dailykoff
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Sat Aug-26-06 10:57 AM
Response to Reply #6 |
| 25. There was no core column buckling |
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and any perimeter column buckling was an effect, not a cause, of the top sections toppling, or beginning to.
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| -Structural Engineer doesn't buy "official" WTC collapse theory |
reprehensor |
Aug-25-06 06:09 AM |
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Is it this Charles N. Pegelow? |
greyl |
Aug-25-06 07:26 AM |
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Yes, that appears to be the guy. |
Jazz2006 |
Aug-26-06 05:14 AM |
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No advanced degree - is he a PE? |
screembloodymurder |
Aug-25-06 07:38 AM |
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PE Civil in the California database. Doesn't show a Structural authority |
gbwarming |
Aug-26-06 01:22 AM |
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He would have a license number even if he had reciprocity/grandfathering |
AZCat |
Aug-26-06 01:42 AM |
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Fetzer didn't even know the towers were clad in aluminum. (!) |
greyl |
Aug-26-06 02:14 AM |
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Some problems with his arguments... |
Carefulplease |
Aug-25-06 03:59 PM |
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Please explain your use of the term "non representative." |
mhatrw |
Aug-25-06 05:03 PM |
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Representativeness of the samples. |
Carefulplease |
Aug-25-06 05:40 PM |
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Can you supply any evidence for any of your dubious claims? |
mhatrw |
Aug-25-06 07:25 PM |
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His point about samples affected by the collapse and subsequent |
Jim4Wes |
Aug-25-06 07:54 PM |
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"Mud cracking" method of max temperature evaluation. |
Carefulplease |
Aug-26-06 03:25 AM |
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Statistical significance... |
Carefulplease |
Aug-26-06 03:59 AM |
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Umm... |
zforce |
Aug-26-06 09:49 PM |
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I am not so careful anymore... |
Carefulplease |
Aug-27-06 12:13 AM |
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You have to be more precise.. |
zforce |
Aug-27-06 02:49 AM |
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Without any corroborating evidence... |
AZCat |
Aug-27-06 06:48 AM |
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Go ahead AZ, explain why the NIST |
zforce |
Aug-27-06 12:58 PM |
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Why don't you ask them, instead of asking me? |
AZCat |
Aug-27-06 01:49 PM |
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I already did ask them.. |
zforce |
Aug-27-06 02:27 PM |
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Welcome to DU Zforce !.....I like your style! |
seatnineb |
Aug-27-06 02:34 PM |
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Thanks for the welcome and complement. |
zforce |
Aug-27-06 03:23 PM |
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I disagree. |
AZCat |
Aug-27-06 02:42 PM |
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Disagree all you want.. |
zforce |
Aug-27-06 03:22 PM |
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Thanks for your permission. |
AZCat |
Aug-27-06 03:27 PM |
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Maybe you're having trouble understanding.. |
zforce |
Aug-27-06 04:00 PM |
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Ah - I did misunderstand. |
AZCat |
Aug-27-06 04:04 PM |
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What point is that? |
zforce |
Aug-27-06 04:07 PM |
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The one about constraints. |
AZCat |
Aug-27-06 04:10 PM |
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Indeed we both agree.. |
zforce |
Aug-27-06 04:23 PM |
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It would be pointless for me to engage in supposition about this. |
AZCat |
Aug-27-06 04:27 PM |
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NO. |
zforce |
Aug-27-06 05:17 PM |
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It's highly ironic that you fault zforce for not providing |
mhatrw |
Aug-28-06 04:26 PM |
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Why is that ironic? |
AZCat |
Aug-28-06 07:53 PM |
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NIST *did* attempt implementations of these methods... |
Carefulplease |
Aug-27-06 05:35 PM |
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My, my..it seems you are misinterpreting once again,, |
zforce |
Aug-27-06 08:35 PM |
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I've read that quote already. You leave out the rest... |
Carefulplease |
Aug-27-06 09:58 PM |
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What's going on here? |
zforce |
Aug-27-06 11:07 PM |
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they did *attempt* to implement the method. |
Carefulplease |
Aug-27-06 11:57 PM |
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What was you subject line before you editted it? |
zforce |
Aug-28-06 12:03 AM |
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Getting back to where we had left off.. |
zforce |
Aug-28-06 11:37 PM |
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K-16 is from WTC1 or WTC2 |
Carefulplease |
Aug-29-06 12:44 AM |
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HA! You just bought the farm. |
dailykoff |
Aug-29-06 02:52 PM |
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Not quite accurate... |
Carefulplease |
Aug-29-06 09:20 PM |
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LOL, your story changes with every |
dailykoff |
Aug-30-06 12:41 AM |
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Some issues about the demise of the WTC Towers |
Carefulplease |
Sep-02-06 01:51 AM |
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Thanks, your spelling is much improved. |
dailykoff |
Sep-02-06 02:09 AM |
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p.s. the NIST apparently inhabits |
dailykoff |
Sep-02-06 10:16 AM |
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Detailed examinations? |
zforce |
Aug-30-06 12:04 AM |
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"NIST CHOOSING *not* to perform such precise tests" |
Carefulplease |
Aug-30-06 12:40 AM |
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Enough already with the rationalizations... |
zforce |
Aug-30-06 11:26 PM |
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The fires weren't limited and diffused... |
Carefulplease |
