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Make7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-26-06 05:47 PM
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47. Only to someone that already believes that.
I did find information that Flight 77 took off from Dulles between 8:20am and 8:21am. You seem to believe that the research done by others into the BTS and FAA aircraft registry databases actually proves something one way or the other. However, the conclusions of those other researchers based on that information leads to some obvious questions that I don't recall ever being addressed.

  • Why would actual flights be used for UA175 and UA93 and not be used for AA11 and AA77?

  • Why would the FAA registry be updated to show N334AA and N644AA as destroyed after a few months, but the registration for N612UA and N591UA wouldn't be canceled until years later?

  • Why would anyone use databases that use information supplied by the airlines themselves as proof when the radar data, ATC communications, FDR data for N644AA, and DNA evidence indicates that the information in the databases is simply incorrect and/or not adequately updated?

Nozebro wrote:
I wonder who "cooked" the databooks in '04 and who held the gun to Mineta's head & told him to get it done?

Let me get this straight. You claim that 9/11 was not a conspiracy, yet you think someone forced Mineta to "cook" the BTS database in 2004? So they weren't conspiring to cover something up?

Nozebro claimed:
Re: conspiracy. NO, 9/11 wasn't a conspiracy and boosh certainly would never say that.


Our country must also remain on the offensive against terrorism here at home. The enemy has not lost the desire or capability to attack us. Fortunately, this nation has superb professionals in law enforcement, intelligence, the military, and homeland security. These men and women are dedicating their lives, protecting us all, and they deserve our support and our thanks. They also deserve the same tools they already use to fight drug trafficking and organized crime -- so I ask you to reauthorize the Patriot Act.

It is said that prior to the attacks of September the 11th, our government failed to connect the dots of the conspiracy. We now know that two of the hijackers in the United States placed telephone calls to al Qaeda operatives overseas. But we did not know about their plans until it was too late. So to prevent another attack - based on authority given to me by the Constitution and by statute - I have authorized a terrorist surveillance program to aggressively pursue the international communications of suspected al Qaeda operatives and affiliates to and from America.

What conspiracy was he talking about then?

- Make7
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     - Looks like that aircraft crashed into the Pentagon, sir.  Nozebro   Nov-23-06 01:49 PM   #10 
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  - About that "plane" -- don't you think if AA 77 had hit the Pentagon, we'd  Nozebro   Nov-23-06 11:14 AM   #8 
  - The BTS database lists it as scheduled to depart at 8:10 am on 9/11/01.  Make7   Nov-24-06 10:38 AM   #21 
     - Thanks. When did they add that data? And, since you're such a good  Nozebro   Nov-24-06 11:10 AM   #23 
     - You've got it all backwards.  Make7   Nov-24-06 07:17 PM   #24 
        - I recall seeing a copy of the BTS records which did NOT list AA 77 as  Nozebro   Nov-24-06 08:04 PM   #26 
        - Let me try this again.  Make7   Nov-25-06 03:57 PM   #43 
           - Thanks. That helps firm up even more the truthfulness of charges that  Nozebro   Nov-25-06 05:01 PM   #44 
           - Only to someone that already believes that.  Make7   Nov-26-06 05:47 PM   #47 
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              - Yes, and that's not all of them. Yet he asks me: "what exactly is an "OCT'er"?"  Make7   Nov-26-06 06:05 PM   #48 
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        - Why do you ask, Mr. Dithers? I'm sure you feel you have a point somewhere.  Nozebro   Nov-25-06 08:59 AM   #35 
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