You are viewing an obsolete version of the DU website which is no longer supported by the Administrators. Visit The New DU.
Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login

Reply #21: Sorry, but 9/11 conspiracy theories do encompass all of the [View All]

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
Home » Discuss » Topic Forums » September 11 Donate to DU
Flatulo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-17-07 04:04 PM
Response to Reply #19
21. Sorry, but 9/11 conspiracy theories do encompass all of the
versions that I mentioned. I did not call out any particular scheme as being more or less implausible than any of the others. I merely stated that none of them were plausible to me.

> Very few espouse the idea of mini-nukes, space beams

Point taken.

> When I see an administration lying to me over and over on x, y and z issues, why is it so crazy to believe
> they lied about 9/11 issues as well.

This is a point I see repeated all the time, but it makes no sense to me. The OCT is *not* GWB's private property. The 9/11 Comission was bi-partisan, and the NIST and FEMA reports were produced by hundreds of professionals with no connections to the administration. Hell, my graduate professor in advanced mechanics of materials at WPI was part of the investigation. Are hundreds of engineers and scientists lying? I think not.

I will humbly note that I am a degreed mechanical engineer, and I find it emminently plausible that a 100+ story building would fail given the extent of structural and thermal damage. I cannot for the life of me imagine it *not* falling as it did once the collapse sequence began.
Printer Friendly | Permalink | Reply | Top
  - The 9/11 Commission was hamstrung by official obstruction. seemslikeadream  Sep-16-07 07:20 PM   #0 
  - We know it for the farce it was.  BushDespiser12   Sep-16-07 07:24 PM   #1 
  - ZELIKOW  seemslikeadream   Sep-16-07 07:31 PM   #2 
  - Films are excellent, SLaD  Hope2006   Sep-16-07 08:05 PM   #4 
  - Philip Zelikow gets confronted  truth01   Jan-02-08 03:36 PM   #83 
  - I can't speak for others, but I don't believe I have ever claimed that  Flatulo   Sep-16-07 07:32 PM   #3 
     - I agree nt  LARED   Sep-16-07 09:00 PM   #5 
     - Why do you  noise   Sep-17-07 01:48 AM   #6 
     - A couple of things...  Flatulo   Sep-17-07 10:37 AM   #9 
        - Have to question your reasoning  Bryan Sacks   Sep-17-07 10:55 AM   #10 
        - It depends on Bush' mental state.  Flatulo   Sep-17-07 12:28 PM   #14 
           - I can't believe you've never read the PNAC manifesto  elias7   Sep-17-07 01:47 PM   #16 
           - Bush's mental framework  End Of The Road   Sep-18-07 07:28 AM   #35 
        - Are you aware that some of the best fighter pilots said they couldn't have  cui bono   Sep-18-07 03:23 PM   #55 
        - Yes, and still others have taken the opposing viewpoint.  Flatulo   Sep-19-07 12:57 PM   #67 
        - "there is no logical reason to suspect that the events of 9/11 involved government complicity"  rschop   Nov-25-09 11:47 PM   #91 
     - When you lump all "truthers" together, you do speak for others  elias7   Sep-17-07 01:56 PM   #17 
        - I have never called anyone a crackpot. Please retract that  Flatulo   Sep-17-07 02:42 PM   #18 
           - a bit hyperbolic to call it a lie, but you are right  elias7   Sep-17-07 03:44 PM   #19 
              - "When I see an administration lying to me over and over on x, y and z issues..."  boloboffin   Sep-17-07 03:58 PM   #20 
              - Sorry, but 9/11 conspiracy theories do encompass all of the  Flatulo   Sep-17-07 04:04 PM   #21 
                 - it is NOT about controlled demolition  elias7   Sep-18-07 01:37 PM   #51 
                    - You raise some very good points, and I'm trying to be gracious  Flatulo   Sep-18-07 07:54 PM   #60 
