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Thu Dec-07-06 10:54 AM
Response to Reply #9 |
| 12. So suspicion about 9-11 culpability is "wishful thinking?" |
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I've noticed that many defenders of the official conspiracy theory (that 19 arabs armed with boxcutters were able to pierce the most secure airspace in the world) poo-poo the Truth Movement as stemming from a natural human desire to create some sense of artifical order amid the chaos.
Aside from our sworn enemies, who ON EARTH would actually *want* to believe that elements within our own government were responsible for what happened that dreadful day? What sort of comfort does that scenerio bring to ANYONE? It's a distasteful nightmare. There is no comfort at all.
Making a stink about the 9/11 deceptions and inconsistencies is not a fruitless act. If indeed any U.S. citizens are culpable here, these criminals must now understand that they'll never be able to get away with such a monumental crime and coverup ever again without being watched. That seems pretty damn important to me.
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| -The Mahablog >> Dear Conspiracy Theorists |
greyl |
Dec-07-06 12:48 AM |
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Fallacious overgeneralization. I know a few conspiracy |
petgoat |
Dec-07-06 01:30 AM |
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She's talking about “inside job” cultists. |
greyl |
Dec-07-06 02:04 AM |
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OK... |
quickesst |
Dec-07-06 05:53 AM |
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Great post quickesst |
HamdenRice |
Dec-07-06 07:06 AM |
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No, it's not a symmetric situation at all |
William Seger |
Dec-07-06 08:17 AM |
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OCTers and OCTabots are too close minded to actually review the evidence |
HamdenRice |
Dec-07-06 08:51 AM |
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Bullshit |
William Seger |
Dec-07-06 11:08 AM |
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Your rhetoric expertly proves my point -- you are the perfect example |
HamdenRice |
Dec-07-06 11:38 AM |
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Sorry you wasted your time |
William Seger |
Dec-07-06 11:59 AM |
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Ha ha ha ha !!! That's just what I predicted! I'm so way cool! |
HamdenRice |
Dec-07-06 12:09 PM |
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Oooo, maniacal laughter; very convincing |
William Seger |
Dec-07-06 01:36 PM |
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And you also failed ... |
HamdenRice |
Dec-07-06 01:49 PM |
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Yes, I did |
William Seger |
Dec-07-06 02:03 PM |
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How about one at a time |
HamdenRice |
Dec-07-06 02:14 PM |
#46 |
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How about stick to the topic, or start your own thread. |
William Seger |
Dec-07-06 03:26 PM |
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I thought you are so well informed that you would know the ISI "theory" |
HamdenRice |
Dec-07-06 04:08 PM |
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That's your "inside job" theory? Jeez.... |
William Seger |
Dec-07-06 04:40 PM |
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Now that would be bright thing for an intelligence chief to do |
HamdenRice |
Dec-07-06 04:57 PM |
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"Official theory?" "Documented facts?" |
William Seger |
Dec-07-06 07:27 PM |
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Clarify something. |
greyl |
Dec-07-06 11:11 PM |
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Well, that's the entire point isn't it? |
HamdenRice |
Dec-08-06 07:25 AM |
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Are you now, or have you ever been, an "inside job cultist"? |
William Seger |
Dec-08-06 09:17 AM |
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It's difficult to believe that those |
greyl |
Dec-08-06 11:45 AM |
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I stopped reading right there. |
frylock |
Dec-07-06 12:18 PM |
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Exhibit A in closemindedness. n/t |
mhatrw |
Dec-07-06 02:02 PM |
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Point by point |
William Seger |
Dec-08-06 10:44 AM |
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That's it, trust your government to tell you the truth |
softwarevotingtrail |
Dec-07-06 12:25 PM |
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There's huge difference between straw argument and calling |
greyl |
Dec-07-06 02:06 PM |
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Exhibit B in closemindedness. n/t |
mhatrw |
Dec-07-06 02:00 PM |
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If every.... |
quickesst |
Dec-08-06 05:57 AM |
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You want another investigation? |
William Seger |
Dec-08-06 10:50 AM |
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Of course... |
quickesst |
