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Wed Sep-29-04 07:47 PM Response to Reply #96 |
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Edited on Wed Sep-29-04 07:54 PM by Robb
Here's how it was explained to me: no one (nearly) disputes 93 hit the ground that day. We know exactly where it hit. All regular (not even "forensic") seismologists had to do was look for a significant event at that exact point on the earth during the morning, which with several station measuring in three dimensions wasn't too tough to do. There was just the one.
Seismographs don't just measure "in the area"; the reason they measure in three directions is precisely to determine epicenters. The only other possibility was that something else moved the earth at that exact spot around 10 that morning.  On edit: Hurm.... obviously I didn't intend to reply to myself. |
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| -Flight 93: crash time cannot be true | John Doe II | Sep-25-04 10:45 AM | #0 |
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I don't believe the official story |
sffreeways | Sep-25-04 11:16 AM | #1 |
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Just one thing about the time differences you mention |
beyurslf | Sep-25-04 11:46 AM | #2 |
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Not that easy |
John Doe II | Sep-25-04 11:52 AM | #3 |
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Is Deena Burnett telling the truth? |
seatnineb | Sep-25-04 12:56 PM | #4 |
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Children typically start school at 5 in the States. |
MercutioATC | Sep-25-04 01:03 PM | #6 |
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"the children wanted" |
RH | Sep-25-04 05:05 PM | #8 |
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Why is glick talking on the phone while the cockpit was being stormed |
MercutioATC | Sep-25-04 01:01 PM | #5 |
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My impression |
k-robjoe | Sep-25-04 03:27 PM | #7 |
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Putting it very mildly |
k-robjoe | Sep-25-04 05:51 PM | #9 |
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Just a small addition |
John Doe II | Sep-26-04 03:46 AM | #13 |
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Jeremy Glick |
John Doe II | Sep-26-04 04:08 AM | #15 |
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An idea based on what? |
RH | Sep-27-04 09:08 PM | #63 |
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Why don't we just synchronize all the evidence like they would in any NTSB |
stickdog | Sep-25-04 11:47 PM | #11 |
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THAT I completely agree with. |
MercutioATC | Sep-26-04 03:12 AM | #12 |
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Nobody is saying it's MIHOP or LIHOP |
John Doe II | Sep-26-04 04:07 AM | #14 |
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What, specifically, doesn't add up? |
MercutioATC | Sep-26-04 04:12 AM | #16 |
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Excuse me, where did you answer? |
John Doe II | Sep-26-04 04:16 AM | #17 |
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Again, we're talking about a difference of two minutes. |
MercutioATC | Sep-26-04 04:23 AM | #18 |
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A lie is a lie |
John Doe II | Sep-26-04 04:26 AM | #19 |
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We ARE jumping around. Wanna just do this in the Glick thread? |
MercutioATC | Sep-26-04 04:27 AM | #20 |
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Ok |
John Doe II | Sep-26-04 04:31 AM | #21 |
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Evidence is evidence |
RH | Sep-26-04 12:30 PM | #22 |
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All you ask for is there |
John Doe II | Sep-26-04 12:52 PM | #23 |
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Why is the seismic data the "truth" when ALL of the other evidence |
MercutioATC | Sep-26-04 10:37 PM | #24 |
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Ummm, what is your explanation? Is the Earth part of a massive conspiracy? |
stickdog | Sep-27-04 02:22 AM | #25 |
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When did UAL93 crash? |
MercutioATC | Sep-27-04 04:58 AM | #27 |
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Can you please answer the question! |
John Doe II | Sep-27-04 05:35 AM | #31 |
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See the Glick thread |
MercutioATC | Sep-28-04 06:16 AM | #65 |
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You COMPLETELY avoided the question. So let's try again. |
stickdog | Sep-27-04 03:50 PM | #54 |
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See the Glick thread |
MercutioATC | Sep-28-04 06:16 AM | #64 |
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I have seen it. But I've seen no answer. (nt) |
stickdog | Sep-28-04 01:39 PM | #69 |
