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125. Dorothy Kilgallen
This might be the most obvious one. Given Kilgallen's physical resemblance to Palfrey and the threat posed to the powers that be:

"Dorthy Kilgallen was of course murdered "

YouTube - What's My Line ? After death of Dorothy Kilgallen Part 1

During her 35-year career as a gossip columnist, crime reporter and panelist on the weekly TV game show, "What's My Line?," Dorothy Kilgallen ("Dolly Mae" to her friends), was a fearless journalist who broke major stories, and was the only reporter to interview Lee Harvey Oswald's killer, Jack Ruby. Her biggest case yet -- investigating President John F. Kennedy's assassination, and finding fault with the official story -- became the last one she ever pursued. She died mysteriously in November 1965, after being threatened, but the cops never probed further. Thanks to reruns on the Game Show Network, fans are still talking about Dorothy, including Larry King of CNN, and Dominick Dunne, who wrote about her in Vanity Fair. Now, shocking new information has emerged.

As a formidable crime reporter, Kilgallen immediately started asking tough questions of the authorities. She had a good contact within the Dallas Police Department, who gave her a copy of the original police log that chronicled the minute-by-minute activities of the department on the day of the assassination, as shown in the radio communications. This allowed her to report that the first reaction of Chief Jesse Curry to the shots in Dealey Plaza was: "Get a man on top of the overpass and see what happened up there." Kilgallen noted that he lied when he told reporters the next day that he initially thought the shots were fired from the Texas School Book Depository.

Dorothy challenged the credibility of Howard Brennan (who supposedly gave police a description of the shooter). She wrote articles about how important witnesses had been intimidated by the Dallas police or FBI.

In the midst of her aggressive reportage on the Kennedy case, Dorothy met a man who was to intrigue her the last months of her life. He helped her on some of her JFK stories but ultimately was to come under suspicion by amateur sleuths as having been involved in her death. Questions about him were raised by Lee Israel, who wrote the 1979 biography "Kilgallen." She never printed his name, and referred to him only obliquely as "the Out-of-Towner." But he is Ron Pataky, and he was interviewed by Midwest Today publisher Larry Jordan...

On Sept. 25, 1964, Kilgallen ran an interview with Acquilla Clemons, one of the witnesses to the shooting of Officer Tippit whom the Warren Commission never questioned. Clemons told Kilgallen that she saw two men running from the scene, neither of whom fit Oswald's description.

Dorothy also approached one of Jack Ruby's lawyers, Joe Tonahill. Surprisingly, Ruby (who fatally shot Lee Harvey Oswald, who was suspected of assassinating John Kennedy) agreed to talk with her. Some have speculated that Ruby would not have told her anything important, but Tonahill strongly disagrees. "This interview with her was a very significant point in his classless life," Tonahill asserts. He affirmed that Ruby "cooperated with her in every way that he could, and told her the truth as he understood it. It was just a very agreeable conversation between them. I just can't understand people doubting the sincerity of that interview."

The attorney, who observed the two talking, said that "I don't think there was any doubt about it... Jack was highly impressed with Dorothy Kilgallen... Of all the writers that were down there during the Ruby trial -- about 400 from all over the world -- she probably was the one that, to him, was the most significant."

Kilgallen never published any information she obtained from her private talk with Jack Ruby, but Ron Pataky says that's because she was "saving it for a book." She was under contract to Random House, Bennett Cerf's company, to produce a tome that was supposedly going to be a collection of stories about the famous murder trials she had covered. Instead, says Ron, "It would have been on JFK, the entire assassination. That's what we were really working on. Of course. Who better to write it? When she got into the JFK thing, as we all know, the world went crazy. But given her background, given the people she spoke with, don't you think the obvious thing would be that that would be THE book?"

One of the biggest scoops of Kilgallen's career came when she obtained the 102-page transcript of Ruby's testimony to the Warren Commission. Readers were shocked at the hopelessly inept questioning of Ruby by Chief Justice Warren, and by Warren's failure to follow up on the leads Ruby was feeding him. Attorney Melvin Belli called Dorothy's scoop "the ruin of the Warren Commission." Incidentally, John Daly, moderator of "What's My Line?", was married to Chief Justice Warren's daughter, Virginia...

Three days after Dorothy died, Bob and Jean Bach invited her widower Richard Kollmar over for dinner. Bob then asked him, "Dick, what was all that stuff in the folder Dorothy carried around with her about the assassination?" Richard replied, "Robert, I'm afraid that will have to go to the grave with me."

