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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 03:12 PM
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83. Have you ever used a zoom lense?
The pic that I posted above is from a high powered zoom lense. Lenses like this tend to flatten images and that cause a certain amount of distortion. You need to look at this event from the other sides of the building too and then compare the images. Then you can see what really happened to the building.

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  -Collapse Theory Fails Reality Check tenseconds  Sep-17-06 01:47 PM   #0 
  - But all the OCters claim  DoYouEverWonder   Sep-17-06 03:35 PM   #1 
  - Denial is not a river in Egypt....  whistle   Sep-21-06 06:13 AM   #107 
  - Better to pay attention to what TRUTH Seekers say or claim. It's not  Nozebro   Sep-21-06 11:11 AM   #124 
  - If not exactly 9.8 meters per second/  vincent_vega_lives   Sep-22-06 02:51 PM   #147 
  - a comment I made in an email in July...  tabatha   Sep-17-06 03:57 PM   #2 
  - It wasn't just the concrete that was pulverized  DoYouEverWonder   Sep-17-06 04:59 PM   #3 
  - obvious  tenseconds   Sep-17-06 05:11 PM   #6 
     - Why is that obvious?  Carefulplease   Sep-17-06 10:33 PM   #18 
        - it might very well crush and flatten everything  leftofthedial   Sep-17-06 10:53 PM   #21 
        - And so "OCTers" are wrong to say that the towers fell at g.  Carefulplease   Sep-18-06 12:40 AM   #28 
           - I think the truth is closer to the official time  leftofthedial   Sep-18-06 02:50 AM   #30 
           - obfuscation  tenseconds   Sep-18-06 09:30 AM   #35 
              - True, but it does serve their purpose - which, among other things, IS  Nozebro   Sep-18-06 10:03 AM   #37 
              - It is a bit disheartening...  Carefulplease   Sep-18-06 12:16 PM   #40 
                 - Here is the reference again...  Carefulplease   Sep-18-06 07:30 PM   #51 
        - Here is your answer . . .  Klimmer   Sep-19-06 08:40 PM   #72 
           - There are quite a few problems with Ross's analysis...  Carefulplease   Sep-22-06 12:26 AM   #128 
              - Some more problems with Ross's analysis...  Carefulplease   Sep-23-06 09:34 PM   #168 
  - I'm a little confused  salvorhardin   Sep-17-06 05:04 PM   #4 
  - omissions  tenseconds   Sep-17-06 05:16 PM   #7 
  - No, I was misunderstanding the poster  salvorhardin   Sep-17-06 05:23 PM   #9 
  - Yes....  quickesst   Sep-18-06 05:31 AM   #31 
     - Bad analogy...  Carefulplease   Sep-18-06 12:30 PM   #41 
  - Material in clouds of debris was not adding sufficient weight?  Ferry Fey   Sep-17-06 05:06 PM   #5 
     - pulverized material  tenseconds   Sep-17-06 05:19 PM   #8 
     - That makes no sense n/t  salvorhardin   Sep-17-06 05:26 PM   #10 
     - Gravity isn't a speed.  AZCat   Sep-17-06 07:34 PM   #13 
        - falling objects  tenseconds   Sep-17-06 09:35 PM   #14 
        - No shit.  AZCat   Sep-17-06 11:42 PM   #24 
           - listen up dude  tenseconds   Sep-18-06 09:25 AM   #34 
              - Actually, you did.  AZCat   Sep-18-06 08:04 PM   #52 
        - Actually Einstein suggested that gravity was something else...  whistle   Sep-21-06 06:16 AM   #108 
           - Not really. Force of attraction can be expressed by rate of acceleration.  greyl   Sep-21-06 08:13 AM   #115 
     - yes and no  tabatha   Sep-17-06 07:03 PM   #11 
        - "It did seem as though most of the material..."  Carefulplease   Sep-18-06 01:06 AM   #29 
  - Did anyone see an American Vesuvius?  DoYouEverWonder   Sep-17-06 07:18 PM   #12 
  - The energy released by the detonation of 150 tons of TNT...  Carefulplease   Sep-17-06 10:24 PM   #16 
  - what are you talking about?  tenseconds   Sep-17-06 10:50 PM   #20 
  - The towers sure as Hell did collapse...  Carefulplease   Sep-18-06 12:35 AM   #27 
     - re:gravitational energy  tenseconds   Sep-18-06 09:15 AM   #33 
        - The top floors didn't have to do this...  Carefulplease   Sep-18-06 12:40 PM   #42 
           - Why did the top of WTC2 tilt  DoYouEverWonder   Sep-19-06 08:12 AM   #53 
