| 11. He's not kidding, he's just fuming upset that people don't buy the BS |
| -"Loose Change" filmmakers debate Popular Mechanics debunkers |
CollegeDUer |
Sep-11-06 02:13 PM |
#0 |
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Thanks for posting this. I am listening as I type. I saw this was |
John Q. Citizen |
Sep-11-06 02:33 PM |
#1 |
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The Loose Change Crew is doing very well. PM keeps saying. |
John Q. Citizen |
Sep-11-06 02:56 PM |
#2 |
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So far the Loose change guys are acting jerkish.... |
Kingshakabobo |
Sep-11-06 03:13 PM |
#3 |
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I agree. The kids are alright! |
kerstin |
Sep-11-06 03:30 PM |
#5 |
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Yep, they (PM) are reduced to defending their argument by |
John Q. Citizen |
Sep-11-06 03:40 PM |
#7 |
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Typical RW "debate" style. I hope they reach(ed) a large audience. nt |
Nozebro |
Sep-11-06 05:19 PM |
#10 |
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Your reply is false. |
greyl |
Sep-13-06 03:54 PM |
#125 |
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a shame all they could do was to use the "experts say" argument instead |
John Q. Citizen |
Sep-13-06 11:01 PM |
#149 |
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You want to talk about looking bad.... |
Ka hrnt |
Sep-14-06 10:20 PM |
#176 |
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And the dishonoring-our-fallen-heroes argument |
dailykoff |
Sep-14-06 11:57 PM |
#180 |
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Popular Mechanics guys just keep harping on the evidence |
whistle |
Sep-16-06 03:30 PM |
#190 |
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Yep. David and Goliath is what I heard. |
dailykoff |
Sep-14-06 11:54 PM |
#179 |
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I would hope that it is pointed out that |
kerstin |
Sep-11-06 03:15 PM |
#4 |
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Bingo! |
whistle |
Sep-16-06 03:34 PM |
#192 |
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Bermas is Such a Jerk! |
Brainster |
Sep-11-06 03:32 PM |
#6 |
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That was great. Calling the guy out on his lie was awesome.. Now if we |
John Q. Citizen |
Sep-11-06 03:43 PM |
#8 |
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Your kidding??? |
Nabia2004 |
Sep-11-06 05:03 PM |
#9 |
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He's not kidding, he's just fuming upset that people don't buy the BS |
John Q. Citizen |
Sep-12-06 07:16 PM |
#11 |
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I'd call him a "total fucking asshole" |
greyl |
Sep-13-06 04:12 PM |
#131 |
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There's an intellectual argument. Bravo, So rational and "skeptical." |
John Q. Citizen |
Sep-13-06 11:02 PM |
#150 |
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It wasn't designed to be an argument. |
greyl |
Sep-14-06 12:00 AM |
#152 |
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That should have read "skepticish" |
John Q. Citizen |
Sep-14-06 12:04 AM |
#154 |
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Can you please explain what that has to do with this? Thanks |
whistle |
Sep-16-06 03:35 PM |
#193 |
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Makers of Loose Change and Popular Mechanics writer debate 9/11 |
MyPetRock |
Sep-13-06 01:57 PM |
#12 |
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I hate to say it |
StClone |
Sep-13-06 01:57 PM |
#13 |
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I can't grasp how this could have been fabricated. |
MyPetRock |
Sep-13-06 01:57 PM |
#14 |
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I for one have many questions |
StClone |
Sep-13-06 01:57 PM |
#15 |
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That's ridiculous. |
Blackthorn |
Sep-13-06 01:57 PM |
#19 |
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"That's all that counts" |
WilliamPitt |
Sep-13-06 01:57 PM |
#22 |
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Will Pitt...see post 41 and tell me what you see, please. nt |
DemInDistress |
Sep-13-06 01:57 PM |
#54 |
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Not necessarily... |
Blackthorn |
Sep-13-06 01:58 PM |
#61 |
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You're free to your opinion |
BestCenter |
Sep-13-06 01:58 PM |
#90 |
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Holy shit...another one! |
rinsd |
Sep-13-06 08:37 PM |
#141 |
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conspiracy theorists engage in just as much group think |
Exiled in America |
Sep-13-06 01:57 PM |
#28 |
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What are you talking about? |
porkrind |
Sep-13-06 01:58 PM |
#100 |
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Why not? But, that's not the point. I don't say that the govenment, |
davidwparker |
Sep-13-06 01:57 PM |
#18 |
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These people's families have been interviewed. |
MyPetRock |
Sep-13-06 01:57 PM |
#24 |
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Yes, their loved ones are dead. |
mhatrw |
Sep-13-06 01:57 PM |
#57 |
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How what could be fabricated? The Debate? Your comment makes it |
John Q. Citizen |
Sep-13-06 01:58 PM |
#65 |
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Why would they have to still be alive? n/t |
Chemical Bill |
Sep-14-06 02:30 PM |
#172 |
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I agree |
Astrad |
Sep-13-06 01:57 PM |
#17 |
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Of course they sound like anti-Evolutionists. |
Bornaginhooligan |
Sep-13-06 01:57 PM |
#27 |
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Could be because 911 "conspiracy theorists" |
MadHound |
Sep-13-06 01:57 PM |
#29 |
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Hmm, no they don't. |
Bornaginhooligan |
Sep-13-06 01:57 PM |
#32 |
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And then there are many people like myself |
MadHound |
Sep-13-06 01:57 PM |
#37 |
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Yeah, yeah. |
Bornaginhooligan |
Sep-13-06 01:57 PM |
#38 |
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Yes, but the vast majority of creationists don't have a chemistry degree |
MadHound |
Sep-13-06 01:57 PM |
#44 |
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But you're BLATANTLY ignoring the fact that |
BestCenter |
Sep-13-06 01:58 PM |
#91 |
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Who exactly argues like this? |
mhatrw |
Sep-13-06 01:57 PM |
#58 |
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The troubl is, pointing out the flaws and inconsistencies in the |
Taxloss |
Sep-13-06 01:57 PM |
#39 |
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Then tell us what it is, if it isn't M/LIHOP. EOM |
Nozebro |
Sep-13-06 01:57 PM |
#41 |
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A terrorist attack facilitated by governmental paralysis. n/t |
Taxloss |
Sep-13-06 01:57 PM |
#42 |
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What is that supposed to mean? (gov'tmental paralysis) n/t |
Nozebro |
Sep-13-06 01:57 PM |
#45 |
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Command paralysis. Nobody knew what to do. |
Taxloss |
Sep-13-06 01:57 PM |
#48 |
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Okey dokey, so you're a variation on the incompetence/negl. hang-out |
Nozebro |
Sep-13-06 01:57 PM |
#49 |
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Sure there was that. |
Jim4Wes |
Sep-13-06 01:57 PM |
#52 |
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no, but because of specific warnings |
tabatha |
Sep-13-06 01:58 PM |
#87 |
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You're talking incompetence/negligence |
Jim4Wes |
Sep-13-06 01:58 PM |
#89 |
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So how come nobody has been fired or disciplined as a result of 9/11? |
mhatrw |
Sep-13-06 01:58 PM |
#59 |
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Because it was a systemic failure. |
Taxloss |
Sep-13-06 01:58 PM |
#69 |
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The same exact rationale works if it was an inside job at the very top. |
mhatrw |
Sep-13-06 01:58 PM |
#71 |
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First, I think that BushCo may well be morally capable of |
Taxloss |
Sep-13-06 01:58 PM |
#73 |
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I still don't get it. |
mhatrw |
Sep-13-06 01:58 PM |
#104 |
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Hmm. |
Taxloss |
Sep-13-06 03:15 PM |
#120 |
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Yes, on that we most certainly agree. |
mhatrw |
Sep-13-06 06:45 PM |
#138 |
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Maybe it's a required project for a course they're taking? Homework? |
Nozebro |
Sep-13-06 01:58 PM |
#81 |
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More like a hobby. |
Taxloss |
Sep-13-06 01:58 PM |
#85 |
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Well said. |
BestCenter |
Sep-13-06 01:58 PM |
#92 |
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That's terribly naive. Read & study more & I'm sure you'll change. |
Nozebro |
Sep-13-06 03:42 PM |
#122 |
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Yes. All it does is to reinforce the ideas that |
BestCenter |
Sep-14-06 01:22 AM |
#160 |
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Finally... |
Ka hrnt |
Sep-13-06 08:51 PM |
#143 |
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The thing is we're not just looking at "flaws and inconsistencies ", |
MadHound |
Sep-13-06 01:57 PM |
#43 |
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That won't stop them from asking. It's the Big Lie technique at work. |
John Q. Citizen |
Sep-13-06 01:58 PM |
#76 |
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You're a fine citizen, John Q. Extremely well put. EOM |
Nozebro |
Sep-13-06 03:43 PM |
#123 |
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I 2nd that and would like to add that any independent thinkers who |
whistle |
Sep-16-06 03:45 PM |
#194 |
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And Make7 showed that you were wrong about steel. NT |
OldSiouxWarrior |
Sep-14-06 10:50 AM |
#164 |
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Oh come on, most MIHOPers learned physics from Road Runner cartoons. |
Taxloss |
Sep-13-06 01:57 PM |
#33 |
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Most, maybe, maybe not. |
MadHound |
Sep-13-06 01:57 PM |
#40 |
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The assumptions you have made in your question appear to be incorrect. |
Make7 |
Sep-13-06 01:57 PM |
#51 |
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You are trying to compare apples and oranges here |
MadHound |
Sep-13-06 01:58 PM |
#62 |
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Would this be an apple or an orange? |
Make7 |
Sep-13-06 01:58 PM |
#79 |
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Why is it that |
BestCenter |
Sep-13-06 01:58 PM |
#99 |
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"Road Runner cartoons" is a good description of how some CTers... |
Kingshakabobo |
Sep-13-06 01:57 PM |
#47 |
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If you have some credible evidence that FL 77 crashed, bring it on. |
Nozebro |
Sep-13-06 01:57 PM |
#50 |
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Where is the plane and its passengers? |
Taxloss |
Sep-13-06 01:58 PM |
#67 |
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WHAT plane? FL 77? Didn't fly that day. Some1 checked BTS records |
Nozebro |
Sep-13-06 03:52 PM |
#124 |
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No planes were involved AT ALL? |
Taxloss |
Sep-13-06 03:55 PM |
#126 |
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You are misquoting what I said, which was that no planes CRASHED |
Nozebro |
Sep-13-06 04:15 PM |
#132 |
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Believing actual planes were used = Rush listener? |
Taxloss |
Sep-13-06 04:49 PM |
#137 |
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If I was to do a send-up |
Anarcho-Socialist |
Sep-13-06 08:17 PM |
#139 |
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. |
Jim4Wes |
Sep-14-06 12:19 PM |
#169 |
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Ooooo-dee-lolly |
rinsd |
Sep-13-06 08:33 PM |
#140 |
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Discredit 9/11 truthers |
hpot |
Sep-14-06 11:48 AM |
#167 |
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Kill the messenger. PM takes on a few teenagers. |
mhatrw |
Sep-13-06 01:57 PM |
#56 |
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The kids did alright. PM had to resort to name calling, ie |
John Q. Citizen |
Sep-13-06 01:58 PM |
#63 |
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Yeah, I was expecting a "stern talking to" ... |
Sir Jeffrey |
Sep-14-06 12:44 PM |
#170 |
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Well this dutchman says it |
FoxOnTheRun |
Sep-13-06 01:58 PM |
#103 |
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just got finished seeing that and came here to post. |
davidwparker |
Sep-13-06 01:57 PM |
#16 |
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I, for one, am glad the "Loose Changers" got eviscerated. . . |
DinahMoeHum |
Sep-13-06 01:57 PM |
#20 |
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Funny you should mention the JFK assasination |
MadHound |
Sep-13-06 01:57 PM |
#21 |
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Did I say I believe in the official version? No, I did not. . . |
DinahMoeHum |
Sep-13-06 01:57 PM |
#25 |
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What words am I putting in your mouth? |
MadHound |
Sep-13-06 01:57 PM |
#26 |
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Some more research... |
Jim4Wes |
Sep-13-06 01:57 PM |
#46 |
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I agree! |
Joanne98 |
Sep-13-06 01:57 PM |
#55 |
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yes cause you know, never in the history of mankind have a group |
dionysus |
Sep-13-06 01:57 PM |
#23 |
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Nice strawman. n/t |
Taxloss |
Sep-13-06 01:57 PM |
#31 |
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I, for one, will not reject facts because someone labels them... |
Junkdrawer |
Sep-13-06 01:57 PM |
#35 |
| -
Actually, facts are the components of a theory, not the same thing. |
Taxloss |
Sep-13-06 01:57 PM |
#36 |
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"Never analyze with logic what can be dismissed with aphorisms." |
mhatrw |
Sep-13-06 01:58 PM |
#60 |
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First Keith O's commentary, now this. |
Taxloss |
Sep-13-06 01:57 PM |
#30 |
| -
ROFL Taxloss |
seasonedblue |
Sep-13-06 01:57 PM |
#34 |
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here's a couple more facts... |
DemInDistress |
Sep-13-06 01:57 PM |
#53 |
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If there were explosives, why bother with the planes? n/t |
Taxloss |
Sep-13-06 01:58 PM |
#66 |
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Do some research. You might be surprised at what you can learn. |
Nozebro |
Sep-13-06 01:58 PM |
#68 |
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Oh, please, what a cop-out. Answer the question, or is that what you're |
Taxloss |
Sep-13-06 01:58 PM |
#70 |
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My my, you get testy when you have no argument.......nt |
Kingshakabobo |
Sep-13-06 01:58 PM |
#77 |
| -
Because you would never be able to explain how terrorists |
mhatrw |
Sep-13-06 01:58 PM |
#72 |
| -
No explosives were planted. |
Taxloss |
Sep-13-06 01:58 PM |
#74 |
| -
Because it was a weekend, and the people were assumed to be |
mhatrw |
Sep-13-06 01:58 PM |
#95 |
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Assumed by EVERYBODY? |
BestCenter |
Sep-13-06 01:58 PM |
#96 |
| -
Who comes to the WTC on weekends? |
mhatrw |
Sep-13-06 01:58 PM |
#97 |
| -
So, you're saying all the security guards never work on weekends? |
BestCenter |
Sep-13-06 01:58 PM |
#98 |
| -
So a few maintenance and security workers saw some temporary |
mhatrw |
Sep-13-06 01:58 PM |
#102 |
| -
No, but |
BestCenter |
Sep-14-06 01:18 AM |
#158 |
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Lots of people. |
Will Scoffield |
Sep-15-06 02:08 AM |
#181 |
| -
Even in your OCT, the WTC buildings were "military/intel" centers. You |
Nozebro |
Sep-15-06 11:04 AM |
#185 |
| -
Perhaps you are confused about the subject matter of my post |
Will Scoffield |
Sep-15-06 07:50 PM |
#187 |
| -
Why didn't the charges go off in the fire? |
rinsd |
Sep-13-06 09:00 PM |
#144 |
| -
Bombs in the elevator shafts |
hpot |
Sep-13-06 01:58 PM |
#106 |
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A few questions. |
Will Scoffield |
Sep-15-06 02:15 AM |
#182 |
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Psst. Still waiting. |
Will Scoffield |
Sep-16-06 04:29 AM |
#188 |
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Especially building 7 |
FoxOnTheRun |
Sep-13-06 01:58 PM |
#75 |
| -
6 days before 911 Marvin Bush head of security had the bomb |
DemInDistress |
Sep-13-06 01:58 PM |
#80 |
| -
Afraid the bomb-sniffing dogs would get spooked when the planes came? |
Nozebro |
Sep-13-06 01:58 PM |
#83 |
| -
But there WERE bomb-sniffing dogs in the towers on 9/11! |
BestCenter |
Sep-13-06 01:58 PM |
#93 |
| -
Those poor dogs... |
Wednesdays |
Sep-14-06 12:20 AM |
#156 |
| -
Now, that's just impossible |
BestCenter |
Sep-14-06 01:19 AM |
#159 |
| -
But seriously, |
BestCenter |
Sep-14-06 01:30 AM |
#161 |
| -
That is not true. |
Will Scoffield |
Sep-15-06 02:17 AM |
#183 |
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you can't detonate explosives without cover.. and by chance |
DemInDistress |
Sep-13-06 01:58 PM |
#78 |
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It's very hard to tell exactly what I'm looking at. |
Taxloss |
Sep-13-06 01:58 PM |
#82 |
| -
your looking at the upper floors of WT2..far above the impact |
DemInDistress |
Sep-13-06 01:58 PM |
#88 |
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There must be dozens of videos that are not zoomed in that close, |
Taxloss |
Sep-13-06 01:58 PM |
#101 |
| -
Step back and look at the complete picture |
hpot |
Sep-13-06 01:58 PM |
#105 |
| -
So let me get this straight |
rinsd |
Sep-13-06 08:48 PM |
#142 |
| -
Not all explosives react the same to fire |
hpot |
Sep-13-06 11:22 PM |
#151 |
| -
So which explosives can withstand the sustained heat? |
rinsd |
Sep-14-06 10:19 AM |
#163 |
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Many explosives can withstand sustained heat without detonation |
hpot |
Sep-14-06 11:27 AM |
#165 |
| -
Sorry my man. Capt. Thermite is full of it. |
rinsd |
Sep-14-06 11:41 AM |
#166 |
| -
Ingredients are important |
hpot |
Sep-14-06 12:50 PM |
#171 |
