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25. Did I say I believe in the official version? No, I did not. . .
So don't put words in my mouth, OK ??????


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  -"Loose Change" filmmakers debate Popular Mechanics debunkers CollegeDUer  Sep-11-06 02:13 PM   #0 
  - Thanks for posting this. I am listening as I type. I saw this was  John Q. Citizen   Sep-11-06 02:33 PM   #1 
  - The Loose Change Crew is doing very well. PM keeps saying.  John Q. Citizen   Sep-11-06 02:56 PM   #2 
  - So far the Loose change guys are acting jerkish....  Kingshakabobo   Sep-11-06 03:13 PM   #3 
  - I agree. The kids are alright!  kerstin   Sep-11-06 03:30 PM   #5 
  - Yep, they (PM) are reduced to defending their argument by  John Q. Citizen   Sep-11-06 03:40 PM   #7 
  - Typical RW "debate" style. I hope they reach(ed) a large audience. nt  Nozebro   Sep-11-06 05:19 PM   #10 
  - Your reply is false.  greyl   Sep-13-06 03:54 PM   #125 
     - a shame all they could do was to use the "experts say" argument instead  John Q. Citizen   Sep-13-06 11:01 PM   #149 
        - You want to talk about looking bad....  Ka hrnt   Sep-14-06 10:20 PM   #176 
        - And the dishonoring-our-fallen-heroes argument  dailykoff   Sep-14-06 11:57 PM   #180 
  - Popular Mechanics guys just keep harping on the evidence  whistle   Sep-16-06 03:30 PM   #190 
  - Yep. David and Goliath is what I heard.  dailykoff   Sep-14-06 11:54 PM   #179 
  - I would hope that it is pointed out that  kerstin   Sep-11-06 03:15 PM   #4 
  - Bingo!  whistle   Sep-16-06 03:34 PM   #192 
  - Bermas is Such a Jerk!  Brainster   Sep-11-06 03:32 PM   #6 
  - That was great. Calling the guy out on his lie was awesome.. Now if we  John Q. Citizen   Sep-11-06 03:43 PM   #8 
  - Your kidding???  Nabia2004   Sep-11-06 05:03 PM   #9 
  - He's not kidding, he's just fuming upset that people don't buy the BS  John Q. Citizen   Sep-12-06 07:16 PM   #11 
  - I'd call him a "total fucking asshole"  greyl   Sep-13-06 04:12 PM   #131 
  - There's an intellectual argument. Bravo, So rational and "skeptical."  John Q. Citizen   Sep-13-06 11:02 PM   #150 
     - It wasn't designed to be an argument.  greyl   Sep-14-06 12:00 AM   #152 
        - That should have read "skepticish"  John Q. Citizen   Sep-14-06 12:04 AM   #154 
  - Can you please explain what that has to do with this? Thanks  whistle   Sep-16-06 03:35 PM   #193 
  - Makers of Loose Change and Popular Mechanics writer debate 9/11  MyPetRock   Sep-13-06 01:57 PM   #12 
  - I hate to say it  StClone   Sep-13-06 01:57 PM   #13 
  - I can't grasp how this could have been fabricated.  MyPetRock   Sep-13-06 01:57 PM   #14 
  - I for one have many questions  StClone   Sep-13-06 01:57 PM   #15 
  - That's ridiculous.  Blackthorn   Sep-13-06 01:57 PM   #19 
  - "That's all that counts"  WilliamPitt   Sep-13-06 01:57 PM   #22 
  - Will Pitt...see post 41 and tell me what you see, please. nt  DemInDistress   Sep-13-06 01:57 PM   #54 
  - Not necessarily...  Blackthorn   Sep-13-06 01:58 PM   #61 
     - You're free to your opinion  BestCenter   Sep-13-06 01:58 PM   #90 
     - Holy shit...another one!  rinsd   Sep-13-06 08:37 PM   #141 
  - conspiracy theorists engage in just as much group think  Exiled in America   Sep-13-06 01:57 PM   #28 
  - What are you talking about?  porkrind   Sep-13-06 01:58 PM   #100 
  - Why not? But, that's not the point. I don't say that the govenment,  davidwparker   Sep-13-06 01:57 PM   #18 
  - These people's families have been interviewed.  MyPetRock   Sep-13-06 01:57 PM   #24 
     - Yes, their loved ones are dead.  mhatrw   Sep-13-06 01:57 PM   #57 
  - How what could be fabricated? The Debate? Your comment makes it  John Q. Citizen   Sep-13-06 01:58 PM   #65 
  - Why would they have to still be alive? n/t  Chemical Bill   Sep-14-06 02:30 PM   #172 
  - I agree  Astrad   Sep-13-06 01:57 PM   #17 
  - Of course they sound like anti-Evolutionists.  Bornaginhooligan   Sep-13-06 01:57 PM   #27 
  - Could be because 911 "conspiracy theorists"  MadHound   Sep-13-06 01:57 PM   #29 
     - Hmm, no they don't.  Bornaginhooligan   Sep-13-06 01:57 PM   #32 
     - And then there are many people like myself  MadHound   Sep-13-06 01:57 PM   #37 
        - Yeah, yeah.  Bornaginhooligan   Sep-13-06 01:57 PM   #38 
        - Yes, but the vast majority of creationists don't have a chemistry degree  MadHound   Sep-13-06 01:57 PM   #44 
        - But you're BLATANTLY ignoring the fact that  BestCenter   Sep-13-06 01:58 PM   #91 
        - Who exactly argues like this?  mhatrw   Sep-13-06 01:57 PM   #58 
        - The troubl is, pointing out the flaws and inconsistencies in the  Taxloss   Sep-13-06 01:57 PM   #39 
           - Then tell us what it is, if it isn't M/LIHOP. EOM  Nozebro   Sep-13-06 01:57 PM   #41 
           - A terrorist attack facilitated by governmental paralysis. n/t  Taxloss   Sep-13-06 01:57 PM   #42 
              - What is that supposed to mean? (gov'tmental paralysis) n/t  Nozebro   Sep-13-06 01:57 PM   #45 
                 - Command paralysis. Nobody knew what to do.  Taxloss   Sep-13-06 01:57 PM   #48 
                    - Okey dokey, so you're a variation on the incompetence/negl. hang-out  Nozebro   Sep-13-06 01:57 PM   #49 
                    - Sure there was that.  Jim4Wes   Sep-13-06 01:57 PM   #52 
                    - no, but because of specific warnings  tabatha   Sep-13-06 01:58 PM   #87 
                       - You're talking incompetence/negligence  Jim4Wes   Sep-13-06 01:58 PM   #89 
                    - So how come nobody has been fired or disciplined as a result of 9/11?  mhatrw   Sep-13-06 01:58 PM   #59 
                    - Because it was a systemic failure.  Taxloss   Sep-13-06 01:58 PM   #69 
                       - The same exact rationale works if it was an inside job at the very top.  mhatrw   Sep-13-06 01:58 PM   #71 
                          - First, I think that BushCo may well be morally capable of  Taxloss   Sep-13-06 01:58 PM   #73 
                          - I still don't get it.  mhatrw   Sep-13-06 01:58 PM   #104 
                             - Hmm.  Taxloss   Sep-13-06 03:15 PM   #120 
                                - Yes, on that we most certainly agree.  mhatrw   Sep-13-06 06:45 PM   #138 
                          - Maybe it's a required project for a course they're taking? Homework?  Nozebro   Sep-13-06 01:58 PM   #81 
                             - More like a hobby.  Taxloss   Sep-13-06 01:58 PM   #85 
                                - Well said.  BestCenter   Sep-13-06 01:58 PM   #92 
                                   - That's terribly naive. Read & study more & I'm sure you'll change.  Nozebro   Sep-13-06 03:42 PM   #122 
                                      - Yes. All it does is to reinforce the ideas that  BestCenter   Sep-14-06 01:22 AM   #160 
                    - Finally...  Ka hrnt   Sep-13-06 08:51 PM   #143 
           - The thing is we're not just looking at "flaws and inconsistencies ",  MadHound   Sep-13-06 01:57 PM   #43 
              - That won't stop them from asking. It's the Big Lie technique at work.  John Q. Citizen   Sep-13-06 01:58 PM   #76 
              - You're a fine citizen, John Q. Extremely well put. EOM  Nozebro   Sep-13-06 03:43 PM   #123 