              - The upper section of WTC2 tilted because...  Carefulplease   Sep-19-06 01:28 PM   #56 
                 - angular momentum  tenseconds   Sep-19-06 01:45 PM   #58 
                 - I don't see any violation of any law of angular momentum...  Carefulplease   Sep-19-06 02:23 PM   #62 
                 - Here you saying  DoYouEverWonder   Sep-19-06 01:50 PM   #59 
                 - It did not overcome the momentum...  Carefulplease   Sep-19-06 02:32 PM   #63 
                    - specific action of explosives  tenseconds   Sep-19-06 06:18 PM   #69 
                    - Of course that is the smoke from the fires that is being expelled. n/t  Carefulplease   Sep-19-06 10:20 PM   #73 
                       - dark smoke  tenseconds   Sep-20-06 09:51 PM   #100 
                    - Do I understand you correctly?  DoYouEverWonder   Sep-19-06 06:33 PM   #71 
                       - That is correct...  Carefulplease   Sep-19-06 10:36 PM   #74 
                          - So the perimeter walls  DoYouEverWonder   Sep-20-06 07:50 AM   #78 
                             - Simple geometry...  Carefulplease   Sep-20-06 01:18 PM   #79 
                             - That's a great theory  DoYouEverWonder   Sep-20-06 02:25 PM   #81 
                                - I am unsure what you mean...  Carefulplease   Sep-20-06 02:51 PM   #82 
                                   - Have you ever used a zoom lense?  DoYouEverWonder   Sep-20-06 03:12 PM   #83 
                                      - How is that particular picture misleading?  Carefulplease   Sep-20-06 03:54 PM   #86 
                                         - Here's the same event from the SSE  DoYouEverWonder   Sep-20-06 04:35 PM   #91 
                                         - What does it look like to you?  Carefulplease   Sep-20-06 08:50 PM   #98 
                                         - I want you to look at the top section of the east wall  DoYouEverWonder   Sep-21-06 06:57 AM   #110 
                                         - You seem to misunderstand...  Carefulplease   Sep-22-06 12:42 AM   #129 
                             - molten iron  tenseconds   Sep-20-06 02:04 PM   #80 
                                - Thermate!  vincent_vega_lives   Sep-20-06 04:05 PM   #87 
                 - Your post is based on long-disproved premises.  Nozebro   Sep-22-06 06:53 PM   #154 
                    - This site is totally irrelevant...  Carefulplease   Sep-22-06 07:39 PM   #157 
                       - You obviously didn't read it & the author is no more of a "no-plane"  Nozebro   Sep-22-06 08:55 PM   #158 
                          - Have it your way then...  Carefulplease   Sep-22-06 09:54 PM   #160 
  - Is this science which your are basing this on? If so, could you  whistle   Sep-21-06 06:22 AM   #109 
     - I can provide references...  Carefulplease   Sep-22-06 01:30 AM   #131 
  - WTC collapse dust clouds may not have been cool  rman   Sep-19-06 12:14 PM   #54 
     - This was nothing like a pyroclastic flow...  Carefulplease   Sep-19-06 02:12 PM   #60 
     - look at the flow  tenseconds   Sep-20-06 09:53 PM   #101 
        - The issue is the temperature of the flow.  Carefulplease   Sep-22-06 01:02 AM   #130 
           - wary  tenseconds   Sep-22-06 07:44 AM   #134 
              - What makes you think that dust blew the car windows?  Carefulplease   Sep-22-06 01:08 PM   #139 
     - I don't know what blew those cars up  DoYouEverWonder   Sep-19-06 05:17 PM   #68 
        - how about  tenseconds   Sep-19-06 06:24 PM   #70 
           - There was a vast area in which debris rained down...  Carefulplease   Sep-19-06 10:43 PM   #75 
              - There was no flaming debris falling  DoYouEverWonder   Sep-20-06 06:05 AM   #77 
              - The THERMATE fell on them  vincent_vega_lives   Sep-20-06 04:07 PM   #88 
                 - Are you implying  DoYouEverWonder   Sep-20-06 04:32 PM   #90 
                    - No  vincent_vega_lives   Sep-20-06 05:07 PM   #97 
                       - thermate  tenseconds   Sep-21-06 08:44 AM   #119 
                          - Yes I do  vincent_vega_lives   Sep-21-06 10:49 AM   #123 