At the funeral, Dorothy's bereaved mother, Mae, angrily confronted Dick Kollmar. Pointing a finger at him, she said, "You killed my daughter, and I will prove it." But Marc Sinclaire said, "I don't think he could have done it. I think more than one person was involved in Dorothy's death."

On January 7, 1971, Richard Kollmar was found dead in bed of a drug overdose, just like Dorothy. David Susskind's widow, Joyce, described Dick as "this guy who was always in his cups. He had the looks, he had the intelligence to do something with his life if he had not had this alcoholic cross to bear."

In 1975, the FBI contacted Dorothy's son, Dickie, still trying to locate his mother's papers. Her JFK notes were never found..

Dick Kollmar told inconsistent stories to the police. In one version, he claimed that Dorothy had returned from "What's My Line?" at 11:30 p.m. "feeling chipper," that she "went in to write column," that he had said goodnight and then gone to bed.

Dorothy's inquiry into Jack Ruby's ties to the mob, and her relentless exploration of the Warren Report's gross inadequacies, threatened to expose dark secrets that powerful people both in and out of government did not want revealed. Documents obtained under the Freedom of Information Act confirm that the FBI perceived her exposs as enough of a threat that they monitored her closely.

Incredibly, the CIA had 53 field offices around the world watching her on her foreign travels. Given this context, it is hard to see her untimely death as a mere accident.

There is no statute of limitations on murder, and there are enough people alive who could be questioned. But will there be enough interest by the powers that be to pursue this? As Dorothy once reflected, "Justice is a big rug. When you pull it out from under one person, a lot of others fall, too." Justice needs to be done in this case.

