you know perfectly well that NIST has a fairly good hypothisis as to how that happened...  Realityhack   Jul-23-08 07:22 AM   #68 
     - NIST's current hypothesis is absurd.  petgoat   Jul-23-08 11:59 AM   #69 
     - Did you have some kind of point in there?  Realityhack   Jul-25-08 07:38 PM   #76 
     - " NIST has a fairly good hypothisis as to how that happened" LOL which time?  Twist_U_Up   Feb-27-10 04:09 PM   #84 
     - Nobody's going to refute your stupid strawman. n/t  AZCat   Jul-24-08 10:23 PM   #70 
        - It's not straw at all. Do you dispute the fact that WTC7 came down  petgoat   Jul-25-08 01:41 AM   #71 
           - Deleted message  Name removed   Jul-25-08 03:38 PM   #73 
           - AZ Cat. Nice to see you drop by. n/t  Realityhack   Jul-25-08 11:35 PM   #77 
           - what a fucking vicious reply  Twist_U_Up   Feb-27-10 04:32 PM   #85 
              - aight mods. thanks  Twist_U_Up   Feb-28-10 05:31 AM   #86 
                 - Yes, because deleting a 1.5-year-old post...  AZCat   Feb-28-10 12:52 PM   #88 
                 - LOLOLOLOL  SDuderstadt   Feb-28-10 01:57 PM   #89 
           - Yes I dispute one of those.  Realityhack   Jul-25-08 07:20 PM   #74 
           - show the WHOLE video of the collapse starting with the PH  backwoodsbob   Feb-27-10 08:35 AM   #79 
              - so post the whole video then...  wildbilln864   Feb-27-10 11:26 AM   #80 
  - I finally figured this out...  jberryhill   Jul-25-08 02:42 AM   #72 
  - spitting in the face of the victims family members as usual  Twist_U_Up   Feb-27-10 04:03 PM   #82 
  - Show me 1 pic of trusses or floor pans in the collapse. Miles of them disappeared  Twist_U_Up   Feb-27-10 03:53 PM   #81 
     - If they disappeared, where did they go? nt  LARED   Feb-28-10 06:52 AM   #87 

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