Dec-08-06 04:13 PM |
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try this modifcarion to your thought experiment: |
petgoat |
Dec-07-06 02:03 PM |
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"a few shaky allegations"? |
William Seger |
Dec-08-06 11:05 AM |
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OCT apologists always fall back on the |
petgoat |
Dec-08-06 11:51 AM |
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It doesn't matter how amazed you are. |
greyl |
Dec-07-06 02:00 PM |
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Of course. Do you admit the possibility that it was? n/t |
mhatrw |
Dec-07-06 02:05 PM |
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Really? & was I asking you? |
greyl |
Dec-07-06 02:08 PM |
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You & Maha appeared to be asking everyone who doubts the OCT. |
mhatrw |
Dec-07-06 02:25 PM |
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Feel free to edit your post when you find the answer in this thread. |
greyl |
Dec-07-06 02:39 PM |
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Do you think 9/11 could have been an inside job or not? |
mhatrw |
Dec-07-06 03:03 PM |
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Yes, it's possible. |
greyl |
Dec-07-06 11:15 PM |
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Yes... |
wildbilln864 |
Dec-07-06 02:07 PM |
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You're contradicting yourself. |
greyl |
Dec-07-06 02:10 PM |
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Contradicting myself? If you say so but... |
wildbilln864 |
Dec-07-06 02:13 PM |
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Yes, I say so, and |
greyl |
Dec-07-06 02:18 PM |
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well, I agree there isn't much evidence yet... |
wildbilln864 |
Dec-07-06 02:23 PM |
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Nor is there any hard evidence of the OCT. n/t |
mhatrw |
Dec-07-06 02:26 PM |
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There is an absolutely overwhelming consensus |
greyl |
Dec-07-06 02:32 PM |
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consensus.... |
wildbilln864 |
Dec-07-06 02:35 PM |
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You're missing my point. |
greyl |
Dec-07-06 02:41 PM |
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False premise -- there is not an overwhelming consensus |
HamdenRice |
Dec-07-06 02:51 PM |
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Wrong. |
greyl |
Dec-07-06 02:58 PM |
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Your own words prove you wrong |
HamdenRice |
Dec-07-06 03:07 PM |
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No, they don't. Pay attention. |
greyl |
Dec-07-06 03:26 PM |
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changing your assertions in the middle of a debate? |
HamdenRice |
Dec-07-06 04:14 PM |
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No, I don't think you ever understood them. |
greyl |
Dec-07-06 11:06 PM |
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I didn't say anything about a consensus. |
mhatrw |
Dec-07-06 03:05 PM |
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Do most lay people believe the basic aspects of the OCT? |
greyl |
Dec-07-06 11:22 PM |
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Wrong. There is no strong evidence, fake or otherwise, for the OCT. |
mhatrw |
Dec-08-06 12:24 PM |
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I don't think you understand what consensus means, nor |
greyl |
Dec-08-06 12:34 PM |
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Wrong. Read the 9/11 Commission report appendices |
William Seger |
Dec-08-06 01:54 PM |
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exactly... |
wildbilln864 |
Dec-07-06 02:32 PM |
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Not really... |
quickesst |
Dec-08-06 06:01 AM |
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You're confusing the terms "truth seeker" & "Truth-seeker" and |
greyl |
Dec-07-06 01:55 PM |
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You don't need to tell me that OTC defenders rely on |
mhatrw |
Dec-07-06 02:08 PM |
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Show me where I did what you accuse me of. nt |
greyl |
Dec-07-06 02:48 PM |
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"You don't need to tell me that CTists are rarely moved by logic." |
mhatrw |
Dec-07-06 03:07 PM |
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How is that a |
greyl |
Dec-07-06 04:00 PM |
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Let's see. By definition? n/t |
mhatrw |
Dec-08-06 12:28 PM |
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overgeneralization |
RedSock |
Dec-07-06 11:40 AM |
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Nah. |
greyl |
Dec-07-06 01:49 PM |
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Exactly, just like Kramer wasn't talking about all black people! n/t |
mhatrw |
Dec-07-06 02:09 PM |
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"How can a specified group be an overgeneralization?" |
petgoat |
Dec-07-06 02:05 PM |