| -
Sigh..... |
rinsd |
Sep-14-06 02:45 PM |
#173 |
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Cheers |
hpot |
Sep-14-06 03:08 PM |
#174 |
| -
Cheers to you as well |
rinsd |
Sep-14-06 04:06 PM |
#175 |
| -
There are none so blind they cannot ssSPIN. EOM |
Nozebro |
Sep-13-06 01:58 PM |
#84 |
| -
wow...what a profound statement.. care to make some sense? nt |
DemInDistress |
Sep-13-06 01:58 PM |
#86 |
| -
THAT's your explosive charge evidence? |
BestCenter |
Sep-13-06 01:58 PM |
#94 |
| -
I thought they debated yesterday. That's when i heard the show. Is this |
John Q. Citizen |
Sep-13-06 01:58 PM |
#64 |
| -
9/11 Debate: Loose Change Filmmakers vs. Popular Mechanics Editors |
pberq |
Sep-13-06 02:00 PM |
#107 |
| -
Video links: |
greyl |
Sep-13-06 02:00 PM |
#108 |
| -
Thanks for posting those links - |
pberq |
Sep-13-06 02:00 PM |
#110 |
| -
Conspiracy theory is as American as apple pie. The use of the term to |
John Q. Citizen |
Sep-13-06 02:00 PM |
#109 |
| -
It's got to be the latter. They're smart & trained in forensics. They |
Nozebro |
Sep-13-06 03:58 PM |
#128 |
| -
another example that exposes the PM guys as frauds |
pberq |
Sep-13-06 02:00 PM |
#111 |
| -
Yep. PM Not answering the question but instead |
John Q. Citizen |
Sep-13-06 02:00 PM |
#112 |
| -
Not so at all. |
greyl |
Sep-13-06 02:00 PM |
#113 |
| -
Cheney let the thing hit the pentagon |
FoxOnTheRun |
Sep-13-06 02:00 PM |
#114 |
| -
Bermas and Avery were arguing that an airliner did NOT hit |
greyl |
Sep-13-06 02:05 PM |
#115 |
| -
Didn't the PM guy change the subject, too? |
FoxOnTheRun |
Sep-13-06 02:10 PM |
#116 |
| -
No. nt |
greyl |
Sep-13-06 03:01 PM |
#118 |
| -
Saying that no plane should have hit the Pentagon wasn't changing |
Nozebro |
Sep-13-06 04:08 PM |
#130 |
| -
If not changing the subject, it was providing a clue that |
greyl |
Sep-13-06 04:17 PM |
#133 |
| -
The FACT is, no airliner crashed at the Pentagon. Maybe, maybe a |
Nozebro |
Sep-13-06 03:55 PM |
#127 |
| -
The confidence with which you make a statement doesn't |
greyl |
Sep-13-06 04:19 PM |
#134 |
| -
He certainly knows what happened, but won't tell you |
FoxOnTheRun |
Sep-13-06 04:33 PM |
#136 |
| -
9/11 Panel - Norman Mineta's Testimony |
Sven77 |
Sep-13-06 02:56 PM |
#117 |
| -
And? nt |
greyl |
Sep-13-06 03:03 PM |
#119 |
| -
Surprisingly weak, weren't they? I hope a lot of people heard/saw the |
Nozebro |
Sep-13-06 04:04 PM |
#129 |
| -
Can you add anything to your ad hominem attack? |
greyl |
Sep-13-06 04:20 PM |
#135 |
| -
The first contradictions: |
greyl |
Sep-13-06 03:40 PM |
#121 |
| -
Nope. |
Ka hrnt |
Sep-13-06 09:24 PM |
#146 |
| -
Is that their POV? |
boloboffin |
Sep-13-06 09:46 PM |
#148 |
| -
Yes, yes it does. EOM. |
Ka hrnt |
Sep-14-06 10:21 PM |
#177 |
| -
Sadly I must agree... |
zforce |
Sep-14-06 12:18 AM |
#155 |
| -
This is hilarious. |
Ka hrnt |
Sep-13-06 09:12 PM |
#145 |
| -
Yeah, that was an odd moment. It must have been like when Avery |
greyl |
Sep-14-06 12:03 AM |
#153 |
| -
Yeah. |
Ka hrnt |
Sep-14-06 10:24 PM |
#178 |
| -
Yellow Journalism |
Sven77 |
Sep-13-06 09:40 PM |
#147 |
| -
I think you are taking things out of context |
Jim4Wes |
Sep-14-06 11:50 AM |
#168 |
| -
9/11 Myths contributor Vs. an asshole DJ on radio. : |
greyl |
Sep-14-06 12:27 AM |
#157 |
| -
To bad DN picked the weaker one of the 9-11 truth crowd |
rman |
Sep-14-06 03:26 AM |
#162 |
| -
Would Paul Thompson ever defend Loose Change? nt |
greyl |
Sep-15-06 02:33 AM |
#184 |
| -
No. He's part of the fake opposition. Just a milder version of an OCT'er |
Nozebro |
Sep-15-06 11:08 AM |
#186 |
| -
Email her and request it, she'll respond to her viewers I am sure |
whistle |
Sep-16-06 03:32 PM |
#191 |
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This was great, watching now, thanks for posting |
whistle |
Sep-16-06 03:28 PM |
#189 |
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