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Woody Box Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 01:08 AM
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54. Oh yes, it undermines the official story

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2001/09/11/national/main...

Eight minutes before the crash, at 9:30 a.m. EDT, radar tracked the plane as it closed to within 30 miles of Washington. Sources say the hijacked jet continued east at a high speed toward the city, but flew several miles south of the restricted airspace around the White House.

At 9:33 the plane crossed the Capitol Beltway and took aim on its military target. But the jet, flying at more than 400 mph, was too fast and too high when it neared the Pentagon at 9:35. The hijacker-pilots were then forced to execute a difficult high-speed descending turn.

Radar shows Flight 77 did a downward spiral, turning almost a complete circle and dropping the last 7,000 feet in two-and-a-half minutes.

The steep turn was so smooth, the sources say, it's clear there was no fight for control going on. And the complex maneuver suggests the hijackers had better flying skills than many investigators first believed.

The jetliner disappeared from radar at 9:37 and less than a minute later it clipped the tops of street lights and plowed into the Pentagon at 460 mph.

Note they use the wrong time again (EDT instead of EST). But this doesn't matter anyway, cause we're are talking about minutes, not hours.



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  -The Pentagon clock problem woody b  Jun-22-04 03:12 PM   #0 
  - looks like they are one minute different from each other  pocket   Jun-22-04 03:14 PM   #1 
  - Ok  woody b   Jun-22-04 03:21 PM   #2 
     - beats me  pocket   Jun-22-04 03:23 PM   #3 
        - sorry, didn't want to hurt you :-) (nt)  woody b   Jun-22-04 03:48 PM   #5 
           - no problem :)  pocket   Jun-22-04 03:53 PM   #6 
  - We have the same clocks in my facility and none of them are accurate.  MercutioATC   Jun-22-04 03:23 PM   #4 
  - Umm  DulceDecorum   Jun-22-04 04:11 PM   #7 
     - Did I not just state that we DO have official clocks?  MercutioATC   Jun-22-04 05:02 PM   #9 
        - I guess it must be the same  DulceDecorum   Jun-22-04 06:11 PM   #11 
           - You honestly haven't encountered wall clocks that didn't tell the correct  MercutioATC   Jun-22-04 07:48 PM   #12 
              - I live in a land called  DulceDecorum   Jun-22-04 09:02 PM   #15 
  - We seem to be told a lot of different things about this one  starroute   Jun-22-04 04:45 PM   #8 
  - Fact is  woody b   Jun-22-04 05:13 PM   #10 
     - I very much doubt  DulceDecorum   Jun-22-04 08:33 PM   #13 
     - weird  k-robjoe   Jul-09-04 12:44 PM   #16 
        - P.S.  k-robjoe   Jul-09-04 02:09 PM   #17 
           - Dont forget Daylight Saving Time! So CNN aired at 10:42 EDT.  Bob Stanford   Jul-10-04 09:22 AM   #19 
              - Forgot indeed  k-robjoe   Jul-10-04 02:48 PM   #21 
                 - Danish foreign affair minister  k-robjoe   Jul-10-04 05:06 PM   #22 
  - The time is right....  PerpetualYnquisitive   Jun-22-04 08:52 PM   #14 
  - Why did the clock stop?  DulceDecorum   Jul-09-04 07:29 PM   #18 
  - You cite a company's website as proof of accuracy?  MercutioATC   Jul-10-04 10:11 AM   #20 
  - You have been stomping those clocks  DulceDecorum   Jul-11-04 01:45 AM   #23 
     - Dulce Defends The Federal Government, Sometimes  boloboffin   Jul-11-04 01:59 AM   #24 
     - Skilcraft was the lowest bidder?  DulceDecorum   Jul-14-04 12:48 AM   #77 
     - THAT'S the best you can do?  MercutioATC   Jul-11-04 03:14 AM   #25 
        - Not so fast Mercutio.........  seatnineb   Jul-11-04 11:43 AM   #27 
           - He says  objection   Jul-11-04 12:48 PM   #28 
           - late?  k-robjoe   Jul-11-04 01:04 PM   #30 
           - Mathematics  objection   Jul-11-04 01:39 PM   #32 
              - The Flight 77 black box was found????  DulceDecorum   Jul-11-04 03:32 PM   #34 
              - Where were you?  objection   Jul-11-04 05:14 PM   #46 
                 - What was extracted from the black boxes?  DulceDecorum   Jul-12-04 11:23 AM   #63 
              - Why  k-robjoe   Jul-11-04 05:04 PM   #43 
              - Clock has back up testimony!  seatnineb   Jul-13-04 09:06 AM   #70 
                 - Good work!  k-robjoe   Jul-13-04 10:01 AM   #71 
                    - Thanks Kjell......  seatnineb   Jul-13-04 11:16 AM   #72 