What's My Line ? Milton Berle Panelist 10/17/65 Part 1
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  -List of Suicides by whistle blowers or those that knew things Ichingcarpenter  May-01-08 01:13 PM   #0 
  - lots of self-inflicted gunshot wounds around  PDJane   May-01-08 01:14 PM   #1 
  - Gary Webb, suicide by two gunshot wounds to the head. Yeah, right!!  L. Coyote   May-02-08 09:31 AM   #141 
     - That was one I was thinking of.....  PDJane   May-02-08 09:53 AM   #147 
  - Cliff Baxter  seemslikeadream   May-01-08 01:15 PM   #2 
  - Enron's - Clifford Baxter Is A Good One  Median Democrat   May-01-08 01:25 PM   #11 
     - added n/t  Ichingcarpenter   May-01-08 01:27 PM   #15 
     - Who uses rat shot to off themselves?  rambler_american   May-02-08 05:47 AM   #122 
     - Especially when you have a local diddley-wink doing the autopsy,  The Backlash Cometh   May-02-08 07:54 AM   #129 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   May-02-08 10:33 AM   #150 
     - Interesting observation about the quick conclusions of  lazyriver   May-02-08 07:22 AM   #126 
        - I've noticed it too. I don't have the time to do it, but I'd love to see that confirmed...  Pacifist Patriot   May-02-08 09:43 AM   #144 
  - All just happy coincidences I tellzya!  Dr Fate   May-01-08 01:16 PM   #3 
  - K&R  havocmom   May-01-08 01:16 PM   #4 
  - All the Brits From the Downing Street Memos and Other Iraq Nonsense  Demeter   May-01-08 01:17 PM   #5 
  - Can you add that name to the list?  Ichingcarpenter   May-01-08 01:20 PM   #8 
  - I will maintain to the day I die that Paul Wellstone was murdered nt  Seen the light   May-01-08 01:18 PM   #6 
  - me too  seemslikeadream   May-01-08 01:23 PM   #9 
  - Me too, but I'm only doing suicides n/t  Ichingcarpenter   May-01-08 01:35 PM   #21 
  - yeah, small plane crashes is a whoooooole nother thread.  mopinko   May-01-08 10:26 PM   #96 
     - Anybody have a list  rambler_american   May-02-08 05:50 AM   #123 
  - I would include Missouri Gov. Mel Carnahan in that list  liberal N proud   May-02-08 08:33 AM   #134 
     - Hale Boggs questioned Warren Comm. = Died in plane crash in Alaska  L. Coyote   May-02-08 09:37 AM   #142 
        - Boggs called for resignation of J. Edgar Hoover, reopening Warren Commission.  L. Coyote   May-02-08 09:42 AM   #143 
           - Boggs Tells House of Tap on Phone  L. Coyote   May-02-08 10:07 AM   #149 
  - So will I. Wellstone was the one thing cheney*/bush* morbidly feared...  Raster   May-01-08 06:19 PM   #79 
  - i thought that was common knowledge  barbtries   May-02-08 05:10 AM   #118 
  - Agreed  Echo In Light   May-02-08 05:25 AM   #119 
  - Of course and he's simply another in our long history of political assassinations ---  defendandprotect   May-02-08 12:01 PM   #162 
  - Apparently Gary Webb committed suicide by shooting him self in the head twice.  Uncle Joe   May-01-08 01:18 PM   #7 
  - Don't forget James Hatfield. NT  EOTE   May-01-08 01:24 PM   #10 
  - added n/t  Ichingcarpenter   May-01-08 01:27 PM   #13 
  - And David Kelly NT  EOTE   May-01-08 01:27 PM   #14 
     - and Ivins  bambino   Nov-21-08 07:58 PM   #262 
  - It might be very interesting if the DC madam had made a list...  spin   May-01-08 01:26 PM   #12 
  - She was too smart not to -  NCevilDUer   May-01-08 01:32 PM   #18 
  - Unfortunately you're probably right (nt)  spin   May-01-08 02:24 PM   #41 
  - I had kind of figured ''they'' had found it prior to ''suiciding'' her  HillbillyBob   Oct-31-08 02:10 PM   #261 
  - They interviewed her British biographer on CNN yesterday...  AntiFascist   May-02-08 11:50 AM   #156 
     - This new violence, I'm sure, will serve to intimidate anyone with info . . .  defendandprotect   May-02-08 12:03 PM   #163 
     - i can totally put myself in the shoes of someone whose career is "biographer" which is usually  nashville_brook   May-02-08 03:02 PM   #217 
  - David Kelly  smoogatz   May-01-08 01:29 PM   #16 
  - Colby's always been troubing to me, too.  Husb2Sparkly   May-01-08 01:32 PM   #17 