                    - Indeed . . . !!! And so much of it "amazing coincidence" . . . !!!  defendandprotect   Apr-07-09 09:57 PM   #88 
  - This proves the Commission Report was not a "cover up."  Perry Logan   Sep-17-07 07:04 AM   #7 
  - Kean and Hamilton did not write the report  Bryan Sacks   Sep-17-07 10:31 AM   #8 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Sep-17-07 12:02 PM   #11 
     - Bolo can call people "creep" and SweetPea can call peope "asshole"  seatnineb   Sep-17-07 12:07 PM   #12 
        - Deleted message  Name removed   Sep-17-07 12:10 PM   #13 
        - SeemsLikeADream was a donating member.....and I don't recall her calling  seatnineb   Sep-17-07 12:55 PM   #15 
        - Deleted message  Name removed   Sep-18-07 09:28 AM   #39 
           - Deleted message  Name removed   Sep-18-07 06:20 PM   #58 
           - nonsense  OnTheOtherHand   Sep-18-07 07:10 PM   #59 
              - I got a lot more from that thread than that  Hope2006   Sep-18-07 08:22 PM   #62 
                 - that's great, but this claim by hamden isn't respectful  OnTheOtherHand   Sep-18-07 08:31 PM   #63 
                    - He was expressing a viewpoint  Hope2006   Sep-18-07 08:33 PM   #64 
                       - "It's no mystery that the OCTers can get away with anything and everything"  OnTheOtherHand   Sep-19-07 08:42 AM   #65 
                          - You might check those "recently deleted messages"  Hope2006   Sep-19-07 09:27 AM   #66 
                          - I don't think it ever was one-sided  OnTheOtherHand   Sep-19-07 03:12 PM   #69 
                          - your understanding of respect may be at variance with the definition of the term  Bryan Sacks   Sep-19-07 01:44 PM   #68 
                             - whew  OnTheOtherHand   Sep-19-07 03:36 PM   #70 
                                - I'd rather not have to go to those lengths, believe me  Bryan Sacks   Sep-20-07 08:45 AM   #71 
                                   - well...  OnTheOtherHand   Sep-20-07 09:46 AM   #74 
                                   - The truther you're speaking of has had more deleted posts than all OCTs combined.  greyl   Sep-20-07 10:41 AM   #75 
                                      - "baseless lines of bullshit "  HamdenRice   Sep-20-07 10:57 AM   #76 
                                         - Thoughtful DUers know how much of your posts are false and pathetic.  greyl   Sep-21-07 02:19 AM   #77 
                                         - Thoughtful? Why do so many of your analyses rely on "poop" references?  HamdenRice   Sep-21-07 06:45 AM   #78 
                                         - Yes, thoughtful. nt  greyl   Sep-26-07 01:02 AM   #79 
                                         - .  greyl   Jan-02-08 12:42 AM   #81 
        - It may, but "its" doesn't have an apostrophe  Ezlivin   Sep-17-07 04:23 PM   #22 
        - Seems gave as good as she got  boloboffin   Sep-17-07 04:42 PM   #23 
        - You crossed that years ago  Twist_U_Up   Sep-18-07 04:16 AM   #31 
        - They didn't post links on DU to anti-Semitic websites  Anarcho-Socialist   Sep-17-07 05:30 PM   #24 
           - Usually the thread gets deleted, not the person;  babylonsister   Sep-17-07 10:17 PM   #25 
           - Is there an official list of sites NOT to link to? because I've never been aware of  mod mom   Sep-17-07 10:28 PM   #26 
           - I'm not aware of a list, either, but there should be.  babylonsister   Sep-17-07 10:32 PM   #27 
           - It should be clarified with a detailed list imho. So sad about slad.  mod mom   Sep-17-07 10:36 PM   #28 
              - She can fight it, and if she needs anyone to be a 'witness' for her, I'm  babylonsister   Sep-17-07 10:42 PM   #29 
                 - me too! n/t  seatnineb   Sep-18-07 04:27 AM   #33 
                 - me too. Her posts are ones I look for. I have never heard disparaging comments  mod mom   Sep-18-07 07:05 AM   #34 