           - Objection, your honour.......  seatnineb   Jul-11-04 01:28 PM   #31 
              - Being a military officer he would know the distinction  objection   Jul-11-04 01:54 PM   #33 
              - Objection,Your honour.  seatnineb   Jul-11-04 03:43 PM   #36 
                 - In the context  objection   Jul-11-04 04:25 PM   #38 
                    - For my part  k-robjoe   Jul-11-04 05:10 PM   #44 
              - A five inch shell?  DulceDecorum   Jul-11-04 03:34 PM   #35 
              - This is where I should chime in  Robb   Jul-12-04 08:33 AM   #60 
           - But they weren't off by the same amount of time, they differed from  MercutioATC   Jul-11-04 09:09 PM   #50 
              - Clocks are like eyewitnesses.  Abe Linkman   Jul-12-04 09:23 AM   #61 
                 - Wow! We actually agree on something!  MercutioATC   Jul-12-04 09:46 AM   #62 
  - Let me help you out here  LARED   Jul-11-04 07:36 AM   #26 
     - There is no need to be so silly.  objection   Jul-11-04 12:54 PM   #29 
     - The movement broke when it fell off the wall?  DulceDecorum   Jul-11-04 04:42 PM   #40 
        - Then why the heck are there no scratches on the front of the clock?  LARED   Jul-11-04 04:50 PM   #41 
           - Maybe it landed on the baby. Or, the sofa. Or, maybe it's all a lie.  Abe Linkman   Jul-11-04 04:58 PM   #42 
              - inexplicable?  LARED   Jul-11-04 05:18 PM   #47 
                 - Broke? The clock broke?  DulceDecorum   Jul-12-04 12:57 PM   #64 
                    - DD, A nice bit of investigative work  LARED   Jul-12-04 05:36 PM   #67 
                       - Your legal expertise  DulceDecorum   Jul-13-04 01:13 PM   #73 
                          - DD, life is full of choices.  LARED   Jul-13-04 02:49 PM   #74 
                             - Wanna earn an easy $10,000?  DulceDecorum   Jul-14-04 12:00 PM   #81 
                                - Sure, except for one small problem  LARED   Jul-14-04 06:59 PM   #84 
                                   - Nice one, LARED  boloboffin   Jul-15-04 03:26 AM   #87 
                                      - Now what is the message there?  DulceDecorum   Jul-15-04 01:48 PM   #89 
                                         - Your post reminded me of something  LARED   Jul-15-04 04:58 PM   #90 
  - CNN: Pentagon on fire - Aired September 11, 2001 - 09:31 ET  woody b   Jul-11-04 04:24 PM   #37 
  - I think  k-robjoe   Jul-11-04 04:37 PM   #39 
  - No, kjaell, we were right  woody b   Jul-11-04 05:14 PM   #45 
     - Youre right  k-robjoe   Jul-12-04 03:39 AM   #55 
  - same sloppy interpretation?  objection   Jul-11-04 05:30 PM   #48 
  - objection rejected  woody b   Jul-12-04 12:52 AM   #52 
     - correction  woody b   Jul-12-04 12:57 AM   #53 
     - Americans: HELP ME!! (Daylight Saving Time)  Bob Stanford   Jul-12-04 06:31 AM   #56 
        - Standard Time, Daylight Saving Time, Summer Time  woody b   Jul-12-04 07:08 AM   #59 
           - You are wrong, woody. CNN aired at 10.23 EDT ...  Bob Stanford   Jul-12-04 04:41 PM   #65 
              - You want to pull my leg, don't you?  woody b   Jul-12-04 05:18 PM   #66 
                 - Is ET = EDT? woody, you miss the point  Bob Stanford   Jul-12-04 05:39 PM   #68 
                    - Bob,  k-robjoe   Jul-13-04 04:08 AM   #69 
  - When do they add the titles?  gbwarming   Jul-11-04 05:43 PM   #49 
  - What is the issue here?  ramblin_dave   Jul-11-04 10:52 PM   #51 
  - Oh yes, it undermines the official story  woody b   Jul-12-04 01:08 AM   #54 
     - complex?  objection   Jul-12-04 06:43 AM   #57 
        - You want to distract?  woody b   Jul-12-04 06:51 AM   #58 
  - Naudet Video: Pentagon fire reported at 9:31  woody b   Jul-13-04 04:03 PM   #75 
  - I have their DVD.  PerpetualYnquisitive   Jul-13-04 06:08 PM   #76 
     - Question  k-robjoe   Jul-14-04 09:49 AM   #78 
        - No clear view of the time on the T.V.  PerpetualYnquisitive   Jul-14-04 10:33 AM   #79 
        - Probably not, but...  woody b   Jul-14-04 10:36 AM   #80 
           - Well, well, well...  PerpetualYnquisitive   Jul-14-04 01:54 PM   #82 
              - So the video tells us nothing. It cuts and mixes broadcasts.  gbwarming   Jul-14-04 07:53 PM   #85 
  - Thanks, P.Y.  woody b   Jul-14-04 05:56 PM   #83 
     - Naudet video no proof  reorg   Jul-14-04 08:58 PM   #86 
        - yes  k-robjoe   Jul-15-04 08:30 AM   #88 
 

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