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Look again |
MercutioATC | Sep-28-04 09:11 PM | #76 |
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Looked there found nothing |
John Doe II | Sep-29-04 02:50 AM | #79 |
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Here: |
MercutioATC | Sep-29-04 05:43 AM | #89 |
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Here: |
MercutioATC | Sep-29-04 05:43 AM | #90 |
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Do you know what "incontrovertible" means? |
RH | Sep-28-04 12:18 PM | #66 |
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incontrovertible = impossible to deny or disprove |
stickdog | Sep-28-04 01:38 PM | #68 |
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Presumably by demonstrating |
RH | Sep-28-04 03:31 PM | #72 |
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How do seismologists determine the epicenter of earthquakes? |
stickdog | Sep-28-04 06:12 PM | #75 |
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The spike |
The Straight Story | Oct-01-04 08:55 PM | #145 |
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It was detected at multiple sites. |
stickdog | Oct-02-04 02:34 AM | #147 |
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The link is impertient |
RH | Oct-02-04 07:47 AM | #153 |
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Heya Thumb-biter... |
Robb | Sep-28-04 11:16 PM | #77 |
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It always feels good to read intelligent stuff! |
John Doe II | Sep-29-04 02:48 AM | #78 |
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Stone cold certain or "less certain" now? |
RH | Sep-29-04 03:59 AM | #83 |
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I don't understand |
Robb | Sep-29-04 07:37 AM | #94 |
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This may help. |
RH | Sep-29-04 09:11 AM | #96 |
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I get where you're going |
Robb | Sep-29-04 07:47 PM | #107 |
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1) Get the data. 2) Examine the data. 3) Determine the data are |
stickdog | Sep-30-04 07:51 AM | #116 |
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Removing my head |
RH | Sep-30-04 11:25 AM | #123 |
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You can't be serious. Was metal debris from the Pentagon crash found |
stickdog | Sep-30-04 03:12 PM | #128 |
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This sounds logical and convincing to me. |
John Doe II | Sep-30-04 03:24 PM | #130 |
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The energy required |
RH | Sep-30-04 04:11 PM | #132 |
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Good observations |
Robb | Sep-30-04 04:21 PM | #134 |
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What does a softball do at 500 mph? |
RH | Sep-30-04 05:06 PM | #135 |
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Excuse me |
John Doe II | Oct-01-04 02:35 AM | #138 |
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I have no doubt |
RH | Oct-01-04 05:23 AM | #139 |
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Your reply is IGNORANT. Read the studies. Learn something about |
stickdog | Oct-02-04 02:28 AM | #146 |
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Thanks for the clarification, Robb :) |
MercutioATC | Sep-29-04 07:29 PM | #106 |
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Other than the LDEO one, no |
Robb | Sep-29-04 07:53 PM | #108 |
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Thanks! Like I said, I really know nothing about the subject. |
MercutioATC | Sep-29-04 09:45 PM | #111 |
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Pretty sure it's here: |
Robb | Sep-30-04 07:53 AM | #117 |
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Sure the intervening terrain can make a difference. |
stickdog | Sep-30-04 10:04 AM | #118 |
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I wasn't saying the the terrain made a 3-minute difference, I was asking |
MercutioATC | Sep-30-04 06:03 PM | #136 |
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There is surely no doubt |
RH | Oct-01-04 05:36 AM | #140 |
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You're right, pure conjecture |
Robb | Oct-01-04 12:51 PM | #141 |
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No need to be so silly. |
RH | Oct-01-04 01:44 PM | #142 |
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Well, by that rationale |
Robb | Oct-01-04 03:35 PM | #143 |
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I dont see it. |
RH | Oct-01-04 06:21 PM | #144 |
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Yes. It's all an electrical disturbance. Or not. |
stickdog | Oct-02-04 02:40 AM | #149 |
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You professed to wish to encourage everybody |
RH | Oct-02-04 07:58 AM | #155 |
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That is an open question. Wallace says it's a plane crash in his judgment. |
