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Bryan Sacks Donating Member (732 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-28-07 09:05 AM
Response to Reply #11
12. Agree
But I don't like the argument that "dozens of firefighters know it's a controlled demolition, but can't say so publically". They supposedly said so to Alex Jones, who has the biggest mouth in the world. How is that consistent with national security?

I understand the reply would be, "the firefighters don't care about the silly national argument, but still don't want to run afoul of the law". I have less sympathy for that. Firefighters are getting sick and dying from the government's cover-up of the environmental damage at the WTC. They are getting stonewalled by the city and the feds when they cry for help. If there are people who know WTC 7 was in fact a controlled demolition, it will only take a few to come forward, who would become instant heroes to millions. Their lives would potentially be destroyed, of course, as well. But people are dying right now because of the government's lies. People need to come forward, or else it goes nowhere.

Or, it could be no one is 100% certain that what they know indicates CD. That seems more likely to me.
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  -BOMBSHELL: 9/11 COVER-UP UNRAVELING StrictlyRockers  Feb-28-07 03:43 AM   #0 
  - It's unravelling  CJCRANE   Feb-28-07 05:46 AM   #1 
  - Ales Jones reported on this on Coast To Coast AM last night. C2C has the largest  OmmmSweetOmmm   Feb-28-07 05:51 AM   #2 
  - Snort.  MervinFerd   Feb-28-07 05:54 AM   #3 
  - "not exactly a reliably progressive individual"  Nabia2004   Feb-28-07 06:09 AM   #4 
  - even if true, it's irrelevant in this case because Jones is not the source  rman   Feb-28-07 08:37 AM   #9 
     - His name is Marrs and he does alien stuff?  StrictlyRockers   Mar-04-07 01:23 AM   #55 
  - Its amazing to see how far people rationalise for this,  Twist_U_Up   Feb-28-07 08:02 AM   #5 
     - I'm all in with 8 2 offsuit nt  Devon77   Feb-28-07 08:04 AM   #6 
  - In other news: we have received a raise of chocolate rations, comrades  boloboffin   Feb-28-07 08:28 AM   #7 
  - And, don't -anybody- notice that the Admin is illegally funding...  MervinFerd   Feb-28-07 08:35 AM   #8 
     - Ok, let's also look into who funded al-Qaeda on 9/11.  CJCRANE   Feb-28-07 09:56 AM   #19 
     - Unfortunately, a thread about al Qaeda funding would wind up here.  MervinFerd   Feb-28-07 10:08 AM   #21 
        - Merv, the suggestion was a good one.  Contrite   Feb-28-07 04:54 PM   #53 
     - Really sad fallacy.  BuyingThyme   Feb-28-07 11:37 AM   #23 
  - Jones IS engaging in confirmation bias. This does not prove scripted response  Bryan Sacks   Feb-28-07 08:37 AM   #10 
  - weird coincidence  itsjustme   Feb-28-07 08:50 AM   #11 
  - Agree  Bryan Sacks   Feb-28-07 09:05 AM   #12 
  - Yes and we won't get the damn sources until we get an open  Beam Me Up   Feb-28-07 09:08 AM   #13 
  - How do you suggest we get any further information on this without  mhatrw   Feb-28-07 09:09 AM   #14 
     - making a big stink is just what should be done.  Bryan Sacks   Feb-28-07 09:16 AM   #15 
        - WTC-7 is not a honey pot.  mhatrw   Feb-28-07 09:24 AM   #16 
        - Here's ultimately where I think this has to go:  Bryan Sacks   Feb-28-07 09:32 AM   #17 
           - You haven't actually read the NIST document on WTC7, have you?  MervinFerd   Feb-28-07 10:15 AM   #22 
              - What "document" do you speak of, MervinFerd?  BuyingThyme   Feb-28-07 11:44 AM   #24 
              - Well, first they have to produce them  Devon77   Feb-28-07 11:52 AM   #25 
                 - You've found the interim report. Good work. + 5 pts.  MervinFerd   Feb-28-07 01:25 PM   #41 
                    - To me it looks like they are dragging their feet  Devon77   Feb-28-07 01:44 PM   #42 
                       - No, they are being careful and responsible and professional.  MervinFerd   Feb-28-07 03:45 PM   #44 
                          - here a patent but I don't know if it's the same  Devon77   Feb-28-07 03:49 PM   #46 
                          - That patent was issued in 1967. It would hardly be a secret to anyone.  MervinFerd   Feb-28-07 04:28 PM   #49 
                             - Did I say it was a secret ? you were asking me if such a thing exists. nt  Devon77   Feb-28-07 04:38 PM   #52 
                          - Yes, there is such a thing. It's "superthermite". Google it.  Contrite   Feb-28-07 04:24 PM   #48 
                             - I'll take your word for it.  MervinFerd   Feb-28-07 04:30 PM   #50 
                                - LOL. Yes, it is hard to imagine an urgent need for it myself. n/t  Contrite   Feb-28-07 04:36 PM   #51 
  - ROFL...  SidDithers   Feb-28-07 09:46 AM   #18 
  - And the irrelevancy grows...  truthpowertruth   Feb-28-07 09:59 AM   #20 
  - Why does Alex Jones keep pinning this on Jane Standley?  BuyingThyme   Feb-28-07 12:08 PM   #26 
  - Because it's about payback for the documentary, not the truth.  boloboffin   Feb-28-07 12:38 PM   #27 
  - Well, he's got the words right, but he's attributing them to the wrong  BuyingThyme   Feb-28-07 12:41 PM   #28 
  - The probability is that Standley gave the anchor his information.  boloboffin   Feb-28-07 12:57 PM   #34 
     - It's pretty clear that Standly is only familiar with the "story"  BuyingThyme   Feb-28-07 01:04 PM   #35 
     - I've seen the whole thing, thanks. n/t  boloboffin   Feb-28-07 01:09 PM   #38 
     - Standley cannot be the origin of the story, bolo, for an obvious reason  Bryan Sacks   Feb-28-07 01:07 PM   #37 
        - I'm saying she's a probable source for the announcer, not source of the story altogether.  boloboffin   Feb-28-07 01:11 PM   #39 
        - She may know WTC 7 but the report is naming Salomon Brothers building  Devon77   Feb-28-07 01:12 PM   #40 
           - WTC 7 is the Salomon Brothers building. Same thing.  boloboffin   Feb-28-07 03:40 PM   #43 
              - What if she heard only the name WTC 7 and didn't know its name?  Devon77   Feb-28-07 03:47 PM   #45 
                 - I believe she calls it the Salomon Brothers building.  boloboffin   Feb-28-07 03:49 PM   #47 
  - Good talking point.  truthpowertruth   Feb-28-07 12:41 PM   #29 
     - The truth is always the best talking point, and that's why I've used it here.  boloboffin   Feb-28-07 12:50 PM   #32 
  - I think the visual effect is overwhelming  Devon77   Feb-28-07 12:42 PM   #30 
     - I think it matters in that the false (future) information seems to have  BuyingThyme   Feb-28-07 12:45 PM   #31 
        - It could have been written by Aaron Dykes  Devon77   Feb-28-07 12:56 PM   #33 
           - As far as I remember, she does not report that at all.  BuyingThyme   Feb-28-07 01:06 PM   #36 
  - unbelievable  Twist_U_Up   Mar-01-07 06:58 AM   #54 
 

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