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Sun Apr-06-08 06:20 PM
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| 23. Which doesn't answer the question... |
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Powder burns....
or tattooing, begin to occur as the gun is backed up to more than 1/2" from the body. The maximum distance from which powder burns can occur depends a good deal upon the type of gun used.
Powder burns
are orange brownish reddish in appearance. If they are gray or yellow, the victim was already dead when the shot was inflicted. Powder burns are caused by burning particles of powder which are ejected from the gun and become imbedded into the live skin. There is no actual burning of the skin which takes place. In that sense, the name powder burn is a misnomer. The particles simply penetrate into the skin and finish burning there by themselves. At closer than 1/2", the powder grains do not have a chance to spread out behind the bullet. They go into the entry wound rather than tattooing the skin around the entry wound. http://dmmoyle.com/simeans.htm Iver Johnson .22 caliber: at what distance is it likely to produce powder burns? .22 caliber in general? Since you're citing wikipedia, what the hell, I'll do the same (possibly my first cite of it ever): In conducting an autopsy on Kennedy, Los Angeles coroner Thomas N. Noguchi found powder burns on Kennedy's ear and gunpowder residue in his hair. Noguchi said this indicated that Kennedy was shot from a distance of, at most, 1.5 inches. (When a firearm is discharged, the powder travels only a few inches because the gas is very light.) Noguchi's conclusions led to speculation that Sirhan was too far from Kennedy to have adminstered the fatal shot, and that a second shooter must have been present. Noguchi himself wrote years later that "Until more is precisely known…the existence of a second gunman remains a possibility. Thus, I have never said that Sirhan Sirhan killed Robert Kennedy."(4) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/index.php?title=Robert_F._...
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| -Experts: Sirhan Sirhan Did Not Kill RFK |
seemslikeadream |
Mar-26-08 05:26 PM |
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Glad you posted this. |
Hope2006 |
Mar-26-08 05:33 PM |
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Sirhan and the RFK Assassination |
seemslikeadream |
Mar-26-08 09:53 PM |
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Rowan and Martin's “Laugh-In”: a Robert Maheu Production? |
MinM |
Apr-15-08 11:03 PM |
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They don't just assassinate; they make sure that avenues to remedies are closed . . . |
defendandprotect |
Apr-17-08 08:41 PM |
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That's exactly right... |
MinM |
Apr-19-08 03:47 PM |
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Ex-Howard Hughes spokesman, CIA operative dies |
MinM |
Aug-06-08 12:11 PM |
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John Meier says the Howard Hughes organization was involved in the RFK assassination |
MinM |
Jun-05-08 02:01 PM |
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Have you seen these vids? |
seemslikeadream |
Jun-05-08 02:08 PM |
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Playboy: The Puppet and the Puppetmasters |
MinM |
Jan-29-09 09:06 PM |
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CIA took money from any RW sources -- including KKK and Nazis .... |
defendandprotect |
Dec-03-11 01:09 AM |
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Did you know that gullible isn't in the dictionary????? |
boloboffin |
Mar-26-08 05:58 PM |
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Gullible is believing the same government claimed Saddam had WMDs on stand-by. |
Octafish |
Apr-05-08 01:26 PM |
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Sadly, "irrelevant" is in the dictionary. |
boloboffin |
Apr-05-08 01:35 PM |
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Is that not amusing? |
seemslikeadream |
Apr-05-08 02:02 PM |
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Never let facts get in the way of a good story! |
PhD |
Nov-04-09 10:42 PM |
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And we'd have got away with it if it weren't for |
Laurier |
Apr-05-08 02:12 AM |
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.. |
seemslikeadream |
Apr-05-08 09:51 AM |
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Hm... |
k-robjoe |
Apr-05-08 11:06 AM |
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Debunkers: Where's the sarcastic know-nothing response on Uecker? |
JackRiddler |
Apr-05-08 03:16 PM |
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Whatever happened to Dan Moldea? |
Octafish |
Apr-05-08 06:36 PM |
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I haven't seen him on my TV |
seemslikeadream |
Apr-05-08 08:08 PM |
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Moldea wrote 'Dark Victory: Reagan, MCA & the Mob' |
Octafish |
Apr-06-08 12:55 AM |
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Apparently making that 'NFL-mafia connection' got Moldea blackballed |
MinM |
Apr-07-08 06:55 PM |
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Dan Moldea and the DC Madam |
MinM |
May-12-08 07:41 AM |
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Looks like Dan Moldea is there is create lies and attest to them -- !! |
defendandprotect |
Dec-03-11 01:21 AM |
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Moldea was still being pushed up to a few years ago -- always thought him a player for RW side .... |
defendandprotect |
Dec-03-11 01:20 AM |
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Good question! n/t |
Hope2006 |
Apr-06-08 12:50 AM |
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I've been waiting for the sarcastic know-nothing attack on debunkers. |
boloboffin |
Apr-06-08 03:16 PM |
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So it's a, "just another confused eyewitness." |
JackRiddler |
Apr-06-08 04:20 PM |
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Counter evidence - the recordings only have Sirhan's eight shots. |
boloboffin |
Apr-06-08 04:42 PM |
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point blank range |
sabbat hunter |
Apr-06-08 12:44 PM |
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You don't link... |
JackRiddler |
Apr-06-08 05:00 PM |
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here is a link |
sabbat hunter |
Apr-06-08 05:24 PM |
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Powder burns |
k-robjoe |
Apr-06-08 05:47 PM |
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So, let me make sure I get this straight... |
SDuderstadt |
Apr-06-08 07:50 PM |
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It´s all very confusing |
k-robjoe |
Apr-07-08 04:07 AM |
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I don't think your "source" is particularly believable |
SDuderstadt |
Apr-07-08 06:27 PM |
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"false certainty" |
k-robjoe |
Apr-08-08 04:49 AM |
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Kill the messenger! |
JackRiddler |
Apr-08-08 07:26 AM |
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Coming from someone down on Moldea, that is a really big LOL! n/t |
boloboffin |
Apr-08-08 07:53 AM |
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Zero still requires addition of $2 metro card for subway ride. |
JackRiddler |
Apr-08-08 07:56 AM |
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Yeah. |
boloboffin |
Apr-08-08 07:59 AM |
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You're assuming what Shanna says is true |
SDuderstadt |
Apr-08-08 11:05 AM |
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No, I'm taking Noguchi's word for it. |
JackRiddler |
Apr-08-08 11:40 AM |
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But since Uecker could not have known the position of Kennedy throughout the event |
boloboffin |
Apr-08-08 11:48 AM |
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Uecker couldn't know, but obviously you do - thanks to Randivision (tm). |
JackRiddler |
Apr-08-08 11:53 AM |
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Uecker was in front of Kennedy, looking at the gun and dealing with Sirhan. |
boloboffin |
Apr-08-08 01:13 PM |
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Field of vision |
k-robjoe |
Apr-08-08 04:43 PM |
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All very true about his field of vision... |
JackRiddler |
Jan-30-09 04:33 PM |
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Bugliosi |
k-robjoe |
Apr-08-08 01:30 PM |
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... was an early champion of reopening the RFK case against Sirhan Sirhan |
MinM |
Apr-08-08 01:46 PM |
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...has probably changed his mind between then and now. n/t |
boloboffin |
Apr-08-08 01:50 PM |
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Perhaps ... |
MinM |
Apr-08-08 02:56 PM |
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Bwa! |
boloboffin |
Apr-08-08 03:14 PM |
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You are correct... |
MinM |
Apr-08-08 03:47 PM |
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And it's irrelevant. |
JackRiddler |
Apr-08-08 03:47 PM |
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Spence, Bugliosi and 40 years later... |
MinM |
Jun-04-08 08:00 AM |
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There was distance and there was the fact gun was in FRONT of RFK .... |
defendandprotect |
Dec-03-11 01:28 AM |
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Show me where Shannan cites a specific source and links to it |
SDuderstadt |
Apr-09-08 03:36 PM |
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Shannan has nothing to do with it. It's Noguchi, the coroner. |
JackRiddler |
Apr-10-08 11:42 AM |
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You need to pay attention, Jack |
SDuderstadt |
Apr-10-08 12:20 PM |
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No, you jumped into a discussion of the bullets and powder burns... |
JackRiddler |
Apr-10-08 12:31 PM |
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Jesus Fucking Christ, Jack... |
SDuderstadt |
Apr-10-08 01:01 PM |
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"so Cesar was on the floor" |
k-robjoe |
Apr-10-08 01:31 PM |
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Thane Eugene Cesar -- a name we need to keep out there for all to see ... !!! |
defendandprotect |
Dec-03-11 01:31 AM |
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This is an open board, members may respond to any post. |
JackRiddler |
Apr-10-08 01:55 PM |
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I see neither you nor K-robjoe can answer the question I posed |
SDuderstadt |
Apr-10-08 03:35 PM |
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Many people saw Cesar with his gun drawn. |
JackRiddler |
Apr-11-08 09:24 PM |
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If by "learning about the case" you mean buying what some... |
SDuderstadt |
Apr-11-08 09:59 PM |
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yawn... |
JackRiddler |
Apr-11-08 11:50 PM |
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No, Jack... |
SDuderstadt |
Apr-12-08 01:23 AM |
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general agenda. |
seemslikeadream |
Apr-15-08 11:37 PM |