  - Colby case was very similar to Kelly's  MinM   May-01-08 01:46 PM   #25 
  - Brandy Britton  MinM   May-01-08 01:50 PM   #27 
     - She lived, literally, a stone's throw from me .....  Husb2Sparkly   May-01-08 02:03 PM   #32 
  - Colby had confirmed the Franklin Sex-Slave accusations made in the Cospiracy of Silence documentary  nashville_brook   May-01-08 04:31 PM   #67 
     - You rarely hear anything about the Franklin Case . . .  defendandprotect   May-02-08 12:06 PM   #166 
        - director of central intelligence, yeah. here's the wiki on his death...  nashville_brook   May-02-08 01:49 PM   #188 
        - for a long time i followed  nashville_brook   May-02-08 01:58 PM   #194 
  - what was the name of the investigative reporter that allegedly  merh   May-01-08 01:33 PM   #19 
  - Raymond Lemme?  marekjed   May-01-08 03:03 PM   #58 
     - that's the one  merh   May-01-08 03:26 PM   #61 
     - Never heard of that one -- !!! Thanks for the info!  defendandprotect   May-02-08 12:13 PM   #168 
     - Good summary  vanboggie   Jul-20-08 07:26 AM   #254 
  - I will be vilified, but I would like to ad Margie Schoedinger for consideration. n/t  yodermon   May-01-08 01:35 PM   #20 
  - Vilified? Not by most, if any, here. nt  NCevilDUer   May-01-08 02:39 PM   #47 
  - 3 of Jessica Lynch's "rescuers" died under mysterious circumstances.  OmmmSweetOmmm   May-01-08 01:38 PM   #22 
  - Just doing suicides not accidents right now but highly suspicious deaths  Ichingcarpenter   May-01-08 01:41 PM   #23 
  - you go.  OmmmSweetOmmm   May-01-08 01:55 PM   #28 
  - Re: Salem bin Laden  NCevilDUer   May-01-08 02:41 PM   #49 
     - I don't know about that.  OmmmSweetOmmm   May-01-08 03:11 PM   #59 
  - We should begin at the beginning  TomClash   May-01-08 01:42 PM   #24 
  - Hard to know if James Forestal is even the beginning . . . ????  defendandprotect   May-02-08 12:24 PM   #170 
     - Good point and well done nt  TomClash   May-02-08 12:38 PM   #177 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   May-01-08 01:49 PM   #26 
  - Pat Tillman friendly fire  Ichingcarpenter   May-01-08 01:58 PM   #29 
  - Paul Sanford  BushDespiser12   May-01-08 02:01 PM   #30 
  - I remember Paul Sanford vaguely and something of his work . . .  defendandprotect   May-02-08 12:30 PM   #172 
  - I always thought Hunter S. Thompson would have committed suicide-by-cop.  FreepFryer   May-01-08 02:03 PM   #31 
  - I don't think so  Ichingcarpenter   May-01-08 02:04 PM   #33 
  - What family was this, the hot young wife of the broken down old boozer?  ogsbee   May-02-08 01:10 PM   #182 
  - A story quickly circulated that he was working on a 9/11 inside job piece  Echo In Light   May-02-08 05:32 AM   #120 
     - He was working Election 2004, just like Gary Webb.  L. Coyote   May-02-08 09:44 AM   #146 
     - Meanwhile, I think unusual that we don't have books busting 9/11 and elections . . .  defendandprotect   May-02-08 12:33 PM   #173 
        - Chomsky = disinfo spook  ogsbee   May-02-08 01:04 PM   #181 
        - see reply below  defendandprotect   May-02-08 03:04 PM   #219 
        - Nonsense (nt)  davekriss   May-23-08 08:58 PM   #250 
        - being known for "Manufactured Consent," his 911 tome was a head-scratcher, also  nashville_brook   May-02-08 01:21 PM   #185 
           - Yes . . . agree . . .  defendandprotect   May-02-08 03:10 PM   #221 
              - what an interesting character Collins is. have you seen his wiki? no mention of crop circles.  nashville_brook   May-02-08 03:39 PM   #223 
                 - Hell of guy your Andrew Collins . . . I didn't know the British  defendandprotect   May-02-08 08:01 PM   #229 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   May-01-08 02:07 PM   #34 
  - Add a link... I can no longer change my OP to add him on the list.  Ichingcarpenter   May-01-08 02:09 PM   #36 
     - supposedly he wrapped his own face in duct-tape then tied his own hands in front of his body  nashville_brook   May-01-08 11:52 PM   #101 
        - WHO is this talking about . . . ????  defendandprotect   May-02-08 12:34 PM   #174 
