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Bolo Boffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 01:12 PM
Response to Reply #28
29. One person says it happened at one point in time and another person says it happened at another
Edited on Tue May-06-08 01:22 PM by boloboffin
and that's not a conflict?


ETA: I'm sorry, but "He meant well" isn't something that changes this from being a conflict. Nice talking to you.
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  -Seven CIA Veterans Challenge 9/11 Commission Report AikidoSoul  Sep-25-07 09:26 PM   #0 
  - question  stop the bleeding   Sep-25-07 09:29 PM   #1 
  - I personally know Ray McGovern -- he is a very reliable  AikidoSoul   Sep-25-07 09:35 PM   #2 
     - dupe  defendandprotect   Sep-25-07 09:42 PM   #5 
     - Not Leon Panetta -- I think you mean Secretary of Transportation, NORMAN MINETA--- !!!!!  defendandprotect   Sep-25-07 09:45 PM   #6 
        - I stand corrected  AikidoSoul   Sep-25-07 09:51 PM   #7 
  - kick eom  ellenfl   Sep-25-07 09:38 PM   #3 
  - I've heard McGovern say this before.........  PDJane   Sep-25-07 09:39 PM   #4 
  - Shameless kick n/t  AikidoSoul   Sep-25-07 10:11 PM   #8 
  - This is an outstanding article.  Major Hogwash   Sep-25-07 11:10 PM   #9 
  - deafening tone of all mainstream media outlets as well  subsuelo   Sep-29-07 10:02 AM   #16 
  - According to most CTs  hack89   Sep-29-07 05:15 PM   #17 
  - Kick  havocmom   Sep-25-07 11:17 PM   #10 
  - This meeting?  Pastiche423   Sep-26-07 01:31 AM   #14 
     - self deleted! n/t  wildbilln864   Sep-27-07 08:05 PM   #15 
  - Damn tin foil hat  BlackVelvet04   Sep-25-07 11:25 PM   #11 
  - Well luckly we can rely on the History channel 'experts'  Rex   Sep-25-07 11:28 PM   #12 
  - Kick for one of my teachers, Peter Dale Scott.  sfexpat2000   Sep-25-07 11:30 PM   #13 
  - True American Patriots  Twist_U_Up   Nov-19-07 06:38 PM   #18 
  - "9/11 and American Empire" on Google video  Perry Logan   Nov-19-07 08:19 PM   #19 
  - 'Do the orders still stand?'  Octafish   May-05-08 09:52 PM   #20 
  - Absolutely!  wildbilln864   May-05-08 11:35 PM   #21 
  - If only you would.  boloboffin   May-06-08 04:15 AM   #22 
     - Not everyone agrees with your theory.  eomer   May-06-08 07:34 AM   #23 
     - Mineta is extremely mixed up.  boloboffin   May-06-08 07:37 AM   #24 
        - Maybe I'm missing it -- is there anything in that link that conflicts with Mineta's account? (eom)  eomer   May-06-08 11:03 AM   #25 
           - The story is about how Mineta thinks he gave the national ground stop order  boloboffin   May-06-08 12:55 PM   #27 
           - No, that's not a conflict.  eomer   May-06-08 01:09 PM   #28 
              - One person says it happened at one point in time and another person says it happened at another  boloboffin   May-06-08 01:12 PM   #29 
                 - Where's the conflict?  eomer   May-06-08 02:43 PM   #31 
                    - Incredible.  boloboffin   May-06-08 04:42 PM   #36 
                       - If he's wrong on his timing then he's wrong on pretty much all of it.  eomer   May-06-08 06:23 PM   #39 
                          - The dissonance is there. Where does Occam's Razor tell you to center it?  boloboffin   May-06-08 06:26 PM   #40 
                             - It's not just one guy. That is a totally false statement of the facts.  eomer   May-06-08 07:01 PM   #42 
                                - Dick Cheney does no such thing.  boloboffin   May-06-08 07:40 PM   #43 
                                   - I already gave you Cheney's account. I referred you to #41.  eomer   May-06-08 08:23 PM   #44 
                                      - Time to read the whole thing instead picking out juicy cherries.  boloboffin   May-06-08 08:34 PM   #45 
                                         - The crash at the Pentagon was at 9:37. The CR says that Cheney didn't get to PEOC until about 9:58.  eomer   May-06-08 10:18 PM   #46 
                                            - I think I'll believe Mineta over the last throws dickster. nt  wildbilln864   May-06-08 10:58 PM   #47 
