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| 31. Eyewitness testimony can be very wrong, especially if the |
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event is a traumatic one. Toss in the fact that we are generally not prepared to be a witness and unconsciously reassemble events to form a coherent narrative. I've witnessed car accidents and "remembered" things happening that are physically impossible. It's not unusual to remember events out of order. The brain will try to match what it sees for the first time against things that it already knows about.
Look at some of the comments above. People here are willing to believe that a person trapped for 27 hours could think it was two days. Doesn't it make sense that the sights and sounds of that day could also be mis-remembered?
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| -one of my regular customers is ex FDNY, and was trapped for 2 days |
Ghost in the Machine |
Feb-17-07 08:30 AM |
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When they reran the original footage last year for the anniversary, |
sfexpat2000 |
Feb-17-07 08:32 AM |
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I saw some footage of a FAUX reporter describing the second plane |
Ghost in the Machine |
Feb-17-07 09:58 AM |
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MIHOP |
SpiralHawk |
Feb-17-07 08:43 AM |
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That is interesting... |
PhilipShore |
Feb-17-07 08:46 AM |
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CIA / US state is more incompetent than the Saudi state? |
rman |
Feb-17-07 09:19 AM |
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No -- that was not my point |
PhilipShore |
Feb-17-07 09:32 AM |
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Blowback happens so often they invented a word for it |
rman |
Feb-17-07 10:05 AM |
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The Saudi elite |
CJCRANE |
Nov-14-07 11:11 AM |
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Frank has got a screw loose or something... |
Tin Man |
Feb-17-07 08:52 AM |
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There you have it. |
smoogatz |
Feb-17-07 09:21 AM |
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wouldn't *you* have a screw loose? I guess you've never been through |
Ghost in the Machine |
Feb-17-07 10:05 AM |
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Sure, emotional trauma sometimes precipitates psychosis |
Tin Man |
Feb-17-07 10:25 AM |
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"And how the hell would Frank have knowledge of warheads |
Ghost in the Machine |
Feb-17-07 11:03 AM |
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It's easy to debunk an argument that is nothing more than an emotional appeal. |
greyl |
Feb-18-07 01:09 AM |
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Ghost, dont take it personally. It is our place to ask questions and make sure |
robinlynne |
Feb-17-07 11:00 AM |
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Thank you, robinlynne..... I can understand what you are saying, |
Ghost in the Machine |
Feb-17-07 11:08 AM |
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It's not a matter of being "fake" |
jberryhill |
Nov-14-07 09:56 AM |
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The last survivor of any kind was pulled out after 27 hrs |
piobair |
Feb-17-07 05:59 PM |
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Sorry, I don't believe him |
William Seger |
Nov-13-07 10:18 PM |
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It might have felt like 2 days... |
GreenEyedLefty |
Feb-17-07 10:31 AM |
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That was my reaction also. Thanks for clarifying. n/t |
truedelphi |
Nov-14-07 07:41 PM |
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A I have read similar accounts and one of most impressive is the account |
OmmmSweetOmmm |
Feb-17-07 08:53 AM |
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I have watched several obviously "approved" one hour |
truedelphi |
Nov-14-07 07:44 PM |
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I hate this stuff |
Cronquist |
Feb-17-07 08:54 AM |
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Welcome to DU Cronquist |
PhilipShore |
Feb-17-07 09:02 AM |
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You really wouldn't want to |
BeFree |
Feb-17-07 09:19 AM |
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Foolish? |
Cronquist |
Feb-17-07 09:26 AM |
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Foolish, naive, you decide |
BeFree |
Feb-17-07 09:41 AM |
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Here is what the foolish believe |
BeFree |
Feb-17-07 09:44 AM |
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I believe... this thread is going to the dungeon! |
Tin Man |
Feb-17-07 09:48 AM |
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And didn't one of the perpetrator's passport |
roody |
Feb-17-07 11:03 AM |
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You're repeating many fabrications and untruths. |
TheWraith |
Feb-17-07 11:55 AM |
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Don't forget --- Atta's passport just happend to survive the explosion intact. |
driver8 |
Feb-17-07 03:33 PM |
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No, it didn't. |
boloboffin |
Feb-17-07 03:39 PM |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Feb-17-07 07:24 PM |
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YOU remain unidentified. nt |
greyl |
Feb-18-07 12:35 AM |
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Thanks, mods! nt |
greyl |
Feb-18-07 12:46 AM |
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In at least three separate TV shows that I have watched, the narrator references the fact |
truedelphi |
Nov-14-07 07:45 PM |
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I once thought along the same lines as you do now... |
KansDem |
Feb-17-07 09:50 AM |
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"I did not have Black Ops with those towers, World Trade Center." _ Commander AWOL |
SpiralHawk |
Feb-17-07 10:40 AM |
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I've been reading about the government... |
stillcool47 |
Feb-17-07 09:38 AM |
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Welcome to DU, and you're absolutely right. |
TheWraith |
Feb-17-07 12:03 PM |
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silliness |
RedSock |
Feb-17-07 01:08 PM |
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Yes, it is silliness. |
TheWraith |
Feb-17-07 02:36 PM |
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hmmm |
mrgerbik |
Nov-13-07 11:08 PM |
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Feb-17-07 03:12 PM |
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Who said they didn't screw up? nt |
Generarth |
Feb-17-07 07:21 PM |
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blowing stuff up via covert operations isn't so complicated |
spooked911 |
Nov-14-07 10:31 AM |
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i hope he is aware of his position. |
The Witch |
Feb-17-07 09:14 AM |
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Check out "Loose Change, Second Edition" |
pocoloco |
Feb-17-07 09:20 AM |
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Don't |
rman |
Feb-17-07 10:09 AM |
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This video from a White House Press Briefing on 2/27/01 |
merh |
Feb-17-07 09:36 AM |
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What is his name? |
AngryAmish |
Feb-17-07 09:37 AM |
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Does anyone remember the story of this one fireman? |
Canuckistanian |
Feb-17-07 09:42 AM |
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That fireman appears here: |
bpcmxr |
Feb-17-07 09:55 AM |
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Thanks! |
Canuckistanian |
Feb-17-07 01:01 PM |
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Not only firemen reported that. |
Contrite |
Feb-18-07 12:48 AM |
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Eyewitness testimony can be very wrong, especially if the |
hedgehog |
Feb-17-07 10:51 AM |
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Oh, ghod. |
Codeine |
Feb-17-07 11:07 AM |
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Looks like you got your way |
BeFree |
Feb-17-07 12:56 PM |
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Censored? |
Codeine |
Feb-17-07 01:28 PM |
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Besides, |
Codeine |
Feb-17-07 01:32 PM |
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Thank you for this contribution, Ghost.... |
wildbilln864 |
Feb-17-07 12:03 PM |
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typical.... |
stillcool47 |
Feb-17-07 02:25 PM |
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Bullshit falls to the dungeon....... nt. |
MervinFerd |
Feb-17-07 06:43 PM |
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Yes, the biggest bullshit story of the 21st century n/t |
Generarth |
Feb-17-07 07:32 PM |
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Bullshit! No one was trapped for two days. |
Kingshakabobo |
Feb-17-07 08:22 PM |
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A structural engineer wrote this |
Contrite |
Feb-18-07 01:28 AM |
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Nice find Contrite! n/t |
seatnineb |
Feb-18-07 03:37 AM |
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kick ( n/t ) |
Make7 |
Nov-13-07 08:57 PM |
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If the explosives in the basement contributed to the tower collapse |
boloboffin |
Nov-13-07 09:16 PM |
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Taking out some of the core columns at the base would have |
petgoat |
Nov-14-07 09:32 AM |
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I'm watching the video suggested in a post above |
truedelphi |
Nov-14-07 08:42 PM |
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"Hearing explosions doesn't mean explosives were there" |
EVDebs |
Nov-14-07 10:41 AM |
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Explosions != explosives. |
boloboffin |
Nov-14-07 02:02 PM |
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Talk louder, I can't hear you will all that noise ! |
EVDebs |
Nov-14-07 04:12 PM |
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The same video of an explosion from 7. It proves just what it did before: nothing. n/t |
boloboffin |
Nov-14-07 05:04 PM |
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Hey same as all your blathering talkingpoints from Mackey's article ! |
EVDebs |
Nov-14-07 05:10 PM |
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Please. You still haven't explained how explosions in the basement contributed |
boloboffin |
Nov-14-07 05:18 PM |
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This core ? There's not much left of it... |
EVDebs |
Nov-14-07 05:28 PM |
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Yes. that core. |
boloboffin |
Nov-14-07 05:44 PM |
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Up to the 7th floor ? With the flashes going down the sides..every 3rd fl or so |
EVDebs |
Nov-14-07 05:48 PM |
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Yes. Up to the seventh floor. |
boloboffin |
Nov-14-07 10:42 PM |
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"I have proven that there IS core there" -- 25% of a core ? CD still probable |
EVDebs |
Nov-15-07 10:56 AM |
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Explain to me why even ONE core column should be left standing |
boloboffin |
Nov-15-07 03:21 PM |
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So the guy knew there were warheads in the basement and said nothing? |
Kingshakabobo |
Nov-14-07 09:10 AM |
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