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greyl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 02:47 AM
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12. I'm glad I downloaded this.
Edited on Tue Aug-29-06 02:48 AM by greyl
I can't fathom how you could say, based on that fiasco, "it's clear he only knows slightly more than my cat about 9/11". Goiter only had the brains to cover 3 major issues in 20 minutes, and he covered them pathetically.

Davin Coburn did a very good job of politely and reasonably dealing with a host that behaved like a total fucking o'reillyesque asshole. (and one caller who also fit that description)

Pentagon
For about 6 minutes, the host argued "Flight 77 didn't hit the pentagon" based on the fact that not all video has been released to the public as if Coburn were gwbush himself. He tried to score points by repeatedly demanding that Coburn answer for the government. Goiter didn't want to talk about the evidence.

WTC7
Goiter interrupted Coburn's description of the construction to demand an answer to why all of the photo evidence hasn't been released to the public. Coburn says he'd like to see as much evidence as possible, but that it isn't up to him. Then a caller brings up the "pull it" quote which must be his best evidence for Silverstein being involved in the conspiracy. Coburn explains that demolition companies don't use the term "pull it", but that Firefighters do. - Goiter cuts to commercial.

Hijackers still alive, DNA evidence
A caller mentions the single 5 year old BBC report, then lies and says that there is more than one BBC report saying hijackers are alive. Coburn says "that's false". The caller says "are you insane?". Coburn is asked where the original DNA came from to test the remains against. Coburn says he doesn't know, but that he will find out. (hotel rooms, rental cars) Coburn tries to explain that Goiter is framing the question poorly, and begins to ask "why haven't we seen any recent reports that hijackers are still alive?" Goiter interrupts to say he knows the answer, then says "I don't know the answer". Then he repeats the question 'where did the original DNA come from?'

That's the short version. I don't think I left any substance out. Insert a lot of Goyette repeating asinine questions, interrupting, and grandstanding. He behaved like quite a prick.

I give Davin Coburn a A- for not being able to answer just 1 question which he should have known: where the original DNA came from. I don't know if that info was covered in the book, but it wasn't in the original PM article.

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  -Popular Mechanics hammered on radio KJF  Aug-26-06 01:41 AM   #0 
  - People were asking a guy from Popular Mechanics about DNA  greyl   Aug-26-06 02:22 AM   #1 
  - Listening now  Hope2006   Aug-26-06 04:27 PM   #2 
  - Very good, Kevin  Hope2006   Aug-26-06 04:59 PM   #3 
  - It would have been nice of them to share these secret pictures  DoYouEverWonder   Aug-26-06 06:09 PM   #6 
  - Wouldn't it have been?  Hope2006   Aug-26-06 06:31 PM   #8 
  - That DNA would be easy to get.  OldSiouxWarrior   Aug-30-06 05:54 PM   #32 
  - They yell at him and avoid asking about available evidence  Jim4Wes   Aug-26-06 05:00 PM   #4 
  - Because the known evidence was not the issue  Hope2006   Aug-26-06 05:11 PM   #5 
  - Real expert they found there  canetoad   Aug-26-06 06:31 PM   #7 
  - It is surely is an amazement  Hope2006   Aug-26-06 06:39 PM   #9 
  - And why hasn't...  wildbilln864   Aug-27-06 03:46 PM   #10 
  - surprised this thread is not getting more interest n/t  Hope2006   Aug-28-06 05:50 AM   #11 
  - I'm glad I downloaded this.  greyl   Aug-29-06 02:47 AM   #12 
  - Coburn was ignorant of his subject...  John Q. Citizen   Aug-29-06 05:48 PM   #13 
     - you can't be serious. n/t  Jim4Wes   Aug-29-06 05:53 PM   #14 
     - You can't be real. n/t  John Q. Citizen   Aug-29-06 06:26 PM   #15 
     - Not quite. Your links don't support your argument, jqc.  greyl   Aug-30-06 10:08 AM   #16 
        - His point (and yours) of no further reports is factually incorrect, and  John Q. Citizen   Aug-30-06 10:46 AM   #17 
        - Show us. nt  greyl   Aug-30-06 10:53 AM   #18 
           - I already did, but none are so blind as those who refuse to see.  John Q. Citizen   Aug-30-06 11:08 AM   #19 
              - No, you didn't. Again, your link doesn't support your argument.  greyl   Aug-30-06 11:18 AM   #20 
        - Coburn is full of it.  mhatrw   Aug-30-06 01:32 PM   #21 
           - A shred? Here, from BBC in 2003  greyl   Aug-30-06 01:51 PM   #22 
              - So that's 2 or perhaps 3 of 19. Which 2-3? Where are the official reports?  mhatrw   Aug-30-06 03:24 PM   #24 
                 - Now you're moving the goalposts.  greyl   Aug-30-06 03:57 PM   #25 
                    - This isn't some sort of a game.  mhatrw   Aug-30-06 04:20 PM   #26 
                       - Logic isn't a game.  greyl   Aug-30-06 04:27 PM   #27 
                          - I'm not talking about the whole hijacker issue. I'm talking about  mhatrw   Aug-30-06 04:46 PM   #28 
                             - Can you please copy and paste from the above transcript  greyl   Aug-30-06 05:18 PM   #29 
                             - You mean I can't say he said it because the interviewer  mhatrw   Aug-30-06 06:04 PM   #34 
                                - No, that's not what I mean at all. See ya. nt  greyl   Aug-30-06 06:13 PM   #35 
                             - Why do you work backward from the conclusion that he lied?  Jim4Wes   Aug-30-06 05:56 PM   #33 
  - kicked...  wildbilln864   Aug-30-06 03:18 PM   #23 
     - Bless yer heart willbill! nt  canetoad   Aug-30-06 05:30 PM   #30 
        - Yes indeed, because  greyl   Aug-30-06 05:47 PM   #31 
           - And that bothers you because..........?  canetoad   Aug-30-06 08:12 PM   #36 
           - what bothers me? nt  greyl   Aug-30-06 08:28 PM   #38 
           - You are bloody good value on a board Greyl  canetoad   Aug-30-06 08:17 PM   #37 
              - Wouldn't you agree that quality is more important than quantity?  greyl   Aug-30-06 08:30 PM   #39 
                 - Honestly don'k know  canetoad   Aug-30-06 08:52 PM   #40 
 

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