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Mon Nov-20-06 06:40 AM
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| 48. That's an interesting theory, but... |
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Let's say that it's true. The CIA, knowing that these guys attended an important al-Qaeda summit in Malaysia, aren't going to cease caring for them simply because they're Saudi agents. We know now the CIA knew these guys flew to the US and probably even had agents following them on the flight (I have a new timeline entry about that). At that point the CIA wouldn't simply say "whatever." Naturally, they'd keep a close eye on them and see who they meet and what they do. The CIA was well aware that the Saudis were completely untrustworthy, as this entry indicates:
1997: CIA Deems Saudi Intelligence ‘Hostile Service’ Regarding Al-Qaeda The CIA’s bin Laden unit Alec Station sends a memo to CIA Director George Tenet warning him that the Saudi intelligence service should be considered a “hostile service” with regard to al-Qaeda. This means that, at the very least, they could not be trusted. In subsequent years leading up to 9/11, US intelligence will gather intelligence confirming this assessment and even suggesting direct ties between some in Saudi intelligence and al-Qaeda. For instance, according to a top Jordanian official, at some point before 9/11 the Saudis ask Jordan intelligence to conduct a review of the Saudi intelligence agency and then provide it with a set of recommendations for improvement. Jordanians are shocked to find Osama bin Laden screen savers on some of the office computers. Additionally, the CIA will note that in some instances after sharing communications intercepts of al-Qaeda operatives with the Saudis, the suspects would sometimes change communication methods, suggesting the possibility that they had been tipped off by Saudi intelligence. (Risen, 2006, pp. 183-184)
So it's not like the CIA would just say we'll trust the Saudis completely with these fantastically important al-Qaeda moles living in the US - that would be insane. The CIA would very quickly learn about the other hijackers (since Atta, Hanjour, and others frequently visited them in San Diego, not to mention what they'd learn from monitoring the phone calls), and there's no way they couldn't learn about the 9/11 plot from even the most cursory surveillance of these guys. So if they were Saudi agents it wouldn't be any excuse to explain why the CIA didn't do something about what they must have known.
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paulthompson |
Nov-17-06 06:42 PM |
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When did they start calling it "Al Qaeda"?eom |
mirandapriestly |
Nov-18-06 02:36 AM |
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Probably... |
paulthompson |
Nov-18-06 03:45 AM |
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the fact that it was a group formed by the U.S. originally |
mirandapriestly |
Nov-18-06 11:52 AM |
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CT'ers want you to think it's an actual ORGANIZATION, but you'll notice |
Nozebro |
Nov-18-06 12:03 PM |
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It has become that |
paulthompson |
Nov-18-06 04:50 PM |
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Odd statement, IMO. As though the booshco 9/11 perps had nothing to |
Nozebro |
Nov-18-06 05:55 PM |
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Al-Qaeda was... |
paulthompson |
Nov-18-06 06:37 PM |
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What is the source for those claims? |
Nozebro |
Nov-18-06 08:24 PM |
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Asking... |
paulthompson |
Nov-19-06 07:11 PM |
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Gama'a al-Islamiya and Egyptian Islamic Jihad... |
ftr23532 |
Nov-21-06 06:41 PM |
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After the US did |
KJF |
Nov-18-06 06:25 AM |
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this part |
mirandapriestly |
Nov-18-06 11:56 AM |
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The Saudis, mostly |
KJF |
Nov-18-06 01:10 PM |
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I did not say he was a "nice guy" |
mirandapriestly |
Nov-18-06 01:29 PM |
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This and that |
KJF |
Nov-18-06 02:34 PM |
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admitting and denying |
RedSock |
Nov-18-06 04:17 PM |
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What it means |
KJF |
Nov-18-06 11:35 PM |
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The official story is that they were watching the wrong road and missed 100-200 vehicles |
DrDebug |
Nov-18-06 02:54 PM |
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Agreed |
KJF |
Nov-19-06 10:12 AM |
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No, never looked into ACE Elevator |
DrDebug |
Nov-19-06 10:47 AM |
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It was just wierd |
KJF |
Nov-20-06 02:49 AM |
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and Osama was doin the US a favour by fighting the soviets. |
seatnineb |
Nov-18-06 02:01 PM |
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Unfortunately, KJF... |
paulthompson |
Nov-18-06 04:33 PM |
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This indeed interesting.The incompetence of our administration |
planeman |
Nov-18-06 04:45 AM |
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Okay... |
paulthompson |
Nov-18-06 06:01 AM |
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excellent response! |
RedSock |
Nov-18-06 11:40 AM |
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One of many red flags, IMO |
mirandapriestly |
Nov-18-06 11:59 AM |
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I'm surprised that you would believe Democrats will be ANY different when |
Nozebro |
Nov-18-06 12:07 PM |
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well, judging from everything else |
mirandapriestly |
Nov-18-06 01:12 PM |
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News Flash... |
AZCat |
Nov-18-06 01:37 PM |
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He's already talking about "no impeachment" |