stickdog | Oct-02-04 02:36 AM | #148 |
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Maybe that could explain it. |
RH | Sep-29-04 08:44 PM | #110 |
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Sure. There was nothing from the initial 580 mph crash. |
stickdog | Oct-02-04 02:51 AM | #150 |
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"Nothing" is not exactly the problem. |
RH | Oct-02-04 07:37 AM | #152 |
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"incontrovertible scientific evidence"? |
RH | Sep-27-04 05:24 AM | #29 |
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What? You guys are unbelievable. If you don't like the scientific evidence |
stickdog | Sep-27-04 03:55 PM | #56 |
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incontrovertible = impossible to deny or disprove |
stickdog | Sep-28-04 01:34 PM | #67 |
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Why not a conspiracy? |
RH | Sep-27-04 05:38 AM | #32 |
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Substantial? |
John Doe II | Sep-27-04 05:51 AM | #33 |
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Yes. ... Substantial |
RH | Sep-27-04 09:31 AM | #34 |
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What's new? |
John Doe II | Sep-27-04 09:52 AM | #35 |
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Wrong versions |
RH | Sep-27-04 10:12 AM | #38 |
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Thanks |
John Doe II | Sep-27-04 10:17 AM | #39 |
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That's right. |
RH | Sep-27-04 10:22 AM | #41 |
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Lucky you |
John Doe II | Sep-27-04 11:40 AM | #43 |
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Deleted message |
Name removed | Sep-27-04 03:58 PM | #57 |
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"The other evidence" |
John Doe II | Sep-27-04 02:29 AM | #26 |
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I see no reason. ....Why? |
RH | Sep-27-04 05:14 AM | #28 |
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Can you please answer the question! |
John Doe II | Sep-27-04 05:33 AM | #30 |
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The official timeline does not depend upon Glick. |
RH | Sep-27-04 10:06 AM | #36 |
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Oh, my God |
John Doe II | Sep-27-04 10:11 AM | #37 |
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Can you please answer the question! |
RH | Sep-27-04 10:18 AM | #40 |
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Highly unlikely |
John Doe II | Sep-27-04 10:32 AM | #42 |
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You are on the ropes! |
seatnineb | Sep-27-04 12:22 PM | #45 |
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Yes, that's the point. Either Glick's family & the FBI are lying |
stickdog | Sep-27-04 04:02 PM | #58 |
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Fine points Stickdog. |
seatnineb | Sep-27-04 04:38 PM | #61 |
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Keep defending the indefensible ron |
seatnineb | Sep-27-04 12:16 PM | #44 |
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Thanks for the source! |
John Doe II | Sep-27-04 12:23 PM | #46 |
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No worries mate! |
seatnineb | Sep-27-04 12:30 PM | #47 |
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A tape and a transcript |
John Doe II | Sep-27-04 12:33 PM | #48 |
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and you have heard the tape |
RH | Sep-27-04 12:55 PM | #50 |
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..... |
John Doe II | Sep-27-04 12:58 PM | #51 |
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I asked why |
RH | Sep-27-04 01:03 PM | #52 |
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Once and for all |
John Doe II | Sep-27-04 01:10 PM | #53 |
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I was not aware of any obligation |
RH | Sep-27-04 09:03 PM | #62 |
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Deleted message |
Name removed | Sep-28-04 01:43 PM | #70 |
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Huh.....? |
RH | Sep-27-04 12:54 PM | #49 |
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You´re pulling our legs now |
k-robjoe | Sep-27-04 03:51 PM | #55 |
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Yo K-Robjoe! |
seatnineb | Sep-27-04 04:08 PM | #60 |
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When all else fails, play dumb. (nt) |
stickdog | Sep-27-04 04:06 PM | #59 |
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Yeah, seismograph clocks and air traffic control clocks and the timing of |
stickdog | Sep-25-04 11:38 PM | #10 |
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Summary |
John Doe II | Sep-28-04 02:27 PM | #71 |
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45 seconds or several minutes? |
seatnineb | Sep-28-04 05:52 PM | #73 |
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Richard Makely |
John Doe II | Sep-28-04 06:08 PM | #74 |
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Maybe |
RH | Sep-29-04 04:04 AM | #84 |
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Sure |
John Doe II | Sep-29-04 04:25 AM | #86 |
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A cry is not a scream. |
RH | Sep-29-04 05:05 AM | #87 |
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Yes, it's all speculation |
John Doe II | Sep-29-04 05:23 AM | #88 |
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Screams would probably occur |
RH | Sep-29-04 05:48 AM | #91 |
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Logic |
John Doe II | Sep-29-04 06:09 AM | #92 |
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If ABSOLUTELY nothing was heard |
RH | Sep-29-04 07:34 AM | #93 |
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Interrupted |
John Doe II | Sep-29-04 07:42 AM | #95 |
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background noise. |
RH | Sep-29-04 09:22 AM | #97 |
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GTE airfone |
John Doe II | Sep-29-04 09:30 AM | #98 |
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A silence is a connection problem. |
RH | Sep-29-04 09:50 AM | #99 |
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Wake me up please! |
John Doe II | Sep-29-04 10:07 AM | #100 |
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You've conceded the point then. |
RH | Sep-29-04 10:12 AM | #101 |
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Yes, sure |
John Doe II | Sep-29-04 10:20 AM | #102 |
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It is a not a question of explaining. |
RH | Sep-29-04 11:35 AM | #103 |
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Everything is said |
John Doe II | Sep-29-04 11:42 AM | #104 |
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Rolling lies. |
seatnineb | Sep-29-04 04:46 PM | #105 |
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Great find! |
John Doe II | Sep-30-04 02:47 AM | #112 |
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And there is is still more |
John Doe II | Sep-30-04 05:46 AM | #113 |
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then all of a sudden all contradictions are solved? |
RH | Sep-30-04 07:18 AM | #114 |
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Yes |
John Doe II | Sep-30-04 07:36 AM | #115 |
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How was it possible to keep the Manhattan Project a secret? |
stickdog | Sep-30-04 10:38 AM | #120 |
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If it was kept a secret, |
RH | Sep-30-04 11:29 AM | #124 |
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Funny |
John Doe II | Sep-30-04 11:53 AM | #126 |
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The same applies. |
RH | Sep-30-04 02:34 PM | #127 |
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Well, you've convinced me! |
stickdog | Oct-02-04 03:04 AM | #151 |
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Logically |
RH | Oct-02-04 07:54 AM | #154 |
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If you have a clue, where oh where could it be? |
stickdog | Sep-30-04 03:15 PM | #129 |
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Miles away from proving anybody lied? Using your judgment, nobody |
stickdog | Sep-30-04 10:21 AM | #119 |
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I had already specified the criteria. |
RH | Sep-30-04 11:23 AM | #122 |
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Jeremia sees all. |
seatnineb | Sep-30-04 06:09 PM | #137 |
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Thanks, seatnineb |
John Doe II | Sep-29-04 03:00 AM | #81 |
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How to do Hyperlinks |
John Doe II | Sep-29-04 02:53 AM | #80 |
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Summary with sources |
John Doe II | Sep-29-04 03:15 AM | #82 |
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Serious Question: |
RH | Sep-29-04 04:10 AM | #85 |
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Good question |
Robb | Sep-29-04 08:03 PM | #109 |
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I did. I was looking for anomalies. Instead I found about what you would |
stickdog | Sep-30-04 10:53 AM | #121 |
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Why motivations and personalities? |
RH | Sep-30-04 11:38 AM | #125 |
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What "good effect" are you expecting from constant negative repetition? |
stickdog | Sep-30-04 03:28 PM | #131 |
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"Constant negative repetition"? |
RH | Sep-30-04 04:19 PM | #133 |
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Third summary |
John Doe II | Oct-05-04 06:11 AM | #156 |
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