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66. NY Times v JFK On the 93rd Anniversary of JFK's Birth
This story is about a month old Daily Paper, but it is cromulent ;-) to this thread, and important anniversary.

Why the New York Times Deserves to Die
Jerry Policoff wrote his first essay critiquing the NY Times on the JFK case back in 1971. (James DiEugenio, Destiny Betrayed, p. 379) At the time, it had no effect. And in the following nearly four decades, the increasing barrage of criticism also went unheeded. And the worst aspect of this controversy is this: Those organizations do not seem to understand how their obstinacy led to 1.) The increasing public cynicism about both politics and the media, and 2.) The rise of alternative forms of media, especially on the Internet. That's arrogance for you.

The Times' latest outburst of arrogance forms the basis for this column. On April 14th, the New York Times published an essay, properly labeled an opinion piece, co-authored by Mark Medish and Joel McLeary. The title of the essay was Assassination Season is Open. The authors begin the piece by saying that "state-sponsored assassinations are back in season". They then marked this trend by referring to "targeted snuff jobs" from "Dubai to Dagestan, from Yemen to Wazirstan". As if somehow this had been dominating the news and American consciousness lately. Well no one has approached me lately and said, "Jim, what did you think about that political hit in Dagestan last month?" If they did, my reply would have been, "Where is Dagestan?"...

As I wrote in Part 8 of my review of Reclaiming History, the concept of "regime change" and the consequent murders that accompany it originated with the changes brought to the CIA by Allen Dulles. Which was seven years before John Kennedy even ran for president. But since the MSM had always been close with the CIA, and since Allen Dulles had actually started Operation Mockingbird-the attempt by the CIA to control the media-they were not going to readily admit this. Even if it was true. So during the 1974-75 investigations by the Church and Pike committees when the crimes of the CIA and FBI were first given heavy exposure these CIA murder plots were heavily publicized. And the CIA took a public flogging over it. Especially since, in their own Inspector General report, they admitted that they had no presidential approval for the plots to kill Fidel Castro, and that they deliberately kept them from the Kennedys. (The Assassinations, pgs 327-28) So when the NY Times says that Kennedy's 'executive action" policy targeted Fidel Castro in Cuba, this is ass backwards. And the CIA admitted it in their own report. And it is a primary document in this discussion. A primary document, which somehow, these two reporters failed to consult.

In fact, the Church Committee clearly demarcated the beginnings of these assassination plots against foreign leaders as beginning with Allen Dulles and President Eisenhower. And they blamed the eventual plot that took the life of Patrice Lumumba as being OK'd for Dulles by Eisenhower. (ibid, p. 326) Which again shows how stupid the Times is. Because, incredibly, the Times article also blames the murder of Lumumba on the Kennedys! This is so wrong as to be Orwellian. (Or, even worse, Chomskyian, since Noam Chomsky blames this one on Kennedy also.) The truth is the opposite. As more than one author has insinuated, Allen Dulles speeded up the plot against Lumumba in the interim between Eisenhower's departure and Kennedy's inauguration because he knew that Kennedy would never approve it. (John M. Blum, Years of Discord, p. 23; Jonathan Kwitny, Endless Enemies, p. 69) Therefore, Lumumba died on January 17, 1961, three days before Kennedy took office. Dulles turned out to be right. Because right after entering office, but before learning of Lumumba's death, Kennedy formulated a new policy for Lumumba's Congo. One that pretty much was a reversal of Eisenhower's. A part of this new policy was to free all political prisoners-including Lumumba. Lumumba was being held by an enemy tribe at the behest of the former mother country Belgium, which was in league with the CIA. If he had been freed, he would not have been killed. Dulles obviously knew Kennedy better than the New York Times does. Which, by the way, was opposed to Kennedy's Congo policy at the time. For another part of his plan was to oppose the breaking away of the mineral rich Katanga province from Congo. The Times supported that breakaway. Which would have helped Belgium and American investors but hurt the Congo. (Kwitny, p. 55)...