mirandapriestly |
Nov-18-06 02:34 PM |
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I think it's debatable that "off the table" means no impeachment. |
AZCat |
Nov-18-06 06:41 PM |
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There is no choice. It's just not possible for them to have a choice. |
Nozebro |
Nov-18-06 08:25 PM |
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There's always a choice. |
AZCat |
Nov-19-06 08:45 AM |
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What do the insurance companies think about that? |
Ferry Fey |
Nov-18-06 05:06 PM |
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My understanding is that the EPA could require better |
petgoat |
Nov-18-06 05:48 PM |
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Insurance doesn't cover it in lots of instances |
Ouabache |
Dec-28-06 09:48 PM |
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hmmm... |
wildbilln864 |
Dec-30-06 11:40 AM |
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I'm glad you brought this up |
LARED |
Dec-30-06 11:58 AM |
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But Bush-Cheney |
CJCRANE |
Feb-19-07 11:30 AM |
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Kick! |
wildbilln864 |
Feb-19-07 11:45 PM |
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Here's some more info |
ftr23532 |
Nov-18-06 11:24 AM |
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According to Michael Shaylor |
mirandapriestly |
Nov-18-06 03:46 PM |
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John Loftus also asserted that Aswat with working for MI6 |
ftr23532 |
Nov-18-06 05:40 PM |
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"The Myth Of Al Qaeda" |
mirandapriestly |
Nov-18-06 02:37 PM |
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Duplicate...Delete |
mirandapriestly |
Nov-18-06 02:37 PM |
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"Monitoring" or "running." Just curious. n/t |
Beam Me Up |
Nov-18-06 03:33 PM |
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Exactly. |
mirandapriestly |
Nov-19-06 12:31 AM |
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"I believe this hub is very important" Good |
medienanalyse |
Nov-19-06 10:48 AM |
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That would explain certain posts ... n/t |
Crim_n al |
Nov-19-06 08:56 PM |
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Raid |
paulthompson |
Nov-20-06 01:05 AM |
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serving Mr. Thompson and his "timeline" |
medienanalyse |
Nov-20-06 12:50 PM |
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MA... |
paulthompson |
Nov-20-06 07:44 PM |
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Wrong in some parts, Paul Thompson |
medienanalyse |
Nov-21-06 09:34 AM |
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You have... |
paulthompson |
Nov-21-06 09:38 PM |
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Which "hijackers" are you referring to? EOM |
Nozebro |
Nov-21-06 10:24 PM |
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Read the link... |
paulthompson |
Nov-22-06 05:14 AM |
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Flawed assumptions. Calling people "hijackers" isn't proof they are. |
Nozebro |
Nov-22-06 07:14 AM |
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Nozebro screened and recognized you |
medienanalyse |
Nov-22-06 11:59 AM |
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Goodbye |
paulthompson |
Nov-23-06 01:37 AM |
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watch list - ignore list |
medienanalyse |
Nov-23-06 05:39 AM |
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You hit a lot of nails on the head, M.A. -- very good post. |
Nozebro |
Nov-23-06 07:18 AM |
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Thanks for the work you do Paul/nt |
nam78_two |
Nov-23-06 02:07 PM |
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Alleged or not alleged |
Andre II |
Nov-26-06 04:20 PM |
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Adding information |
Andre II |
Nov-26-06 04:28 PM |
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There is some new stuff |
KJF |
Nov-27-06 02:04 AM |
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This is not the point |
Andre II |
Nov-30-06 05:22 PM |
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good point |
paulthompson |
Nov-30-06 10:19 PM |
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Hi Paul |
Andre II |
Dec-31-06 10:52 AM |
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The entry that says... |
KJF |
Dec-01-06 01:37 AM |
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New book claims al-Mihdhar and al-Hazmi could have been GID agents |
noise |
Nov-20-06 02:15 AM |
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Good catch! |
KJF |
Nov-20-06 02:47 AM |
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That's an interesting theory, but... |
paulthompson |
Nov-20-06 06:40 AM |
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If the Saudi's had agents in "al qaeda" then wouldn't it |
mirandapriestly |
Nov-20-06 10:39 PM |
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Actually, I recall reading a link on DU to a CNN article that mentioned |
Old and In the Way |
Nov-21-06 01:49 AM |
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and yet... |
wildbilln864 |
Nov-29-06 04:05 PM |
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darn... |
wildbilln864 |
Dec-08-06 11:18 AM |
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kick... |
wildbilln864 |
Dec-11-06 05:40 PM |
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good thread! |
wildbilln864 |
Dec-12-06 03:51 PM |
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well.... |
wildbilln864 |
Dec-23-06 10:05 AM |
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they knew it was coming... |
wildbilln864 |
Dec-26-06 07:03 PM |
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Exposure... |
wildbilln864 |
Jan-04-07 01:01 AM |
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Why didn't... |
wildbilln864 |
Jan-14-07 11:26 AM |
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kick! |
wildbilln864 |
Feb-19-07 11:06 AM |
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