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petgoat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 02:58 AM
Response to Reply #87
90. What is foolish about believing that ideologues completely
innocent of practical reality, who believe that Empire creates its own reality,
who are unable to change a flat tire on their cars, who have shown themselves
to be kleptomaniacal lunatics with respect to everything they have touched....

What is foolish about thinking such a bunch, fueled by cocaine and whiskey, might
create a slightly complicated and transparent scheme?
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  -Why is it that ALL occurances on 9/11 is an anomoly? angstlessk  Nov-25-06 04:44 PM   #0 
  - Well, how many steel towers have ever been hit by airplanes  hack89   Nov-25-06 04:54 PM   #1 
  - NOTHING WAS NORMAL ON 9/11..NO ONE SINGLE SEAT  angstlessk   Nov-25-06 05:06 PM   #2 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Nov-25-06 05:59 PM   #3 
  - The hijackers were let in by the CIA....  spillthebeans   Nov-25-06 06:14 PM   #4 
     - Which hijackers?  William Seger   Nov-26-06 09:41 AM   #17 
        - the hijackers that were part of able danger and were shown on tv  spillthebeans   Nov-26-06 10:59 AM   #20 
  - WTC7 fell symmetrically into its own footprint.  petgoat   Nov-25-06 08:00 PM   #5 
  - No it did not  hack89   Nov-25-06 10:50 PM   #7 
  - If it had had the "controlled" aspects of a "controlled demolition"  mirandapriestly   Nov-26-06 02:49 AM   #10 
  - I'd say it was controlled in that  rman   Nov-26-06 05:09 AM   #13 
     - So then you agree that it looked like a non-controlled collapse  hack89   Nov-26-06 08:30 AM   #15 
     - I meant no extra safety precautions to hold in walls, etc...  mirandapriestly   Nov-26-06 12:19 PM   #32 
  - It was a symmetrical collapse: straight down into its own  petgoat   Nov-26-06 12:27 PM   #33 
     - How does symmetrical = fall in own foot print?  hack89   Nov-26-06 03:31 PM   #44 
        - one end did not collapse before the other  petgoat   Nov-26-06 03:35 PM   #46 
           - Right  William Seger   Nov-26-06 04:16 PM   #52 
           - Start on page 25  hack89   Nov-26-06 04:25 PM   #53 
              - NIST document  mmmlink   Nov-28-06 11:59 AM   #99 
                 - Care to elaborate?  hack89   Nov-28-06 08:48 PM   #113 
                    - Elaboration...  mmmlink   Nov-30-06 11:12 AM   #120 
  - Again and again  William Seger   Nov-26-06 01:36 AM   #8 
     - It's easy to win an argument in your own mind when you write the  petgoat   Nov-26-06 12:32 PM   #34 
     - Pot, kettle  William Seger   Nov-26-06 03:32 PM   #45 
        - kot, pettle  petgoat   Nov-26-06 03:44 PM   #48 
           - Please don't pull down your zipper  William Seger   Nov-26-06 04:13 PM   #51 
              - It's not my zipper, it's Dr. Eagar's. And the point is that for the  petgoat   Nov-26-06 04:30 PM   #55 
     - This video of WTC2 looks..  sagesnow   Dec-01-06 02:06 AM   #126 
  - How many steel towers have bend or broken because they were  treestar   Nov-28-06 01:41 PM   #108 
  - Video: Larry Silverstein says they "decided to pull it" (WTC7)  sagesnow   Dec-01-06 03:05 AM   #127 
  - No forensic evidence is needed  dailykoff   Nov-25-06 09:31 PM   #6 
  - That reminds me...  William Seger   Nov-26-06 01:45 AM   #9 
     - You should be able to grant it since  mirandapriestly   Nov-26-06 02:53 AM   #11 
     - How about if I use  William Seger   Nov-26-06 10:27 AM   #18 
     - U R Soitenly Right (sans a wing).Exaggeration is often a dead give-away  Nozebro   Nov-26-06 11:21 AM   #21 
     - I'm afraid those are the facts  dailykoff   Nov-26-06 11:30 AM   #23 
        - Watch this video, then  William Seger   Nov-26-06 11:55 AM   #26 
           - Thanks, I might. But you're missing the point.  dailykoff   Nov-26-06 12:01 PM   #27 
           - Nobody's yammering about the LAWZ O' FIZZICS except you.  petgoat   Nov-26-06 01:11 PM   #35 
           - Mr. Thermite and Ms. Death Star?  William Seger   Nov-26-06 02:50 PM   #40 
              - Your characterization of Dr. Jones's paper leads me to  petgoat   Nov-26-06 03:08 PM   #41 
                 - Here ya go...  William Seger   Nov-26-06 03:58 PM   #49 
                    - That quote from p. 14 hardly qualifies as the opening to the paper.  petgoat   Nov-26-06 04:26 PM   #54 
                    - You're right  William Seger   Nov-26-06 05:05 PM   #57 