                 - I 2nd that and would like to add that any independent thinkers who  whistle   Sep-16-06 03:45 PM   #194 
              - And Make7 showed that you were wrong about steel. NT  OldSiouxWarrior   Sep-14-06 10:50 AM   #164 
     - Oh come on, most MIHOPers learned physics from Road Runner cartoons.  Taxloss   Sep-13-06 01:57 PM   #33 
        - Most, maybe, maybe not.  MadHound   Sep-13-06 01:57 PM   #40 
        - The assumptions you have made in your question appear to be incorrect.  Make7   Sep-13-06 01:57 PM   #51 
           - You are trying to compare apples and oranges here  MadHound   Sep-13-06 01:58 PM   #62 
              - Would this be an apple or an orange?  Make7   Sep-13-06 01:58 PM   #79 
              - Why is it that  BestCenter   Sep-13-06 01:58 PM   #99 
        - "Road Runner cartoons" is a good description of how some CTers...  Kingshakabobo   Sep-13-06 01:57 PM   #47 
           - If you have some credible evidence that FL 77 crashed, bring it on.  Nozebro   Sep-13-06 01:57 PM   #50 
              - Where is the plane and its passengers?  Taxloss   Sep-13-06 01:58 PM   #67 
                 - WHAT plane? FL 77? Didn't fly that day. Some1 checked BTS records  Nozebro   Sep-13-06 03:52 PM   #124 
                    - No planes were involved AT ALL?  Taxloss   Sep-13-06 03:55 PM   #126 
                       - You are misquoting what I said, which was that no planes CRASHED  Nozebro   Sep-13-06 04:15 PM   #132 
                          - Believing actual planes were used = Rush listener?  Taxloss   Sep-13-06 04:49 PM   #137 
                          - If I was to do a send-up  Anarcho-Socialist   Sep-13-06 08:17 PM   #139 
                          - .  Jim4Wes   Sep-14-06 12:19 PM   #169 
                          - Ooooo-dee-lolly  rinsd   Sep-13-06 08:33 PM   #140 
                             - Discredit 9/11 truthers  hpot   Sep-14-06 11:48 AM   #167 
  - Kill the messenger. PM takes on a few teenagers.  mhatrw   Sep-13-06 01:57 PM   #56 
  - The kids did alright. PM had to resort to name calling, ie  John Q. Citizen   Sep-13-06 01:58 PM   #63 
  - Yeah, I was expecting a "stern talking to" ...  Sir Jeffrey   Sep-14-06 12:44 PM   #170 
  - Well this dutchman says it  FoxOnTheRun   Sep-13-06 01:58 PM   #103 
  - just got finished seeing that and came here to post.  davidwparker   Sep-13-06 01:57 PM   #16 
  - I, for one, am glad the "Loose Changers" got eviscerated. . .  DinahMoeHum   Sep-13-06 01:57 PM   #20 
  - Funny you should mention the JFK assasination  MadHound   Sep-13-06 01:57 PM   #21 
  - Did I say I believe in the official version? No, I did not. . .  DinahMoeHum   Sep-13-06 01:57 PM   #25 
  - What words am I putting in your mouth?  MadHound   Sep-13-06 01:57 PM   #26 
  - Some more research...  Jim4Wes   Sep-13-06 01:57 PM   #46 
  - I agree!  Joanne98   Sep-13-06 01:57 PM   #55 
  - yes cause you know, never in the history of mankind have a group  dionysus   Sep-13-06 01:57 PM   #23 
  - Nice strawman. n/t  Taxloss   Sep-13-06 01:57 PM   #31 
  - I, for one, will not reject facts because someone labels them...  Junkdrawer   Sep-13-06 01:57 PM   #35 
  - Actually, facts are the components of a theory, not the same thing.  Taxloss   Sep-13-06 01:57 PM   #36 
  - "Never analyze with logic what can be dismissed with aphorisms."  mhatrw   Sep-13-06 01:58 PM   #60 
  - First Keith O's commentary, now this.  Taxloss   Sep-13-06 01:57 PM   #30 
  - ROFL Taxloss  seasonedblue   Sep-13-06 01:57 PM   #34 
  - here's a couple more facts...  DemInDistress   Sep-13-06 01:57 PM   #53 
     - If there were explosives, why bother with the planes? n/t  Taxloss   Sep-13-06 01:58 PM   #66 