           - I didn't see that post before it was deleted...  truth2power   May-02-08 03:57 PM   #224 
  - Every one of those people were murdered.  Fox Mulder   May-01-08 02:09 PM   #35 
  - La Vena Johnson, Private First Class US Army  shance   May-01-08 02:12 PM   #37 
  - This list is getting longer  Turbineguy   May-01-08 02:18 PM   #38 
  - Army National Guard Spc. Ciara Durkin  shance   May-01-08 02:21 PM   #39 
  - That's was one I was looking for  Ichingcarpenter   May-01-08 02:27 PM   #44 
     - You bet Iching - this list is necessary.  shance   May-01-08 02:49 PM   #53 
  - Danny Casolaro  Jed Dilligan   May-01-08 02:23 PM   #40 
  - jinx -- you owe me a coke -- :)  nashville_brook   May-01-08 02:25 PM   #43 
     - : )  Jed Dilligan   May-01-08 02:30 PM   #45 
  - Danny Casolaro (inslaw, the octopus)  nashville_brook   May-01-08 02:25 PM   #42 
  - DANNY CASOLARO big one -- a new book came out on him a year or so ago ---  defendandprotect   May-02-08 12:37 PM   #176 
     - no -- i have the old one that came out after the Spy Magazine series.  nashville_brook   May-02-08 01:13 PM   #183 
        - Yes . . . meant to buy it because I try to follow news of him . . .  defendandprotect   May-02-08 01:50 PM   #189 
           - yep, i often think of the italian journalist in the same category as LaLa. -- on the DOJ and GOP  nashville_brook   May-02-08 02:12 PM   #199 
              - Did you mean . . .  defendandprotect   May-02-08 02:54 PM   #213 
                 - yeah, i think it's the Keith guy -- it's mentioned in the comments/reviews on Amazon  nashville_brook   May-02-08 02:55 PM   #215 
                    - Well, off we go again, I guess --- !!!  defendandprotect   May-02-08 03:00 PM   #216 
  - Ralph Gonzalez, David Abrami and Robert Drake (Abramoff/Feeney "love triangle" murder/suicide  nashville_brook   May-01-08 02:32 PM   #46 
  - Here are some interesting comments at the website . . .  defendandprotect   May-02-08 01:27 PM   #186 
     - this incident happened within bike-riding distance of my house.  nashville_brook   May-02-08 02:31 PM   #208 
  - Raymond Lemme (Feeney, Yang Ent, Election Fraud)  nashville_brook   May-01-08 02:40 PM   #48 
  - That was the first reporter to look into Election Fraud  Ichingcarpenter   May-01-08 02:42 PM   #50 
  - funny how tom feeney turns up twice -- can't beeelieve he's still in office!  nashville_brook   May-01-08 02:45 PM   #52 
  - he was actually an investigator for the FL Inspector General's office...  nashville_brook   May-01-08 02:50 PM   #55 
  - I think they were losing the South a long time ago and we just didn't recognize it ---  defendandprotect   May-02-08 01:54 PM   #190 
     - yeah -- i met lots of east tennessee old timers who are NOT the "reagan-dems" they were supposed to  nashville_brook   May-02-08 02:54 PM   #214 
        - And, as I pointed out elsewhere . . .  defendandprotect   May-02-08 03:03 PM   #218 
           - my ex-husband's family  nashville_brook   May-02-08 03:05 PM   #220 
  - Frank Olson (LSD, CIA, MkUltra)  nashville_brook   May-01-08 02:44 PM   #51 
  - that's an important one (eom)  grasswire   May-01-08 11:26 PM   #97 
  - Right -- CIA gone wild and covered up ---  defendandprotect   May-02-08 01:55 PM   #192 
  - Wow almost 2000 views of this thread! And only 15 nominations  Ichingcarpenter   May-01-08 02:49 PM   #54 
  - 19 now -- i actually forgot to rec -- :)  nashville_brook   May-01-08 02:55 PM   #56 
  - The stigma attached to conspirorists (sic) is potent. Propaganda working in its purest form.  BushDespiser12   May-01-08 06:34 PM   #82 
     - Amazing how effective this tactic is to get the people to police themselves  Echo In Light   May-02-08 06:26 AM   #124 
     - I think that's over . . . election 2000 cured that . . .  defendandprotect   May-02-08 01:56 PM   #193 
  - and Danny Casolaro, and his lawyer (Wilcher), and six of the people he  happydreams   May-01-08 02:56 PM   #57 
  - Good rant. I know exactly where you are coming from n/t  JohnyCanuck   May-01-08 08:04 PM   #89 
  - Didn't know about those connected to Casolaro --  defendandprotect   May-02-08 02:00 PM   #195 