                    - For future reference,...  Make7   Nov-26-06 04:30 PM   #56 
           - This video makes much more sense...  mmmlink   Nov-30-06 11:25 AM   #121 
  - How could the hijackers do what they supposedly did,  rman   Nov-26-06 05:07 AM   #12 
  - O William, william, william  canetoad   Nov-26-06 05:38 AM   #14 
  - Missed me  William Seger   Nov-26-06 09:38 AM   #16 
     - "barely qualified pilots carried out complex manoueveres."  petgoat   Nov-26-06 01:16 PM   #36 
        - Have you seen...  William Seger   Nov-26-06 04:03 PM   #50 
  - How  William Seger   Nov-26-06 10:54 AM   #19 
     - The old non-denial denial. If you could get frequent miles for each word  Nozebro   Nov-26-06 11:24 AM   #22 
     - Why do you say that?  William Seger   Nov-26-06 11:42 AM   #25 
        - Because I'm interested in the truth  Nozebro   Nov-26-06 12:08 PM   #29 
     - war games / exercises are a perfect cover  rman   Nov-26-06 11:35 AM   #24 
        - "The organizations involved are in 'war mode'.."  William Seger   Nov-26-06 12:05 PM   #28 
        - It created confusion  DoYouEverWonder   Nov-26-06 12:15 PM   #31 
        - From the 9/11 report:  William Seger   Nov-26-06 06:23 PM   #62 
           - Sounds like OJ to me. "If the blip don't fit, you must acquit!  John Q. Citizen   Nov-26-06 06:29 PM   #63 
           - it doesn't fit the facts  petgoat   Nov-26-06 06:39 PM   #65 
           - Please try to focus on the topic  William Seger   Nov-26-06 07:34 PM   #71 
              - Explain how the drills interfered with the response  petgoat   Nov-26-06 07:50 PM   #74 
                 - No sale  William Seger   Nov-26-06 09:10 PM   #76 
                    - Oh so your argument is "there's no proof of this covert op and  petgoat   Nov-26-06 10:11 PM   #78 
                    - No "argument" necessary, since you apparently have no evidence  William Seger   Nov-27-06 03:49 PM   #83 
                    - Yes, the six war games were training exercises. Is there any  petgoat   Nov-27-06 07:54 PM   #86 
                       - Jeez, what is it with you and dead horses?  William Seger   Nov-27-06 10:31 PM   #89 
                          - "there should be at least one FAA or military person saying "  petgoat   Nov-28-06 03:06 AM   #91 
                          - I think you figured him out.  MervinFerd   Nov-30-06 11:55 AM   #122 
           - Then how did the military  DoYouEverWonder   Nov-26-06 06:51 PM   #67 
              - the same C130 to PA right when Flight 93 crashed  petgoat   Nov-26-06 07:29 PM   #69 
              - I don't believe the C-130 was "scrambled"  William Seger   Nov-26-06 07:40 PM   #72 
              - It didn't 'scramble' the C130  vincent_vega_lives   Nov-28-06 03:46 PM   #109 
                 - And then the same plane was 'diverted'  DoYouEverWonder   Nov-28-06 04:08 PM   #110 
                    - Actually,  hack89   Nov-28-06 08:50 PM   #114 
        - Mike Ruppert says that as part of the war games,  petgoat   Nov-26-06 01:34 PM   #37 
        - Those darn pesky drills!  quicknthedead   Nov-26-06 05:09 PM   #58 
           - I think it looks phoney as a three dollar bill. But it is effective, that's the up  John Q. Citizen   Nov-26-06 06:09 PM   #61 
        - war games/exercises have been used for cover many, many times  Nozebro   Nov-26-06 12:11 PM   #30 
           - Again with the innuendo, Nosebro...  SidDithers   Nov-26-06 01:46 PM   #38 
              - Deleted message  Name removed   Nov-26-06 02:15 PM   #39 
              - Any innuendo is in your mind. There's certainly none in my post. But, I must  Nozebro   Nov-26-06 03:21 PM   #42 
                 - Life is tough outside the mutual admiration playpen of the  petgoat   Nov-26-06 03:23 PM   #43 
                 - P.G. I've heard there is indeed a forum/group? here at DU where a mutual  Nozebro   Nov-26-06 05:23 PM   #59 
                    - Skepticism, Science and Pseudoscience Group  petgoat   Nov-26-06 06:31 PM   #64 
                       - How does one get banned from a group? Or is it a  John Q. Citizen   Nov-26-06 06:43 PM   #66 
                       - There was oblique reference in the group to the process  petgoat   Nov-26-06 07:26 PM   #68 
                          - I visited and it seemed like they all thought they were extremely clever, and  John Q. Citizen   Nov-26-06 07:30 PM   #70 
                             - elitist  petgoat   Nov-27-06 01:34 PM   #79 
                                - Like your being able to levitate and your sincere surprise  greyl   Nov-28-06 11:30 AM   #95 