                                            - So you now concede that Cheney's account that you quoted does NOT support the Mineta timeline? Yes?  boloboffin   May-07-08 04:20 AM   #49 
                                               - No, quite the contrary,  eomer   May-07-08 05:44 AM   #50 
                                               - I just showed you how Cheney's 9/17 timeline fits the 9/11 CR account and not Mineta's.  boloboffin   May-07-08 05:56 AM   #51 
                                               - Yes, people can read.  eomer   May-07-08 06:22 AM   #53 
                                               - I'm selecting the words????  boloboffin   May-07-08 06:23 AM   #54 
                                               - No, not ignoring, just taking them up one by one.  eomer   May-07-08 08:32 AM   #56 
                                               - What time did Flight 77 go into its spiral descent?  boloboffin   May-07-08 09:58 AM   #59 
                                               - Cheney said it was when the plane headed for the White House.  eomer   May-07-08 11:46 AM   #62 
                                               - The descent had the plane turn away and then turn back to Washington.  boloboffin   May-07-08 11:48 AM   #63 
                                               - Are you looking at the flight path?  eomer   May-07-08 12:54 PM   #64 
                                               - BOTH OF THEM triggered the message to the Secret Service.  boloboffin   May-07-08 01:22 PM   #65 
                                               - But the whole point was to try to determine WHEN the message was sent.  eomer   May-07-08 01:27 PM   #66 
                                               - The message was a phone call from Reagan to the Secret Service.  boloboffin   May-07-08 02:56 PM   #67 
                                               - What time did that descending spiral happen? It is happening right now.  eomer   May-07-08 04:08 PM   #68 
                                               - Nice talking to you.  boloboffin   May-07-08 04:27 PM   #69 
           - Timing is everything  Mike Williams   May-06-08 02:40 PM   #30 
              - But then what do you make of Mineta's account of his conversation with Belger?  eomer   May-06-08 02:47 PM   #32 
                 - Something's got to go  Mike Williams   May-06-08 03:00 PM   #33 
                    - Maybe something's got to go, maybe not. And, if so, which is it?  eomer   May-06-08 03:33 PM   #34 
                       - The weight of evidence is what matters  Mike Williams   May-06-08 04:07 PM   #35 
                          - To weigh the evidence you need to make sure you've gotten all of it.  eomer   May-06-08 04:44 PM   #37 
                             - Of course.  Mike Williams   May-06-08 05:05 PM   #38 
                                - Well, just to balance your set of examples, here's one for the other side.  eomer   May-06-08 06:50 PM   #41 
                                   - Doesn't corroborate Mineta  Mike Williams   May-07-08 02:48 AM   #48 
                                      - In order to reach that conclusion you had to ignore what Cheney's actual words were.  eomer   May-07-08 06:18 AM   #52 
                                         - Ignore?  Mike Williams   May-07-08 07:19 AM   #55 
                                            - The program is definitely not the original material.  eomer   May-07-08 08:50 AM   #57 
                                               - The text version is a summary of the TV programme  Mike Williams   May-07-08 09:44 AM   #58 
                                                  - Spinning our wheels. Do we agree that the program guests were not live?  eomer   May-07-08 10:37 AM   #60 
                                                  - Of course  Mike Williams   May-07-08 11:18 AM   #61 
     - "basic truthful intent of the 9/11 Commission".  CJCRANE   May-06-08 11:35 AM   #26 
  - Surely they are kooks. Right?  Twist_U_Up   Jun-24-08 02:19 PM   #70 
  - A kick for one of the real stories about 9/11 (seven CIA veterans challenge 9/11 CR)  Diane_nyc   Jun-29-08 06:28 AM   #71 
     - Looks like this thread  Hope2006   Jun-29-08 06:43 AM   #72 

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