  - Sgt Terry Yeakey OK City officer  Anon Soldier   May-01-08 03:25 PM   #60 
  - Welcome to DU... I didn't know About Sgt. Yeakey  Ichingcarpenter   May-01-08 03:34 PM   #63 
  - Oklahoma Murrah Building "suicided" ---  defendandprotect   May-02-08 02:08 PM   #196 
  - Sen. John Tower, Sen. John Heinz, Ron Brown  Perragrande   May-01-08 03:31 PM   #62 
  - Ron Brown died in a crash in Bosnia  liam_laddie   May-02-08 12:22 AM   #110 
  - Don't forget John Kokal.  robertpaulsen   May-01-08 03:34 PM   #64 
  - I haven't forgotten him, although I couldn't recall his name and  OmmmSweetOmmm   May-02-08 05:34 AM   #121 
  - Not familiar with that one . . .  defendandprotect   May-02-08 02:10 PM   #197 
  - How about Don Wiley and several other microbiologists?  robertpaulsen   May-01-08 04:03 PM   #65 
  - yep, remember these  avasmom   May-01-08 05:09 PM   #71 
  - Damn! I had forgotten about these "coincidences". We are truly being terrorized...  BushDespiser12   May-01-08 06:31 PM   #81 
  - and the SDI (Star Wars - Marconi) scientists  nashville_brook   May-01-08 07:57 PM   #87 
  - What are these connected to . . . ???  defendandprotect   May-02-08 02:11 PM   #198 
  - Cliff Baxter -- Enron Executive/key witness  nashville_brook   May-01-08 04:10 PM   #66 
  - This should get reposted...  druidity33   May-01-08 04:33 PM   #68 
  - K&R also... nt  druidity33   May-01-08 04:34 PM   #69 
  - Post it in the research forum where people can add to it. n/t  Horse with no Name   May-01-08 05:27 PM   #76 
  - K & GRRRRR!  Truth2Tell   May-01-08 04:51 PM   #70 
  - k&r and thank you! nt  wildbilln864   May-01-08 05:13 PM   #72 
  - Barry Seal  chat_noir   May-01-08 05:20 PM   #73 
  - HBO made a movie about his story awhile ago  Bill219   May-02-08 08:56 AM   #137 
  - don't leave out Steve Kanga n/t  Wiley50   May-01-08 05:21 PM   #74 
  - Steve Kangas  Octafish   May-03-08 06:06 PM   #243 
  - What a profoundly unsettling series of coincidences!  eppur_se_muova   May-01-08 05:24 PM   #75 
  - Remember this listing site?  ogsbee   May-01-08 05:44 PM   #77 
  - Yes I do recall that one  Echo In Light   May-01-08 06:46 PM   #83 
  - Kittym, of the Bush Body Count  ogsbee   May-02-08 08:40 AM   #136 
     - Margie Schoedinger  MinM   May-02-08 09:02 AM   #138 
     - I misphrased that. Does anyone know where Kittym is blogging/posting?  ogsbee   May-02-08 12:58 PM   #178 
  - There was a government employee who fell from a building in Washington  aint_no_life_nowhere   May-01-08 06:02 PM   #78 
  - Artist Mark Lombardi  Raster   May-01-08 06:31 PM   #80 
  - K&R n/t  Lugnut   May-01-08 07:23 PM   #84 
  - Betty MacDonald, David Ferrie, Lt. William Pitzer, William Pawley, Lou Staples and  robertpaulsen   May-01-08 07:45 PM   #85 
  - I think the list should be broken up  Ichingcarpenter   May-01-08 07:52 PM   #86 
  - The earlier era of political violence . . which wasn't the first or last . . .  defendandprotect   May-02-08 02:15 PM   #200 
  - what about the Minot "runaway" Nukes guys? six loaded live nukes... dead air men... ??  nashville_brook   May-01-08 08:01 PM   #88 
  - That would be placed under suspicious deaths and yes they are important  Ichingcarpenter   May-01-08 08:06 PM   #90 
  - i totally missed these when they happened.  nashville_brook   May-01-08 09:02 PM   #91 
  - That's another "disappeared" story --- flying nukes !!!  defendandprotect   May-02-08 02:17 PM   #202 
  - Amazing, no one has mentioned Bobby or John.  tmfun   May-01-08 09:04 PM   #92 
  - JFK, RFK, MLK, Jr. .......hit on Wallace . . . JFK, Jr. ---  defendandprotect   May-02-08 02:19 PM   #203 
  - here are 233  frogcycle   May-01-08 09:32 PM   #93 
  - I think that should teach us that when we ask, "WHY aren't there  defendandprotect   May-02-08 02:25 PM   #204 
     - Also many military people "suicided" in what looks like whistleblowing on drug  defendandprotect   May-02-08 02:26 PM   #205 
  - Wow.... almost 9000 views  Ichingcarpenter   May-01-08 09:40 PM   #94 
  - from 8900 to 9300 in 10 minutes  Ichingcarpenter   May-01-08 10:00 PM   #95 