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Show #471
Original airdate: April 22, 2010
Guest: Jim Marrs / Jim DiEugenio
Topic: JFK Assassination Research

Play Part Two Interview - Jim DiEugenio

# How the newspapers have been misleading the public and why they're failing
# CIA foreign leadership assassination plots and how the news tries to pin the history on JFK
# Jim cites the assassinations of the Diem brothers, Rafael Trujillo and Patrice Lumumba
# In fact, the Kennedys had no idea until they found out about the assassinations by accident
# The New York Times has held to the "Kennedys did it" beyond the evidence
# As Jim shows, The Kennedys had no idea the CIA was plotting these murders
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  -Operation Mockingbird Devon77  Feb-27-07 08:55 AM   #0 
  - a quick google on "Church Committee "  rman   Feb-27-07 10:25 AM   #1 
  - The last good dead of Oliver Stone JFK (1991)  Devon77   Feb-27-07 12:00 PM   #2 
  - "The Men Who Killed Kennedy", The Final Chapter  rman   Feb-27-07 12:16 PM   #3 
  - The Directors cut is really good,  Devon77   Feb-27-07 12:20 PM   #4 
  - But the Tunnheim Panel found that: "Oswald was employed by CIA  defendandprotect   Dec-18-08 12:53 PM   #36 
  - No, they didn't, D&P....  SDuderstadt   Apr-03-09 10:25 PM   #40 
  - Newman and MOrley  EPIC1934   May-10-09 10:18 AM   #45 
  - He was an FBI informant for SAgent Hosty & also worked for...  NowHearThis   May-10-09 10:38 AM   #46 
     - More conjecture on your part....  SDuderstadt   May-10-09 10:46 AM   #47 
        - Not conjecture. History.  NowHearThis   May-10-09 10:51 AM   #48 
           - Why should we believe anything you say....  SDuderstadt   May-10-09 10:54 AM   #49 
              - Here's why Oswald could have been charged with treason  NowHearThis   May-10-09 11:12 AM   #50 
                 - Prove that Oswald had or gave that information and you might have something...  SDuderstadt   May-10-09 11:18 AM   #51 
                    - That's one of the main things he did while he was there  NowHearThis   May-10-09 02:34 PM   #52 
                       - and, of course...  SDuderstadt   May-10-09 04:27 PM   #53 
                          - Yes, I've researched it. Obviously, you have not.  NowHearThis   May-10-09 07:41 PM   #54 
                             - ''truther logic''  SDuderstadt   May-10-09 08:32 PM   #55 
                             - Apparently the HSCA disagrees with you....  SDuderstadt   May-11-09 12:59 AM   #56 
                                - So does the Warren Commission and the 9/11 Commission  NowHearThis   May-11-09 08:12 AM   #57 
                                   - Are you implying that any of us embrace PNAC?  SDuderstadt   May-11-09 10:27 AM   #58 
                                      - Why would you ask such a stupid question?  NowHearThis   May-11-09 10:41 AM   #59 
                                         - Because you implied it, dude...n/t  SDuderstadt   May-11-09 10:50 AM   #60 
  - It also almost toppled Sen. Arlen Specter of "Magic Bullet" fame . ..  defendandprotect   Apr-04-09 01:31 AM   #41 
  - Have things changed; I understood that the Church investigation records were never  defendandprotect   Dec-24-07 12:38 AM   #9 
     - Frank Church | Jack Anderson  MinM   Jan-23-08 03:08 PM   #20 