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You need to consider more than the title. |
greyl |
Dec-07-06 02:21 PM |
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If I entitle a piece "Dear Christians" and follow with |
petgoat |
Dec-07-06 02:43 PM |
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If in that piece you were to begin using the term |
greyl |
Dec-07-06 02:46 PM |
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exactly, with such obvious... |
wildbilln864 |
Dec-07-06 02:49 PM |
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just as the official story cultists are incapable of discussion as well |
elias7 |
Dec-07-06 07:23 AM |
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Define your terms, who are "the cultists"? who are "they"? |
softwarevotingtrail |
Dec-07-06 08:47 AM |
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I think this is a good point |
vincent_vega_lives |
Dec-07-06 09:53 AM |
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So suspicion about 9-11 culpability is "wishful thinking?" |
softwarevotingtrail |
Dec-07-06 10:54 AM |
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It's just like Iraq with some people |
mogster |
Dec-07-06 10:02 AM |
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Conversations at Ground Zero |
vincent_vega_lives |
Dec-07-06 10:25 AM |
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Trouble is, is that it was both an inside and outside job |
savemefromdumbya |
Dec-07-06 11:15 AM |
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more bullshit! |
wildbilln864 |
Dec-07-06 01:38 PM |
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Ignoring the possibilities... |
boloboffin |
Dec-07-06 01:44 PM |
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Is that the only theory of complicity you are familiar with? |
HamdenRice |
Dec-07-06 01:52 PM |
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I'm just exploring parameters, Hamden. |
boloboffin |
Dec-07-06 01:57 PM |
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get a grip! |
wildbilln864 |
Dec-07-06 01:55 PM |
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I'm not saying anyone did! |
boloboffin |
Dec-07-06 01:57 PM |
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You are comparing this to thinking that Osama may not be |
mhatrw |
Dec-07-06 02:16 PM |
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Um, no. Thanks for misrepresenting what I'm saying, though. n/t |
boloboffin |
Dec-07-06 02:55 PM |
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Retreat! |
mhatrw |
Dec-07-06 03:14 PM |
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Not at all. |
boloboffin |
Dec-07-06 03:19 PM |
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Sure you were. n/t |
mhatrw |
Dec-07-06 03:36 PM |
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Stop covering up THE TRUTH!!!! |
silvermachine |
Dec-08-06 02:48 PM |
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I'm so happy that Maha respects me. |
mhatrw |
Dec-07-06 01:57 PM |
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I'm impressed by the outpouring of emotion. |
greyl |
Dec-07-06 02:16 PM |
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Were you impressed that blacks were offended by Michael Richards as well? |
mhatrw |
Dec-07-06 02:19 PM |
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That's irrelevant to this discussion. |
greyl |
Dec-07-06 02:30 PM |
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Grey. |
mhatrw |
Dec-07-06 03:12 PM |
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If you aren't an inside job cultist, try not to let it bother you. nt |
greyl |
Dec-07-06 03:29 PM |
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Which brings us back to Michael Richards. |
mhatrw |
Dec-07-06 03:32 PM |
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Your analogy was never close to appropriate. |
greyl |
Dec-07-06 03:58 PM |
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You only think so because the insult wasn't addressed to you. n/t |
mhatrw |
Dec-07-06 04:03 PM |
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Oh brother. Is being an inside job cultist a choice? |
greyl |
Dec-07-06 11:27 PM |
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Not the gravity. The backtracking technique. |
mhatrw |
Dec-08-06 12:21 PM |
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Your posts on this particular topic are increasingly unimpressive. |
greyl |
Dec-08-06 12:37 PM |
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Thanks for posting, greyl... |
SidDithers |
Dec-07-06 03:51 PM |
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Because this will facilitate openmindedness. |
mhatrw |
Dec-07-06 04:06 PM |
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See post 8...nt |
SidDithers |
Dec-07-06 10:52 PM |
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no sweat nt |
greyl |
Jan-29-07 06:18 AM |
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The 9/11 Truth movement is close-minded |
Anarcho-Socialist |
Dec-08-06 12:15 AM |
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Yes! Holographic Towers! I had a whole thread proving this once. |
MervinFerd |
Dec-08-06 10:27 AM |
#101 |