  - K & R.  BleedingHeartPatriot   May-01-08 11:35 PM   #98 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   May-01-08 11:36 PM   #99 
  - Yes he was one too...... now we have over 10,000 people looking at this  Ichingcarpenter   May-01-08 11:47 PM   #100 
  - Good  Tangerine LaBamba   May-02-08 12:01 AM   #108 
  - Another one new to me . . .  defendandprotect   May-02-08 02:29 PM   #206 
  - Mark Lombardi  Octafish   May-01-08 11:54 PM   #102 
  - JFK junior death  Ichingcarpenter   May-02-08 12:00 AM   #107 
     - Agree --- I don't know how many people have read enough on this yet,  defendandprotect   May-02-08 02:31 PM   #207 
     - ''Three times is enemy action.''  Octafish   May-03-08 11:47 AM   #241 
  - Look no Ignoreds either...  Moochy   May-01-08 11:57 PM   #103 
  - Frank Olson  Octafish   May-01-08 11:58 PM   #104 
  - John ONeil  seemslikeadream   May-01-08 11:58 PM   #105 
  - MLK  seemslikeadream   May-01-08 11:59 PM   #106 
  - K&R! n/t  junofeb   May-02-08 12:19 AM   #109 
  - Not a suicide, but let's not forget Pat Tilman  jgraz   May-02-08 12:34 AM   #111 
  - Already included  Ichingcarpenter   May-02-08 12:38 AM   #112 
  - Why did mods delete Riad Hamad? Because he's Palestinian?  shance   May-02-08 12:43 AM   #113 
  - Include it again we have another mod now  Ichingcarpenter   May-02-08 12:48 AM   #114 
     - Here it is. Thanks Iching.  shance   May-03-08 10:51 AM   #237 
  - Flight 93, you know that hole the plane gouged in the earth in PA?  Ichingcarpenter   May-02-08 12:53 AM   #115 
  - whoa -- funny, but that fits the narrow definition of 'suicide v murder' given that  nashville_brook   May-02-08 12:10 PM   #167 
  - Agree, again . . .  defendandprotect   May-02-08 02:33 PM   #209 
  - You missed out Vincent Foster  edwardlindy   May-02-08 04:03 AM   #116 
  - And Frank Olson too  edwardlindy   May-02-08 04:37 AM   #117 
  - (it was deleted) the littleknown scuttlebutt is that he found evidence linking Bush  nashville_brook   May-02-08 11:52 AM   #158 
  - I didn't say  edwardlindy   May-02-08 01:01 PM   #180 
     - i KNOW! sorry 'bout that.  nashville_brook   May-02-08 01:15 PM   #184 
        - I only knew who he was  edwardlindy   May-02-08 01:44 PM   #187 
  - Do we have any theories on the motivations if this was  defendandprotect   May-02-08 02:37 PM   #210 
  - Dorothy Kilgallen  MinM   May-02-08 06:31 AM   #125 
  - holy crap. i've never heard of her before. this is a classic journo/whistleblower  nashville_brook   May-02-08 12:21 PM   #169 
  - It really is incredible...  MinM   May-03-08 10:33 AM   #235 
  - Read quickly: Does the article mention the death of her best friend?  defendandprotect   May-02-08 02:47 PM   #211 
     - Margaret Smith?  MinM   May-02-08 04:11 PM   #225 
        - I'm not sure of her name ... just that she was her best friend and I think  defendandprotect   May-02-08 08:26 PM   #230 
           - Speaking of connections -- Kilgallen's "Out-of-Towner"  MinM   May-02-08 09:57 PM   #231 
           - Ron Pataky . . . read most of this, but didn't get a chance to look at the links . . .  defendandprotect   May-03-08 12:14 AM   #232 
              - Florence Pritchett Smith  MinM   May-03-08 12:40 PM   #242 
           - Ah yes, the curious death of judges, Judge Battle, for example  ogsbee   May-03-08 11:45 AM   #240 
  - K&R n/t  StephenB48   May-02-08 07:36 AM   #127 
  - Vince Foster  TBF   May-02-08 07:50 AM   #128 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   May-02-08 07:56 AM   #130 
  - There was a website a few yrs back "What happened to the scientists?"  Echo In Light   May-02-08 08:00 AM   #131 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   May-02-08 08:18 AM   #132 
        - Thanks, but no the one I'm thinking of wasn't Rense: it was all black, blog-like  Echo In Light   May-02-08 08:24 AM   #133 
        - we can't link to that -- try: Death by Association (David Kelly + anthrax scientists)  nashville_brook   May-02-08 12:59 PM   #179 
  - Did you see video of DC Madam denying any intent of suicide?  brit54   May-02-08 08:36 AM   #135 