     - Great book.  arcadian   Dec-15-08 10:10 PM   #35 
     - Former Sen. Frank Church whose revealing hearings re CIA ...  defendandprotect   Dec-18-08 01:10 PM   #37 
     - kicking for more......  wildbilln864   Jan-25-08 06:51 PM   #21 
  - planting the official story  Devon77   Feb-27-07 01:49 PM   #5 
  - Nobody thinks this could be the case in the recent BBC debate?  Devon77   Feb-28-07 08:16 AM   #6 
  - Prouty is a good, solid source for information on the assassiantion and  defendandprotect   Dec-24-07 12:49 AM   #10 
  - Len Osanic  MinM   Jan-17-08 12:18 PM   #14 
     - Mark Lane | X | Zachary Sklar  MinM   Jan-17-08 02:04 PM   #17 
     - What's the trend in the current discussions--?  defendandprotect   Apr-04-09 01:35 AM   #42 
  - still pushing the official story  MinM   Jan-17-08 12:24 PM   #15 
  - I suggest you read Vincent Bugliosi's excellent book on the JFK assassination  SDuderstadt   Jan-17-08 01:35 PM   #16 
  - my preference is non-fiction  MinM   Jan-17-08 08:25 PM   #18 
  - Man, this is so convincing...  SDuderstadt   Jan-17-08 09:33 PM   #19 
  - Question about Vincent Bugliosi's book  Diane_nyc   Jul-11-08 02:41 PM   #22 
     - Yep...n/t  SDuderstadt   Jul-12-08 12:32 AM   #23 
  - Nice quote  KDLarsen   Oct-03-09 08:40 PM   #63 
  - The Christchurch Star explains.  Bassman66   Jul-12-08 02:08 AM   #24 
  - McAdams explains  Bassman66   Jul-12-08 02:58 AM   #26 
  - Re: McAdams  MinM   Jul-12-08 11:27 AM   #27 
     - Get them while they're young . . .  defendandprotect   Apr-04-09 01:38 AM   #43 
  - When 9/11 happened, how did they know it was al Qaeda so quickly??  MinM   Oct-03-09 08:46 AM   #61 
  - kick. n/t  wildbilln864   Dec-22-07 03:49 PM   #7 
  - nothing is real . . .  leftofthedial   Dec-23-07 10:24 AM   #8 
  - CNN Psyops  MinM   Jan-16-08 01:37 PM   #11 
  - CIA psyops agents at CNN during Kosovo war... Pincus & Daily Kos  JackRiddler   Jan-16-08 07:34 PM   #12 
     - Bookmarked.  boloboffin   Jan-16-08 08:27 PM   #13 
     - Did I miss something?  JackRiddler   Oct-04-09 06:31 PM   #64 
        - Evidently you did.  Bolo Boffin   Oct-04-09 10:25 PM   #65 
     - "I dont think its a very partisan thing to want a stable world."  Bassman66   Jul-12-08 02:25 AM   #25 
     - Gary Webb  MinM   Dec-12-08 10:07 PM   #34 
        - Great loss-!! but I think we should remember how impotant this Drug War . . .  defendandprotect   Apr-04-09 01:42 AM   #44 
  - AP's Ron Fournier To Karl Rove: "Keep Up The Fight"  MinM   Jul-14-08 11:20 PM   #28 
  - Right ...keep in mind pretty much all our news agencies were  defendandprotect   Dec-18-08 01:16 PM   #38 
  - How They Slant TV From A Z  MinM   Aug-17-08 11:55 AM   #29 
  - Kick for #5  MinM   Nov-22-08 09:32 PM   #30 
  - Great thread. The US broadcast media are basically one big propaganda function  dailykoff   Nov-23-08 12:20 AM   #31 
  - yes, sad indeed it is. nt  wildbilln864   Nov-23-08 01:53 PM   #32 
  - How the spooks took over the news - Media, News - The Independent  MinM   Dec-12-08 09:47 PM   #33 
  - Tom Braden, 92, dies; former CIA operative, 'Crossfire' creator, "Eight is Enough" author  MinM   Apr-03-09 10:16 PM   #39 
  - There's  Torn_Scorned_Ignored   Oct-03-09 05:19 PM   #62 
  - NY Times v JFK On the 93rd Anniversary of JFK's Birth  MinM   May-29-10 01:00 PM   #66 

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