     - Do some research. You might be surprised at what you can learn.  Nozebro   Sep-13-06 01:58 PM   #68 
     - Oh, please, what a cop-out. Answer the question, or is that what you're  Taxloss   Sep-13-06 01:58 PM   #70 
     - My my, you get testy when you have no argument.......nt  Kingshakabobo   Sep-13-06 01:58 PM   #77 
     - Because you would never be able to explain how terrorists  mhatrw   Sep-13-06 01:58 PM   #72 
     - No explosives were planted.  Taxloss   Sep-13-06 01:58 PM   #74 
     - Because it was a weekend, and the people were assumed to be  mhatrw   Sep-13-06 01:58 PM   #95 
     - Assumed by EVERYBODY?  BestCenter   Sep-13-06 01:58 PM   #96 
     - Who comes to the WTC on weekends?  mhatrw   Sep-13-06 01:58 PM   #97 
        - So, you're saying all the security guards never work on weekends?  BestCenter   Sep-13-06 01:58 PM   #98 
        - So a few maintenance and security workers saw some temporary  mhatrw   Sep-13-06 01:58 PM   #102 
           - No, but  BestCenter   Sep-14-06 01:18 AM   #158 
        - Lots of people.  Will Scoffield   Sep-15-06 02:08 AM   #181 
           - Even in your OCT, the WTC buildings were "military/intel" centers. You  Nozebro   Sep-15-06 11:04 AM   #185 
              - Perhaps you are confused about the subject matter of my post  Will Scoffield   Sep-15-06 07:50 PM   #187 
     - Why didn't the charges go off in the fire?  rinsd   Sep-13-06 09:00 PM   #144 
     - Bombs in the elevator shafts  hpot   Sep-13-06 01:58 PM   #106 
        - A few questions.  Will Scoffield   Sep-15-06 02:15 AM   #182 
        - Psst. Still waiting.  Will Scoffield   Sep-16-06 04:29 AM   #188 
     - Especially building 7  FoxOnTheRun   Sep-13-06 01:58 PM   #75 
     - 6 days before 911 Marvin Bush head of security had the bomb  DemInDistress   Sep-13-06 01:58 PM   #80 
        - Afraid the bomb-sniffing dogs would get spooked when the planes came?  Nozebro   Sep-13-06 01:58 PM   #83 
        - But there WERE bomb-sniffing dogs in the towers on 9/11!  BestCenter   Sep-13-06 01:58 PM   #93 
           - Those poor dogs...  Wednesdays   Sep-14-06 12:20 AM   #156 
              - Now, that's just impossible  BestCenter   Sep-14-06 01:19 AM   #159 
              - But seriously,  BestCenter   Sep-14-06 01:30 AM   #161 
        - That is not true.  Will Scoffield   Sep-15-06 02:17 AM   #183 
     - you can't detonate explosives without cover.. and by chance  DemInDistress   Sep-13-06 01:58 PM   #78 
        - It's very hard to tell exactly what I'm looking at.  Taxloss   Sep-13-06 01:58 PM   #82 
        - your looking at the upper floors of WT2..far above the impact  DemInDistress   Sep-13-06 01:58 PM   #88 
        - There must be dozens of videos that are not zoomed in that close,  Taxloss   Sep-13-06 01:58 PM   #101 
        - Step back and look at the complete picture  hpot   Sep-13-06 01:58 PM   #105 
           - So let me get this straight  rinsd   Sep-13-06 08:48 PM   #142 
              - Not all explosives react the same to fire  hpot   Sep-13-06 11:22 PM   #151 
                 - So which explosives can withstand the sustained heat?  rinsd   Sep-14-06 10:19 AM   #163 
                    - Many explosives can withstand sustained heat without detonation  hpot   Sep-14-06 11:27 AM   #165 
                       - Sorry my man. Capt. Thermite is full of it.  rinsd   Sep-14-06 11:41 AM   #166 
                          - Ingredients are important  hpot   Sep-14-06 12:50 PM   #171 
                             - Sigh.....  rinsd   Sep-14-06 02:45 PM   #173 
                                - Cheers  hpot   Sep-14-06 03:08 PM   #174 
                                   - Cheers to you as well  rinsd   Sep-14-06 04:06 PM   #175 