              - lots of  tenseconds   Sep-20-06 04:39 PM   #92 
              - dust had nothing to do with it n/t  vincent_vega_lives   Sep-21-06 05:59 AM   #103 
              - debris - plural  greyl   Sep-22-06 05:44 AM   #132 
                 - Thanks Greyl. That's quite useful. n/t  Carefulplease   Sep-22-06 01:13 PM   #140 
                    - (hoping you got the maths joke)  greyl   Sep-22-06 01:43 PM   #142 
                       - The maths joke...  Carefulplease   Sep-22-06 05:25 PM   #150 
  - It is just plain false that the Twin Towers were essentially free falling  Carefulplease   Sep-17-06 10:12 PM   #15 
  - time of collapse  RedSock   Sep-17-06 10:31 PM   #17 
  - Of course...  Carefulplease   Sep-17-06 11:51 PM   #25 
     - pancaker  tenseconds   Sep-18-06 09:50 AM   #36 
     - There probably has been...  Carefulplease   Sep-18-06 12:48 PM   #43 
     - miracle  tenseconds   Sep-18-06 10:24 AM   #38 
     - 9/11 OCT = "A Course in Miracles" and all are invited to profess their  Nozebro   Sep-18-06 10:29 AM   #39 
     - Not quite a miracle...  Carefulplease   Sep-18-06 12:59 PM   #45 
        - Even Bush has been forced to hint at the truth of CD. The wheels are  Nozebro   Sep-18-06 01:16 PM   #47 
     - The columns are the whole issue  freedom fighter jh   Sep-20-06 10:11 PM   #102 
        - The 47 center support columns were each built strong enough to hold up  whistle   Sep-21-06 07:12 AM   #111 
        - Intuition and calculations...  Carefulplease   Sep-22-06 05:55 PM   #151 
           - More on the columns  freedom fighter jh   Sep-22-06 09:40 PM   #159 
              - Welcome to DU!  AZCat   Sep-22-06 10:02 PM   #161 
              - Thanks!  freedom fighter jh   Sep-22-06 10:13 PM   #162 
              - Wellcome to DU.  Carefulplease   Sep-22-06 11:23 PM   #163 
              - Do you have a reference for Greening, Bazant, and Zhou?  freedom fighter jh   Sep-24-06 03:24 PM   #171 
                 - References...  Carefulplease   Sep-24-06 03:38 PM   #173 
                    - Thanks, Carefulplease  freedom fighter jh   Sep-24-06 07:20 PM   #176 
              - Good questions  DoYouEverWonder   Sep-23-06 06:10 AM   #164 
              - Loss in potential energy...  Carefulplease   Sep-24-06 07:49 PM   #178 
  - You now trust the conspiracy theorists over NIST? Make up your mind  John Q. Citizen   Sep-17-06 10:49 PM   #19 
  - "too many holes"  leftofthedial   Sep-17-06 11:00 PM   #22 
  - nastyNIST  tenseconds   Sep-17-06 11:06 PM   #23 
  - Of course NIST is gessing...  Carefulplease   Sep-18-06 12:27 AM   #26 
  - The you need to notify the folks at NIST  DoYouEverWonder   Sep-18-06 06:11 AM   #32 
  - Please, do not swallow everything NIST claims uncritically...  Carefulplease   Sep-18-06 01:07 PM   #46 
     - LOL  DoYouEverWonder   Sep-18-06 02:04 PM   #49 
     - NIST certainly is credible...  Carefulplease   Sep-18-06 02:56 PM   #50 
     - Just an observation  Hope2006   Sep-24-06 02:36 AM   #169 
        - Of course I can have it both ways...  Carefulplease   Sep-24-06 12:43 PM   #170 
  - Everybody Focuses on How Fast the Towers Fell  Brainster   Sep-18-06 12:53 PM   #44 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   Sep-18-06 01:21 PM   #48 
     - The point is natural pancaking would not happen at near free fall speed  rman   Sep-19-06 12:17 PM   #55 
        - What does "near free fall" means?  Carefulplease   Sep-19-06 01:36 PM   #57 
        - It shouldn't collapse completly  FoxOnTheRun   Sep-19-06 02:15 PM   #61 
        - Why not? n/t  Carefulplease   Sep-19-06 02:33 PM   #64 
           - Isn't there something like the law of the least resistance?  FoxOnTheRun   Sep-19-06 02:51 PM   #65 
              - There are two good reasons for that...  Carefulplease   Sep-19-06 03:20 PM   #66 
                 - the second reason with the crushed core columns  FoxOnTheRun   Sep-19-06 03:55 PM   #67 
                 - More like a Jenga tower than an OAK TREE.  MervinFerd   Sep-20-06 03:43 PM   #85 
                    - prior  tenseconds   Sep-20-06 04:43 PM   #93 
                       - prior  vincent_vega_lives   Sep-21-06 06:06 AM   #106 
                 - Columns  freedom fighter jh   Sep-22-06 12:00 PM   #138 
                    - Energy and column buckling...  Carefulplease   Sep-22-06 06:33 PM   #152 
                       - Horse pucky. Explosions evidence is the only rational explanation.  Nozebro   Sep-22-06 06:58 PM   #155 
                       - where and how  tenseconds   Sep-24-06 06:44 PM   #175 
                          - Vaporization of water?  AZCat   Sep-24-06 07:27 PM   #177 
        - Sure, it means that the acceleration is greater than 9m/s...  rman   Sep-20-06 03:47 AM   #76 
        - They were slowed down  vincent_vega_lives   Sep-20-06 04:10 PM   #89 
           - explain  tenseconds   Sep-20-06 04:44 PM   #94 
              - Most is not  vincent_vega_lives   Sep-20-06 05:04 PM   #96 
                 - speed  tenseconds   Sep-20-06 09:40 PM   #99 
                    - That is nonsensical  vincent_vega_lives   Sep-21-06 06:03 AM   #104 
                       - ejected  tenseconds   Sep-21-06 08:36 AM   #118 
                          - Irrelevant  vincent_vega_lives   Sep-21-06 10:46 AM   #122 
                             - re: try again  tenseconds   Sep-21-06 10:50 PM   #127 
                                - This is like arguing with a chair  vincent_vega_lives   Sep-22-06 07:41 AM   #133 
                                   - listen to William Rodriguez  tenseconds   Sep-22-06 08:12 AM   #135 
                                      - Nice attempt  vincent_vega_lives   Sep-22-06 10:31 AM   #136 
                                         - resistance  tenseconds   Sep-22-06 01:45 PM   #143 
                                            - I asked you to calculate the PE  vincent_vega_lives   Sep-22-06 01:57 PM   #144 
  - So there were explosives on EVERY floor? And a detonation system that....  MervinFerd   Sep-20-06 03:38 PM   #84 
  - I'm sure with the billions the Pentagon spends every year  DoYouEverWonder   Sep-20-06 04:57 PM   #95 
  - Money isn't the issue.  greyl   Sep-21-06 06:06 AM   #105 
     - If Timmy McVeigh could do it  DoYouEverWonder   Sep-21-06 07:44 AM   #113 
     - He couldn't do it.  greyl   Sep-21-06 08:10 AM   #114 
     - Who do you think I am  DoYouEverWonder   Sep-21-06 08:14 AM   #116 
        - I try to treat everyone on message boards as if they have a 200 IQ  greyl   Sep-21-06 08:19 AM   #117 
           - Hawking  DoYouEverWonder   Sep-21-06 09:00 AM   #120 
              - Yeah, that's what I figured.  greyl   Sep-21-06 10:10 AM   #121 
     - TImmy couldn't do it  FoxOnTheRun   Sep-21-06 11:58 AM   #126 
     - Different thing altogether.  MervinFerd   Sep-22-06 04:59 PM   #149 
        - There were multiple bombs at Oklahoma and they were inside  FoxOnTheRun   Sep-22-06 06:40 PM   #153 
     - What about the eyewitnesses like Rodriguez  FoxOnTheRun   Sep-21-06 11:57 AM   #125 
        - His testimony supports that people were burned, not bombed. nt  greyl   Sep-22-06 01:42 PM   #141 
           - He said explosion  FoxOnTheRun   Sep-22-06 03:57 PM   #148 
           - I know. However, his description fits the OCT  greyl   Sep-23-06 06:43 AM   #165 
           - Please provide the source for your statement about "bombed".  Nozebro   Sep-22-06 07:02 PM   #156 
  - It is a really clever plan and one which demolition experts have  whistle   Sep-21-06 07:40 AM   #112 
  - Kinetic energy  vincent_vega_lives   Sep-22-06 11:02 AM   #137 
  - falling one floor  tenseconds   Sep-22-06 01:59 PM   #145 
     - Free fall is acceleration, not mph  vincent_vega_lives   Sep-22-06 02:09 PM   #146 
        - Fundamental.  greyl   Sep-23-06 06:55 AM   #166 
        - close enough  tenseconds   Sep-23-06 09:00 AM   #167 
           - And the floor collapsed as one monolithic unit  Ezlivin   Sep-24-06 03:35 PM   #172 
              - Ezlivin  tenseconds   Sep-24-06 05:41 PM   #174 
  - Good post that nails the most damning evidence  mogster   Sep-25-06 02:52 AM   #179 
     - When the walls of the buildings fall away  DoYouEverWonder   Sep-25-06 04:24 AM   #180 
        - Multiple demolitions?  mogster   Sep-25-06 06:38 AM   #181 
 

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