  - Did you see the court papers she filed claiming to be suicidal the last time she faced jail time?  Freddie Stubbs   May-02-08 09:31 AM   #140 
     - No, why don't you show us? nt  Truth2Tell   May-02-08 11:21 AM   #154 
        - Here you go:  Freddie Stubbs   May-02-08 11:36 AM   #155 
           - the only problem with that is that her lawyers were pleading for lieniency -- it doesn't have  nashville_brook   May-02-08 12:04 PM   #164 
           - That wasn't the last time "she faced jail time"  Truth2Tell   May-02-08 03:26 PM   #222 
  - Hey, stop asking questions! Keep shopping!  f the letter   May-02-08 09:29 AM   #139 
  - Raymond Lemme, Florida Election Fraud Investigator  GETPLANING   May-02-08 09:43 AM   #145 
  - Awesome and intriguing, this will keep me busy for hours!  ringtailtooter   May-02-08 10:04 AM   #148 
  - Mark Lombardi (also a hanging)  mod mom   May-02-08 10:38 AM   #151 
  - Ray Lemme  Botany   May-02-08 10:49 AM   #152 
  - I had not heard this about Gary Webb.  jonestonesusa   May-02-08 11:15 AM   #153 
  - Don't forget those dead microbiologists  lovuian   May-02-08 11:51 AM   #157 
  - and the 25 dead Star Wars scientists --  nashville_brook   May-02-08 11:55 AM   #159 
  - Yes! Yes! Yes! Very suspicious deaths. nt  valerief   May-02-08 11:57 AM   #160 
  - WAIT A MINUTE! TWO gunshot wounds to the head in a suicide?  Th1onein   May-02-08 12:01 PM   #161 
  - oh yeah! there's a "scientology suicide" that involved 4 gunshot wounds to the chest.  nashville_brook   May-02-08 12:05 PM   #165 
  - Don't forget Sen. Mel Carnahan --- !!! Even though dead, he defeated Ashcroft --- !!!  defendandprotect   May-02-08 12:26 PM   #171 
  - Don't forget Vince Foster...  Baby Snooks   May-02-08 12:36 PM   #175 
  - I thought Vince Foster was on the Clinton Body Count list  slackmaster   May-02-08 04:22 PM   #226 
  - Thom Hartmann just mentioned this thread  LSK   May-02-08 01:55 PM   #191 
  - no way. cool!-- :) -- so noble to pursue truth in a time of secrecy  nashville_brook   May-02-08 02:49 PM   #212 
  - Admiral Boorda  notesdev   May-02-08 02:16 PM   #201 
  - There are no death squads in the U.S. Repeat after me. There are no death squads in the U.S.  ogsbee   May-02-08 05:17 PM   #227 
  - Have we got to Bambi's mother yet ?  edwardlindy   May-02-08 05:27 PM   #228 
  - K&R  Pastiche423   May-03-08 04:08 AM   #233 
  - Costas Tsalikidis, Asamo Bove, NSA Whistleblowers  xyouth   May-03-08 09:52 AM   #234 
  - A lot of that going around eh?  dogday   May-03-08 10:35 AM   #236 
  - I'm sure someone has mentioned Hunter Thompson.  shance   May-03-08 10:52 AM   #238 
  - Paul Wellstone  shance   May-03-08 10:53 AM   #239 
  - Dan Wallace, son of NYFD fire fighter killed on 9/11 & 9/11 truthseeker  aldo   May-19-08 01:46 PM   #244 
  - Druyun?  Sweet Pea   May-19-08 02:58 PM   #245 
  - dorothy kilgallen columnist NY Sun over Kennedy allegations  T Monk   May-19-08 03:53 PM   #246 
  - Microbiologists death List is Staggering!  whoshaq08   May-23-08 01:36 PM   #247 
  - Bruce E. Ivins  MinM   Aug-07-08 09:12 AM   #260 
  - The Clinton death list  hack89   May-23-08 02:16 PM   #248 
  - I hope some don't miss your point.  greyl   May-23-08 02:23 PM   #249 
  - Classic lines from the Godfather  davekriss   May-23-08 09:06 PM   #251 
  - Funny they don't even touch the Truthers, who are spilling the beans on the whole plot every day!  Perry Logan   May-24-08 07:24 AM   #252 
  - Are you kidding, they can't risk waking up the sheeple  aldo   May-27-08 04:18 PM   #253 
  - Add Dr. David Graham....  wildbilln864   Jul-20-08 11:58 PM   #255 
  - That link went to an empty page, but it is in Google's cache.  Make7   Jul-21-08 01:01 AM   #256 
     - Thank you Make7. nt  wildbilln864   Jul-21-08 11:34 AM   #257 
        - He has considerable  Hope2006   Jul-21-08 05:45 PM   #258 
           - yes, he does alright I guess....  wildbilln864   Jul-21-08 09:31 PM   #259 
  - Thanks for the list.  david_watts   Nov-25-08 03:14 PM   #263 

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