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Donald Schulman, of KNXT Television |
MinM |
Apr-16-08 02:37 PM |
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Thanks! n/t |
k-robjoe |
Apr-16-08 05:27 PM |
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I'd heard that Cesar was the actual assassin. He's alive and well, |
ailsagirl |
Apr-22-08 02:04 PM |
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Evidently they don't need to eliminate him .... !! But, some say they saw at least |
defendandprotect |
Dec-03-11 01:36 AM |
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Who said no one saw it? There were people who saw it --- |
defendandprotect |
Apr-16-08 09:51 PM |
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Then name them, D&P and... |
SDuderstadt |
Apr-17-08 10:21 PM |
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Here, let me settle this |
ResetButton |
Aug-06-08 06:12 PM |
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Aww. Do you need some juice? n/t |
boloboffin |
Aug-06-08 06:14 PM |
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Which doesn't answer the question... |
JackRiddler |
Apr-06-08 06:20 PM |
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You're in denial that gun was still in FRONT of RFK while wounds are in back ... |
defendandprotect |
Dec-03-11 01:24 AM |
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MLK - William F. Pepper & Judge Joe Brown on NPR - 4.4.2008 |
seemslikeadream |
Apr-05-08 11:47 AM |
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Thank you ... saved to my favs --- |
defendandprotect |
Apr-17-08 08:43 PM |
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Thank you for the links . . . saving them for another day! |
defendandprotect |
Mar-30-09 12:33 AM |
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CIA Operative/LAPD Detective Hank Hernadez v Sandy Serrano |
MinM |
Apr-08-08 12:59 PM |
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Scott Enyart |
MinM |
Apr-08-08 04:12 PM |
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The RFK 'Zapruder Film' |
MinM |
Apr-10-08 02:05 PM |
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Ah, yes, this is a tape that has to be heard . . . I've heard it a few times and it's |
defendandprotect |
Apr-16-08 09:56 PM |
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You are welcome. |
MinM |
Apr-17-08 12:50 PM |
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Thank you -- saved and listening to one now . . . A&E/History Channel |
defendandprotect |
Apr-17-08 07:55 PM |
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RFK | USAID | SUS |
MinM |
Apr-09-08 07:02 AM |
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"RFK" (documentary; 2008) |
MinM |
May-20-08 11:06 AM |
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Thank you MinM |
seemslikeadream |
May-20-08 09:51 PM |
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The Assassination of Robert Kennedy (1992) |
MinM |
Nov-29-11 08:41 PM |
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Uh, huh. They decided to release this "blockbuster news" from a CASINO? |
Redstone |
Aug-06-08 04:37 PM |
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Oh stop it |
seemslikeadream |
Aug-06-08 04:53 PM |
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Have you listened to the interview with Shane O Sullivan, author "Who Killed Bobby?" |
MrMickeysMom |
Jan-29-09 09:16 PM |
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41 Years Since RFK Assassination |
MinM |
Mar-20-09 01:32 PM |
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The myth of the lone gunman . . . the misfit -- !!!! |
defendandprotect |
Mar-25-09 02:29 AM |
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k i c k |
defendandprotect |
Mar-30-09 12:35 AM |
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RFK Assassin Sirhan Sirhan Moved to New Prison |
MinM |
Nov-03-09 10:52 AM |
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Jack Ruby tried to tell the truth -- tried to get a new trial -- as he got closer to it . .. |
defendandprotect |
Nov-03-09 10:06 PM |
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In about 30,40 years we might have the power on the left to bring truth forward . . .I hope!!! |
defendandprotect |
Nov-03-09 09:57 PM |
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TRUTH TO POWER! |
snooper2 |
Nov-04-09 03:00 PM |
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Yes -- |
defendandprotect |
Nov-04-09 03:42 PM |
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THIS is more sleight of hand which should wake up DU'ers re 9/11 . . .as well -- !!! |
defendandprotect |
Nov-05-09 02:24 PM |
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The return of Zombie slad!...nt |
SidDithers |
Nov-05-09 02:26 PM |
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Ha! |
MrMickeysMom |
Nov-05-09 10:33 PM |
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Nah, I just miss the tears of laughter that she and her posts used to induce... |
SidDithers |
Nov-06-09 10:09 AM |
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Jesus, that was a hoot! |
SDuderstadt |
Nov-06-09 10:52 AM |
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Geez, Sid... |
MrMickeysMom |
Nov-06-09 06:57 PM |
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Sirhan Sirhan Hassan Cho. |
thepeopleunited |
Nov-07-09 04:14 PM |
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Zombie slad rises again... |
SidDithers |
Dec-02-11 12:07 PM |
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Where's this thread been? Good to see it back -- a lot of info on this thread -- !! |
defendandprotect |
Dec-03-11 12:23 AM |
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I remember SLAD... |
jberryhill |
Dec-03-11 01:15 AM |
#110 |