        - There are none so blind they cannot ssSPIN. EOM  Nozebro   Sep-13-06 01:58 PM   #84 
           - wow...what a profound statement.. care to make some sense? nt  DemInDistress   Sep-13-06 01:58 PM   #86 
     - THAT's your explosive charge evidence?  BestCenter   Sep-13-06 01:58 PM   #94 
  - I thought they debated yesterday. That's when i heard the show. Is this  John Q. Citizen   Sep-13-06 01:58 PM   #64 
  - 9/11 Debate: Loose Change Filmmakers vs. Popular Mechanics Editors  pberq   Sep-13-06 02:00 PM   #107 
  - Video links:  greyl   Sep-13-06 02:00 PM   #108 
  - Thanks for posting those links -  pberq   Sep-13-06 02:00 PM   #110 
  - Conspiracy theory is as American as apple pie. The use of the term to  John Q. Citizen   Sep-13-06 02:00 PM   #109 
  - It's got to be the latter. They're smart & trained in forensics. They  Nozebro   Sep-13-06 03:58 PM   #128 
  - another example that exposes the PM guys as frauds  pberq   Sep-13-06 02:00 PM   #111 
     - Yep. PM Not answering the question but instead  John Q. Citizen   Sep-13-06 02:00 PM   #112 
     - Not so at all.  greyl   Sep-13-06 02:00 PM   #113 
     - Cheney let the thing hit the pentagon  FoxOnTheRun   Sep-13-06 02:00 PM   #114 
     - Bermas and Avery were arguing that an airliner did NOT hit  greyl   Sep-13-06 02:05 PM   #115 
        - Didn't the PM guy change the subject, too?  FoxOnTheRun   Sep-13-06 02:10 PM   #116 
        - No. nt  greyl   Sep-13-06 03:01 PM   #118 
        - Saying that no plane should have hit the Pentagon wasn't changing  Nozebro   Sep-13-06 04:08 PM   #130 
           - If not changing the subject, it was providing a clue that  greyl   Sep-13-06 04:17 PM   #133 
        - The FACT is, no airliner crashed at the Pentagon. Maybe, maybe a  Nozebro   Sep-13-06 03:55 PM   #127 
           - The confidence with which you make a statement doesn't  greyl   Sep-13-06 04:19 PM   #134 
           - He certainly knows what happened, but won't tell you  FoxOnTheRun   Sep-13-06 04:33 PM   #136 
     - 9/11 Panel - Norman Mineta's Testimony  Sven77   Sep-13-06 02:56 PM   #117 
        - And? nt  greyl   Sep-13-06 03:03 PM   #119 
     - Surprisingly weak, weren't they? I hope a lot of people heard/saw the  Nozebro   Sep-13-06 04:04 PM   #129 
        - Can you add anything to your ad hominem attack?  greyl   Sep-13-06 04:20 PM   #135 
  - The first contradictions:  greyl   Sep-13-06 03:40 PM   #121 
  - Nope.  Ka hrnt   Sep-13-06 09:24 PM   #146 
  - Is that their POV?  boloboffin   Sep-13-06 09:46 PM   #148 
     - Yes, yes it does. EOM.  Ka hrnt   Sep-14-06 10:21 PM   #177 
  - Sadly I must agree...  zforce   Sep-14-06 12:18 AM   #155 
  - This is hilarious.  Ka hrnt   Sep-13-06 09:12 PM   #145 
  - Yeah, that was an odd moment. It must have been like when Avery  greyl   Sep-14-06 12:03 AM   #153 
     - Yeah.  Ka hrnt   Sep-14-06 10:24 PM   #178 
  - Yellow Journalism  Sven77   Sep-13-06 09:40 PM   #147 
  - I think you are taking things out of context  Jim4Wes   Sep-14-06 11:50 AM   #168 
  - 9/11 Myths contributor Vs. an asshole DJ on radio. :  greyl   Sep-14-06 12:27 AM   #157 
  - To bad DN picked the weaker one of the 9-11 truth crowd  rman   Sep-14-06 03:26 AM   #162 
  - Would Paul Thompson ever defend Loose Change? nt  greyl   Sep-15-06 02:33 AM   #184 
  - No. He's part of the fake opposition. Just a milder version of an OCT'er  Nozebro   Sep-15-06 11:08 AM   #186 
  - Email her and request it, she'll respond to her viewers I am sure  whistle   Sep-16-06 03:32 PM   #191 
  - This was great, watching now, thanks for posting  whistle   Sep-16-06 03:28 PM   #189 
 

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