Aug-31-06 01:20 AM |
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I don't understand.. |
zforce |
Aug-27-06 08:43 PM |
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That is not what I am saying... |
Carefulplease |
Aug-27-06 11:00 PM |
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You seem to be misunderstanding me |
zforce |
Aug-27-06 11:19 PM |
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There is no such hypothetical. |
Carefulplease |
Aug-28-06 12:04 AM |
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What the heck.. |
zforce |
Aug-28-06 12:20 AM |
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Did I ever even suggest that the positives were "conclusive"? |
Carefulplease |
Aug-28-06 12:34 AM |
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Yes,, you kinda did |
zforce |
Aug-28-06 01:03 AM |
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Not at all ! |
Carefulplease |
Aug-28-06 01:31 AM |
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Lets slow down a bit.. |
zforce |
Aug-28-06 09:54 PM |
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You will find the temperature histories in the relevant reports... |
Carefulplease |
Aug-29-06 01:46 AM |
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I seem to be missing the part... |
zforce |
Aug-29-06 10:22 PM |
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Can you make your question more precise? |
Carefulplease |
Aug-29-06 11:16 PM |
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A core column to reach temps of 550c. |
zforce |
Aug-30-06 12:18 AM |
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What caused me to say that? |
Carefulplease |
Aug-30-06 12:45 AM |
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(cough) |
zforce |
Aug-30-06 11:32 PM |
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I've compared the two statements... |
Carefulplease |
Aug-31-06 12:44 AM |
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"Exotic forensic tests"? |
zforce |
Sep-01-06 10:42 PM |
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Relaxation of Persistent Pressures in Beans and the Production of Gases. |
Carefulplease |
Sep-02-06 12:20 AM |
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Oh boy.. |
zforce |
Sep-02-06 02:01 AM |
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Theroretically possible -- yes. But are they practical? |
Carefulplease |
Sep-02-06 02:48 AM |
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No luck with "Exotic", eh? |
zforce |
Sep-02-06 03:55 AM |
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Some simple calibration technique... |
Carefulplease |
Sep-02-06 09:02 PM |
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How "exotic" would that be.. |
zforce |
Sep-02-06 09:41 PM |
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It seems to me you might be underestimating the difficulties... |
Carefulplease |
Sep-02-06 10:13 PM |
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I highly doubt it.. |
zforce |
Sep-02-06 10:41 PM |
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Man, I haven't done a PDE in forever. |
AZCat |
Aug-30-06 06:02 AM |
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Did you change the subject line from |
zforce |
Aug-27-06 11:28 PM |
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It might have been interpreted thus. |
Carefulplease |
Aug-28-06 12:27 AM |
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That is what had happened. |
zforce |
Aug-28-06 12:58 AM |
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In that case I apologize again for the misunderstanding. n/t |
Carefulplease |
Aug-28-06 01:01 AM |
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How about the fact that NO recovered WTC metal whatsoever |
mhatrw |
Aug-28-06 04:17 PM |
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We know the temperature of Uranus. |
greyl |
Aug-28-06 10:16 PM |
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Those are good points... |
Carefulplease |
Aug-29-06 01:54 AM |
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We think we know the temperature of Uranus. |
mhatrw |
Aug-29-06 01:00 PM |
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Oh man, that was just a catchy subject line. :) However, |
greyl |
Aug-29-06 01:09 PM |
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When direct evidence contradicts indirect evidence, |
mhatrw |
Aug-29-06 01:31 PM |
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Now, your're posting silliness. |
greyl |
Aug-29-06 01:42 PM |
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Hmmm... |
zforce |
Aug-25-06 10:44 PM |
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"Three core columns located within these areas" |
Carefulplease |
Aug-25-06 10:56 PM |
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You seem to be misinterpreting.. |
zforce |
Aug-25-06 11:42 PM |
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"Representative sample" is a stastistical concept. |
Carefulplease |
Aug-26-06 01:42 AM |
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I would advise you to take a look.. |
zforce |
Aug-26-06 01:59 AM |
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You are guessing here |
Hope2006 |
Aug-26-06 05:59 AM |
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You are interpreting here... |
Carefulplease |
Aug-26-06 05:18 PM |
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Please provide some links to substantiate what you are saying |
Hope2006 |
Aug-26-06 05:33 PM |
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Too much work, sorry. However... |
Carefulplease |
Aug-26-06 05:53 PM |
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Thanks for the advice |
Hope2006 |
Aug-26-06 06:32 PM |
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Your're welcome... |
Carefulplease |
Aug-26-06 07:37 PM |
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Column buckling... |
Carefulplease |
Aug-25-06 05:57 PM |
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Circular reasoning. |
mhatrw |
Aug-25-06 07:33 PM |
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I guess the question is |
Jim4Wes |
Aug-25-06 08:23 PM |
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I didn't make that reasoning... |
Carefulplease |
Aug-25-06 08:31 PM |
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There was no core column buckling |
dailykoff |
Aug-26-06 10:57 AM |
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He's absolutely right |
dailykoff |
Aug-26-06 10:54 AM |
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What profession are you trying to smear the professors of? nt |
greyl |
Aug-26-06 10:12 PM |
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He's a Halliburton alumni with no apparent expertise... the truthiness |
Jazz2006 |
Aug-26-06 10:54 PM |
#33 |
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