           - It'd be impossible to keep a list since new ones keep springing up  salvorhardin   Sep-17-07 11:44 PM   #30 
           - She was aware  Anarcho-Socialist   Sep-18-07 07:49 AM   #37 
           - So calling people creep and asshole does not break the following rules???  seatnineb   Sep-18-07 04:26 AM   #32 
              - Yes, she also broke those rules too  Anarcho-Socialist   Sep-18-07 07:53 AM   #38 
                 - But Bolo,Sweetpea and Vince vega break those rules...yet they remain...  seatnineb   Sep-18-07 12:06 PM   #40 
                    - I am not a mod  Anarcho-Socialist   Sep-18-07 12:24 PM   #41 
                    - Bolo called me a "creep" and sweetpea called me an "asshole"  seatnineb   Sep-18-07 12:42 PM   #44 
                       - You would for certain get your posts deleted  Anarcho-Socialist   Sep-18-07 12:51 PM   #45 
                       - OK....I understand and agree with what U R saying.....n/t  seatnineb   Sep-18-07 01:02 PM   #46 
                       - I agree with this  Bryan Sacks   Sep-20-07 08:50 AM   #72 
                       - "Now If I was to call anyone here on this forum the same...i am 100% sure i would get banned."  salvorhardin   Sep-18-07 01:13 PM   #48 
                          - Naa.....I wanna keep U guys company n/t  seatnineb   Sep-18-07 01:38 PM   #52 
                    - I feel like I'm back in the sixth grade  vincent_vega_lives   Sep-18-07 12:24 PM   #42 
                       - implied I was a "nut"  seatnineb   Sep-18-07 12:38 PM   #43 
                          - You really want to drudge that thread up?  vincent_vega_lives   Sep-18-07 01:22 PM   #49 
                          - Really?.......considering I am still waiting for you 2 respond to half a dozen  seatnineb   Sep-18-07 01:27 PM   #50 
                             - And so did you report it? (n/t)  vincent_vega_lives   Sep-18-07 02:08 PM   #53 
                                - No.....that is why you can still see it. n/t  seatnineb   Sep-18-07 03:01 PM   #54 
                          - Semantics... a 'tough nut' to crack means "it is difficult to persuade  Flatulo   Sep-18-07 07:59 PM   #61 
                             - Yeah i know that....but if U read the thread where Vince said that:  seatnineb   Sep-20-07 09:22 AM   #73 
  - Not a pure "cover up" -- more like a "limited hangout." n/t  Progs Rock   Sep-26-07 01:19 AM   #80 
  - Let SLAD back in  End Of The Road   Sep-18-07 07:34 AM   #36 
  - Yep I agree...SLAD is a great researcher. period. n/t  seatnineb   Sep-18-07 01:04 PM   #47 
  - SLAD rocks! Let her back in!!!  cui bono   Sep-18-07 03:34 PM   #56 
  - SLAD's Suspension Is For 6 Days Only  Mr. Ected   Sep-18-07 05:02 PM   #57 
  - We call that obstruction.  seemslikeadream   Jan-02-08 06:16 AM   #82 
  - just a reminder! nt  wildbilln864   Apr-07-09 02:33 PM   #84 
  - Oh, the poor 9/11 Commissioners  Woody Box   Apr-07-09 03:07 PM   #85 
  - yep  seemslikeadream   Apr-07-09 03:54 PM   #86 
  - Former Sen. Max Cleland resigned from his own commission ...."This is a scam" --  defendandprotect   Apr-07-09 09:50 PM   #87 
  - Sure would like to know what Max and Meyers were talking about  Old and In the Way   Apr-10-09 01:43 AM   #89 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Nov-22-09 09:46 PM   #90 
  - .  omega minimo   Nov-28-09 12:16 AM   #92 
  - Peter sounds like he was shocked that BUSHCO lied! n/t  icee2   Nov-28-09 11:00 AM   #93 
  - Zombie slad rises again...  SidDithers   Dec-01-09 01:08 AM   #94 
  - And again  Ohio Joe   Jul-30-11 11:02 AM   #97 
     - Awesome!!!...  SidDithers   Jul-30-11 02:10 PM   #98 
  - Historic thread n/t  BeFree   Jul-23-11 10:41 PM   #95 
     - It is...  MrMickeysMom   Jul-29-11 11:01 PM   #96 

Home » Discuss » Topic Forums » September 11 Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators

Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC