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124. WHAT plane? FL 77? Didn't fly that day. Some1 checked BTS records

and FL 77 wasn't even scheduled to fly on 9/11. Now, I understand someone has either doctored the BTS records or else you can't locate them - but there was no FL 77 that day. Besides, the regular plane used for that particular run is a big B757, and it couldn't have fit in the tiny entry hole at the Pentagon EVEN IF it had wanted to. The "Nobody Knows What The NOZE Knows Cone" is made of aluminum & couldn't have gone thru the reinforced Pentagon outer wall.

Do some research. It's surprising how quickly you'll come to realize there's no way the OCT could even possibly be true. Totally IMpossible. 9/11 was an inside job that did NOT involve ANY airliners crashing into buildings. The whole thing was a False Flag operation blamed on a man that lives in caves in a remote part of ReallyReallyBadistan.
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  -"Loose Change" filmmakers debate Popular Mechanics debunkers CollegeDUer  Sep-11-06 02:13 PM   #0 
  - Thanks for posting this. I am listening as I type. I saw this was  John Q. Citizen   Sep-11-06 02:33 PM   #1 
  - The Loose Change Crew is doing very well. PM keeps saying.  John Q. Citizen   Sep-11-06 02:56 PM   #2 
  - So far the Loose change guys are acting jerkish....  Kingshakabobo   Sep-11-06 03:13 PM   #3 
  - I agree. The kids are alright!  kerstin   Sep-11-06 03:30 PM   #5 
  - Yep, they (PM) are reduced to defending their argument by  John Q. Citizen   Sep-11-06 03:40 PM   #7 
  - Typical RW "debate" style. I hope they reach(ed) a large audience. nt  Nozebro   Sep-11-06 05:19 PM   #10 
  - Your reply is false.  greyl   Sep-13-06 03:54 PM   #125 
     - a shame all they could do was to use the "experts say" argument instead  John Q. Citizen   Sep-13-06 11:01 PM   #149 
        - You want to talk about looking bad....  Ka hrnt   Sep-14-06 10:20 PM   #176 
        - And the dishonoring-our-fallen-heroes argument  dailykoff   Sep-14-06 11:57 PM   #180 
  - Popular Mechanics guys just keep harping on the evidence  whistle   Sep-16-06 03:30 PM   #190 
  - Yep. David and Goliath is what I heard.  dailykoff   Sep-14-06 11:54 PM   #179 
  - I would hope that it is pointed out that  kerstin   Sep-11-06 03:15 PM   #4 
  - Bingo!  whistle   Sep-16-06 03:34 PM   #192 
  - Bermas is Such a Jerk!  Brainster   Sep-11-06 03:32 PM   #6 
  - That was great. Calling the guy out on his lie was awesome.. Now if we  John Q. Citizen   Sep-11-06 03:43 PM   #8 
  - Your kidding???  Nabia2004   Sep-11-06 05:03 PM   #9 
  - He's not kidding, he's just fuming upset that people don't buy the BS  John Q. Citizen   Sep-12-06 07:16 PM   #11 
  - I'd call him a "total fucking asshole"  greyl   Sep-13-06 04:12 PM   #131 
  - There's an intellectual argument. Bravo, So rational and "skeptical."  John Q. Citizen   Sep-13-06 11:02 PM   #150 
     - It wasn't designed to be an argument.  greyl   Sep-14-06 12:00 AM   #152 
        - That should have read "skepticish"  John Q. Citizen   Sep-14-06 12:04 AM   #154 
  - Can you please explain what that has to do with this? Thanks  whistle   Sep-16-06 03:35 PM   #193 
  - Makers of Loose Change and Popular Mechanics writer debate 9/11  MyPetRock   Sep-13-06 01:57 PM   #12 
  - I hate to say it  StClone   Sep-13-06 01:57 PM   #13 
  - I can't grasp how this could have been fabricated.  MyPetRock   Sep-13-06 01:57 PM   #14 
  - I for one have many questions  StClone   Sep-13-06 01:57 PM   #15 
  - That's ridiculous.  Blackthorn   Sep-13-06 01:57 PM   #19 
  - "That's all that counts"  WilliamPitt   Sep-13-06 01:57 PM   #22 
  - Will Pitt...see post 41 and tell me what you see, please. nt  DemInDistress   Sep-13-06 01:57 PM   #54 
  - Not necessarily...  Blackthorn   Sep-13-06 01:58 PM   #61 
     - You're free to your opinion  BestCenter   Sep-13-06 01:58 PM   #90 
     - Holy shit...another one!  rinsd   Sep-13-06 08:37 PM   #141 
  - conspiracy theorists engage in just as much group think  Exiled in America   Sep-13-06 01:57 PM   #28 
  - What are you talking about?  porkrind   Sep-13-06 01:58 PM   #100 
  - Why not? But, that's not the point. I don't say that the govenment,  davidwparker   Sep-13-06 01:57 PM   #18 
  - These people's families have been interviewed.  MyPetRock   Sep-13-06 01:57 PM   #24 
     - Yes, their loved ones are dead.  mhatrw   Sep-13-06 01:57 PM   #57 
  - How what could be fabricated? The Debate? Your comment makes it  John Q. Citizen   Sep-13-06 01:58 PM   #65 
  - Why would they have to still be alive? n/t  Chemical Bill   Sep-14-06 02:30 PM   #172 
  - I agree  Astrad   Sep-13-06 01:57 PM   #17 
  - Of course they sound like anti-Evolutionists.  Bornaginhooligan   Sep-13-06 01:57 PM   #27 
  - Could be because 911 "conspiracy theorists"  MadHound   Sep-13-06 01:57 PM   #29 
     - Hmm, no they don't.  Bornaginhooligan   Sep-13-06 01:57 PM   #32 
     - And then there are many people like myself  MadHound   Sep-13-06 01:57 PM   #37 
        - Yeah, yeah.  Bornaginhooligan   Sep-13-06 01:57 PM   #38 
        - Yes, but the vast majority of creationists don't have a chemistry degree  MadHound   Sep-13-06 01:57 PM   #44 
        - But you're BLATANTLY ignoring the fact that  BestCenter   Sep-13-06 01:58 PM   #91 
        - Who exactly argues like this?  mhatrw   Sep-13-06 01:57 PM   #58 
        - The troubl is, pointing out the flaws and inconsistencies in the  Taxloss   Sep-13-06 01:57 PM   #39 
           - Then tell us what it is, if it isn't M/LIHOP. EOM  Nozebro   Sep-13-06 01:57 PM   #41 
           - A terrorist attack facilitated by governmental paralysis. n/t  Taxloss   Sep-13-06 01:57 PM   #42 
              - What is that supposed to mean? (gov'tmental paralysis) n/t  Nozebro   Sep-13-06 01:57 PM   #45 
                 - Command paralysis. Nobody knew what to do.  Taxloss   Sep-13-06 01:57 PM   #48 
                    - Okey dokey, so you're a variation on the incompetence/negl. hang-out  Nozebro   Sep-13-06 01:57 PM   #49 
                    - Sure there was that.  Jim4Wes   Sep-13-06 01:57 PM   #52 
                    - no, but because of specific warnings  tabatha   Sep-13-06 01:58 PM   #87 
                       - You're talking incompetence/negligence  Jim4Wes   Sep-13-06 01:58 PM   #89 
                    - So how come nobody has been fired or disciplined as a result of 9/11?  mhatrw   Sep-13-06 01:58 PM   #59 
                    - Because it was a systemic failure.  Taxloss   Sep-13-06 01:58 PM   #69 
                       - The same exact rationale works if it was an inside job at the very top.  mhatrw   Sep-13-06 01:58 PM   #71 
                          - First, I think that BushCo may well be morally capable of  Taxloss   Sep-13-06 01:58 PM   #73 
                          - I still don't get it.  mhatrw   Sep-13-06 01:58 PM   #104 
                             - Hmm.  Taxloss   Sep-13-06 03:15 PM   #120 
                                - Yes, on that we most certainly agree.  mhatrw   Sep-13-06 06:45 PM   #138 
                          - Maybe it's a required project for a course they're taking? Homework?  Nozebro   Sep-13-06 01:58 PM   #81 
                             - More like a hobby.  Taxloss   Sep-13-06 01:58 PM   #85 
                                - Well said.  BestCenter   Sep-13-06 01:58 PM   #92 
                                   - That's terribly naive. Read & study more & I'm sure you'll change.  Nozebro   Sep-13-06 03:42 PM   #122 
                                      - Yes. All it does is to reinforce the ideas that  BestCenter   Sep-14-06 01:22 AM   #160 
                    - Finally...  Ka hrnt   Sep-13-06 08:51 PM   #143 
           - The thing is we're not just looking at "flaws and inconsistencies ",  MadHound   Sep-13-06 01:57 PM   #43 
              - That won't stop them from asking. It's the Big Lie technique at work.  John Q. Citizen   Sep-13-06 01:58 PM   #76 
              - You're a fine citizen, John Q. Extremely well put. EOM  Nozebro   Sep-13-06 03:43 PM   #123 
                 - I 2nd that and would like to add that any independent thinkers who  whistle   Sep-16-06 03:45 PM   #194 
              - And Make7 showed that you were wrong about steel. NT  OldSiouxWarrior   Sep-14-06 10:50 AM   #164 
     - Oh come on, most MIHOPers learned physics from Road Runner cartoons.  Taxloss   Sep-13-06 01:57 PM   #33 
        - Most, maybe, maybe not.  MadHound   Sep-13-06 01:57 PM   #40 
        - The assumptions you have made in your question appear to be incorrect.  Make7   Sep-13-06 01:57 PM   #51 
           - You are trying to compare apples and oranges here  MadHound   Sep-13-06 01:58 PM   #62 
              - Would this be an apple or an orange?  Make7   Sep-13-06 01:58 PM   #79 
              - Why is it that  BestCenter   Sep-13-06 01:58 PM   #99 
        - "Road Runner cartoons" is a good description of how some CTers...  Kingshakabobo   Sep-13-06 01:57 PM   #47 
           - If you have some credible evidence that FL 77 crashed, bring it on.  Nozebro   Sep-13-06 01:57 PM   #50 
              - Where is the plane and its passengers?  Taxloss   Sep-13-06 01:58 PM   #67 
                 - WHAT plane? FL 77? Didn't fly that day. Some1 checked BTS records  Nozebro   Sep-13-06 03:52 PM   #124 
                    - No planes were involved AT ALL?  Taxloss   Sep-13-06 03:55 PM   #126 
                       - You are misquoting what I said, which was that no planes CRASHED  Nozebro   Sep-13-06 04:15 PM   #132 
                          - Believing actual planes were used = Rush listener?  Taxloss   Sep-13-06 04:49 PM   #137 
                          - If I was to do a send-up  Anarcho-Socialist   Sep-13-06 08:17 PM   #139 
                          - .  Jim4Wes   Sep-14-06 12:19 PM   #169 
                          - Ooooo-dee-lolly  rinsd   Sep-13-06 08:33 PM   #140 
                             - Discredit 9/11 truthers  hpot   Sep-14-06 11:48 AM   #167 
  - Kill the messenger. PM takes on a few teenagers.  mhatrw   Sep-13-06 01:57 PM   #56 
  - The kids did alright. PM had to resort to name calling, ie  John Q. Citizen   Sep-13-06 01:58 PM   #63 
  - Yeah, I was expecting a "stern talking to" ...  Sir Jeffrey   Sep-14-06 12:44 PM   #170 
  - Well this dutchman says it  FoxOnTheRun   Sep-13-06 01:58 PM   #103 
  - just got finished seeing that and came here to post.  davidwparker   Sep-13-06 01:57 PM   #16 
  - I, for one, am glad the "Loose Changers" got eviscerated. . .  DinahMoeHum   Sep-13-06 01:57 PM   #20 
  - Funny you should mention the JFK assasination  MadHound   Sep-13-06 01:57 PM   #21 
  - Did I say I believe in the official version? No, I did not. . .  DinahMoeHum   Sep-13-06 01:57 PM   #25 
  - What words am I putting in your mouth?  MadHound   Sep-13-06 01:57 PM   #26 
  - Some more research...  Jim4Wes   Sep-13-06 01:57 PM   #46 
  - I agree!  Joanne98   Sep-13-06 01:57 PM   #55 
  - yes cause you know, never in the history of mankind have a group  dionysus   Sep-13-06 01:57 PM   #23 
  - Nice strawman. n/t  Taxloss   Sep-13-06 01:57 PM   #31 
  - I, for one, will not reject facts because someone labels them...  Junkdrawer   Sep-13-06 01:57 PM   #35 
  - Actually, facts are the components of a theory, not the same thing.  Taxloss   Sep-13-06 01:57 PM   #36 
  - "Never analyze with logic what can be dismissed with aphorisms."  mhatrw   Sep-13-06 01:58 PM   #60 
  - First Keith O's commentary, now this.  Taxloss   Sep-13-06 01:57 PM   #30 
  - ROFL Taxloss  seasonedblue   Sep-13-06 01:57 PM   #34 
  - here's a couple more facts...  DemInDistress   Sep-13-06 01:57 PM   #53 
     - If there were explosives, why bother with the planes? n/t  Taxloss   Sep-13-06 01:58 PM   #66 
     - Do some research. You might be surprised at what you can learn.  Nozebro   Sep-13-06 01:58 PM   #68 
     - Oh, please, what a cop-out. Answer the question, or is that what you're  Taxloss   Sep-13-06 01:58 PM   #70 
     - My my, you get testy when you have no argument.......nt  Kingshakabobo   Sep-13-06 01:58 PM   #77 
     - Because you would never be able to explain how terrorists  mhatrw   Sep-13-06 01:58 PM   #72 
     - No explosives were planted.  Taxloss   Sep-13-06 01:58 PM   #74 
     - Because it was a weekend, and the people were assumed to be  mhatrw   Sep-13-06 01:58 PM   #95 
     - Assumed by EVERYBODY?  BestCenter   Sep-13-06 01:58 PM   #96 
     - Who comes to the WTC on weekends?  mhatrw   Sep-13-06 01:58 PM   #97 
        - So, you're saying all the security guards never work on weekends?  BestCenter   Sep-13-06 01:58 PM   #98 
        - So a few maintenance and security workers saw some temporary  mhatrw   Sep-13-06 01:58 PM   #102 
           - No, but  BestCenter   Sep-14-06 01:18 AM   #158 
        - Lots of people.  Will Scoffield   Sep-15-06 02:08 AM   #181 
           - Even in your OCT, the WTC buildings were "military/intel" centers. You  Nozebro   Sep-15-06 11:04 AM   #185 
              - Perhaps you are confused about the subject matter of my post  Will Scoffield   Sep-15-06 07:50 PM   #187 
     - Why didn't the charges go off in the fire?  rinsd   Sep-13-06 09:00 PM   #144 
     - Bombs in the elevator shafts  hpot   Sep-13-06 01:58 PM   #106 
        - A few questions.  Will Scoffield   Sep-15-06 02:15 AM   #182 
        - Psst. Still waiting.  Will Scoffield   Sep-16-06 04:29 AM   #188 
     - Especially building 7  FoxOnTheRun   Sep-13-06 01:58 PM   #75 
     - 6 days before 911 Marvin Bush head of security had the bomb  DemInDistress   Sep-13-06 01:58 PM   #80 
        - Afraid the bomb-sniffing dogs would get spooked when the planes came?  Nozebro   Sep-13-06 01:58 PM   #83 
        - But there WERE bomb-sniffing dogs in the towers on 9/11!  BestCenter   Sep-13-06 01:58 PM   #93 
           - Those poor dogs...  Wednesdays   Sep-14-06 12:20 AM   #156 
              - Now, that's just impossible  BestCenter   Sep-14-06 01:19 AM   #159 
              - But seriously,  BestCenter   Sep-14-06 01:30 AM   #161 
        - That is not true.  Will Scoffield   Sep-15-06 02:17 AM   #183 
     - you can't detonate explosives without cover.. and by chance  DemInDistress   Sep-13-06 01:58 PM   #78 
        - It's very hard to tell exactly what I'm looking at.  Taxloss   Sep-13-06 01:58 PM   #82 
        - your looking at the upper floors of WT2..far above the impact  DemInDistress   Sep-13-06 01:58 PM   #88 
        - There must be dozens of videos that are not zoomed in that close,  Taxloss   Sep-13-06 01:58 PM   #101 
        - Step back and look at the complete picture  hpot   Sep-13-06 01:58 PM   #105 
           - So let me get this straight  rinsd   Sep-13-06 08:48 PM   #142 
              - Not all explosives react the same to fire  hpot   Sep-13-06 11:22 PM   #151 
                 - So which explosives can withstand the sustained heat?  rinsd   Sep-14-06 10:19 AM   #163 
                    - Many explosives can withstand sustained heat without detonation  hpot   Sep-14-06 11:27 AM   #165 
                       - Sorry my man. Capt. Thermite is full of it.  rinsd   Sep-14-06 11:41 AM   #166 
                          - Ingredients are important  hpot   Sep-14-06 12:50 PM   #171 
                             - Sigh.....  rinsd   Sep-14-06 02:45 PM   #173 
                                - Cheers  hpot   Sep-14-06 03:08 PM   #174 
                                   - Cheers to you as well  rinsd   Sep-14-06 04:06 PM   #175 
        - There are none so blind they cannot ssSPIN. EOM  Nozebro   Sep-13-06 01:58 PM   #84 
           - wow...what a profound statement.. care to make some sense? nt  DemInDistress   Sep-13-06 01:58 PM   #86 
     - THAT's your explosive charge evidence?  BestCenter   Sep-13-06 01:58 PM   #94 
  - I thought they debated yesterday. That's when i heard the show. Is this  John Q. Citizen   Sep-13-06 01:58 PM   #64 
  - 9/11 Debate: Loose Change Filmmakers vs. Popular Mechanics Editors  pberq   Sep-13-06 02:00 PM   #107 
  - Video links:  greyl   Sep-13-06 02:00 PM   #108 
  - Thanks for posting those links -  pberq   Sep-13-06 02:00 PM   #110 
  - Conspiracy theory is as American as apple pie. The use of the term to  John Q. Citizen   Sep-13-06 02:00 PM   #109 
  - It's got to be the latter. They're smart & trained in forensics. They  Nozebro   Sep-13-06 03:58 PM   #128 
  - another example that exposes the PM guys as frauds  pberq   Sep-13-06 02:00 PM   #111 
     - Yep. PM Not answering the question but instead  John Q. Citizen   Sep-13-06 02:00 PM   #112 
     - Not so at all.  greyl   Sep-13-06 02:00 PM   #113 
     - Cheney let the thing hit the pentagon  FoxOnTheRun   Sep-13-06 02:00 PM   #114 
     - Bermas and Avery were arguing that an airliner did NOT hit  greyl   Sep-13-06 02:05 PM   #115 
        - Didn't the PM guy change the subject, too?  FoxOnTheRun   Sep-13-06 02:10 PM   #116 
        - No. nt  greyl   Sep-13-06 03:01 PM   #118 
        - Saying that no plane should have hit the Pentagon wasn't changing  Nozebro   Sep-13-06 04:08 PM   #130 
           - If not changing the subject, it was providing a clue that  greyl   Sep-13-06 04:17 PM   #133 
        - The FACT is, no airliner crashed at the Pentagon. Maybe, maybe a  Nozebro   Sep-13-06 03:55 PM   #127 
           - The confidence with which you make a statement doesn't  greyl   Sep-13-06 04:19 PM   #134 
           - He certainly knows what happened, but won't tell you  FoxOnTheRun   Sep-13-06 04:33 PM   #136 
     - 9/11 Panel - Norman Mineta's Testimony  Sven77   Sep-13-06 02:56 PM   #117 
        - And? nt  greyl   Sep-13-06 03:03 PM   #119 
     - Surprisingly weak, weren't they? I hope a lot of people heard/saw the  Nozebro   Sep-13-06 04:04 PM   #129 
        - Can you add anything to your ad hominem attack?  greyl   Sep-13-06 04:20 PM   #135 
  - The first contradictions:  greyl   Sep-13-06 03:40 PM   #121 
  - Nope.  Ka hrnt   Sep-13-06 09:24 PM   #146 
  - Is that their POV?  boloboffin   Sep-13-06 09:46 PM   #148 
     - Yes, yes it does. EOM.  Ka hrnt   Sep-14-06 10:21 PM   #177 
  - Sadly I must agree...  zforce   Sep-14-06 12:18 AM   #155 
  - This is hilarious.  Ka hrnt   Sep-13-06 09:12 PM   #145 
  - Yeah, that was an odd moment. It must have been like when Avery  greyl   Sep-14-06 12:03 AM   #153 
     - Yeah.  Ka hrnt   Sep-14-06 10:24 PM   #178 
  - Yellow Journalism  Sven77   Sep-13-06 09:40 PM   #147 
  - I think you are taking things out of context  Jim4Wes   Sep-14-06 11:50 AM   #168 
  - 9/11 Myths contributor Vs. an asshole DJ on radio. :  greyl   Sep-14-06 12:27 AM   #157 
  - To bad DN picked the weaker one of the 9-11 truth crowd  rman   Sep-14-06 03:26 AM   #162 
  - Would Paul Thompson ever defend Loose Change? nt  greyl   Sep-15-06 02:33 AM   #184 
  - No. He's part of the fake opposition. Just a milder version of an OCT'er  Nozebro   Sep-15-06 11:08 AM   #186 
  - Email her and request it, she'll respond to her viewers I am sure  whistle   Sep-16-06 03:32 PM   #191 
  - This was great, watching now, thanks for posting  whistle   Sep-16-06 03:28 PM   #189 
 

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