                                   - A couple of slips while fielding rabid attacks was not so bad.  petgoat   Nov-28-06 11:36 AM   #96 
                                      - You did fine.  greyl   Nov-28-06 12:35 PM   #101 
                                         - Arabs are semites and Neocons calling them Islamofascist are proposing them n/t  spillthebeans   Nov-28-06 12:55 PM   #102 
                                         - I can't make sense of that. nt  greyl   Nov-28-06 01:07 PM   #106 
                                         - Asking for an enumeration is not denying they exist. nt  petgoat   Nov-28-06 01:05 PM   #104 
                                            - At best, it's feigned ignorance; never a positive thing during honest  greyl   Nov-28-06 01:17 PM   #107 
                                               - Not feigned ignorance, simply an economical and neutral  petgoat   Nov-28-06 04:16 PM   #111 
                       - P.G. & John Q.Citizen  Nozebro   Nov-26-06 08:59 PM   #75 
                          - You'd have to pay the ticket price.  Taxloss   Nov-30-06 06:55 PM   #123 
                             - He would also still have to be a member of DU.  Make7   Nov-30-06 07:42 PM   #124 
                 - What evidence do you have, outside of your mind, that  greyl   Nov-26-06 03:37 PM   #47 
                 - greyl, where you been? Long time no see. What's new?  John Q. Citizen   Nov-26-06 05:49 PM   #60 
                 - I bet it was those same spoilsports  Anarcho-Socialist   Nov-26-06 07:43 PM   #73 
                 - Who is DemInDistress? (It looks sort of familiar, but I can't quite place it)  John Q. Citizen   Nov-26-06 09:50 PM   #77 
                    - A little TOO cute, JohnQ? nt  MervinFerd   Nov-29-06 07:40 AM   #116 
                       - Only if you consider a legitimate question as too cute, MF. So who is it?  John Q. Citizen   Nov-29-06 10:36 AM   #117 
                 - What's new?  greyl   Nov-27-06 10:25 PM   #88 
                 - Hi! Greyl! Glad to see you arrived safely!  MervinFerd   Nov-27-06 02:17 PM   #80 
                    - Welcome back!...nt  SidDithers   Nov-27-06 03:26 PM   #82 
                 - I didn't even see that reply (was it yours?)...  SidDithers   Nov-27-06 03:25 PM   #81 
  - Because it proves the ABSENCE of a conspiracy.....  MervinFerd   Nov-27-06 07:28 PM   #84 
  - Maybe a scheme of which only a lunatic could conceive  petgoat   Nov-27-06 07:50 PM   #85 
     - Or, maybe a scheme that only a FOOL would believe...  MervinFerd   Nov-27-06 08:46 PM   #87 
        - What is foolish about believing that ideologues completely  petgoat   Nov-28-06 02:58 AM   #90 
           - Because they've fucked up everything else?  MervinFerd   Nov-28-06 08:49 AM   #92 
              - these people are just front man reading a script  spillthebeans   Nov-28-06 09:04 AM   #93 
              - Doens't matter. Whoever is running the show......  MervinFerd   Nov-28-06 09:50 AM   #94 
              - "a vastly complex opeeration in complete secrecy."  petgoat   Nov-28-06 11:56 AM   #98 
                 - Mr. Goat, you are really tiresome.  MervinFerd   Nov-28-06 12:59 PM   #103 
                    - Glad to be of service. If you don't like it, go back to sleep. nt  petgoat   Nov-28-06 01:06 PM   #105 
              - So? -Somebody's- running the show.  MervinFerd   Nov-28-06 11:36 AM   #97 
              - they've fucked up everything else?  petgoat   Nov-28-06 12:10 PM   #100 
              - Perhaps intially they were not SURE they could get away with it...Jeb  angstlessk   Dec-04-06 03:54 PM   #128 
  - Amongst all this nonsense  Chomp   Nov-28-06 08:31 PM   #112 
  - Great post. nt  greyl   Nov-28-06 09:04 PM   #115 
  - Without ideological baggage? Give me a break.  petgoat   Nov-30-06 11:20 PM   #125 
  - Chomp the 'official version' would be fine if it answered the questions  angstlessk   Dec-04-06 04:08 PM   #129 
  - The absence of "anomalies" would be anomalous.  Taxloss   Nov-29-06 10:46 AM   #118 
  - That's "anomOlies". And good post.  MervinFerd   Nov-30-06 06:53 AM   #119 
  - NO..even the most perfectly planned murder give the plot away...and so  angstlessk   Dec-04-06 04:10 PM   #130 
     - That's just on TV.  MervinFerd   Dec-04-06 09:28 PM   #131 
  - They think we are really stupid  Peace is Possible   Dec-04-06 11:16 PM   #132 
 

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