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Carefulplease Donating Member (749 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-25-06 12:01 AM
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2. This could have been WTC2 coming down.
The initial story you linked to reports an ambiguous sequence of events.

http://www.record-eagle.com/2001/sep/11scene.htm

It has been reported already (NIST Interim Report on WTC 7) that after WTC2 collapsed, dust covered WTC7 lobby areas at floors 1 and 3. "After the first blast" is imprecise. You assume that it must refer to the first aircraft impact. You also assume that "another explosion" must refer to something else than the collapse of a WTC tower. The story is not precise enough to tell. It does not even report the words of either Jennings or Hess. The writer of the column could have misinterpreted their story. The writer's own interpretation isn't clear anyway.
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  -WTC7 Lobby "Gone" mirandapriestly  Aug-24-06 10:02 PM   #0 
  - Nice, this is new info to me :)  Sinti   Aug-24-06 10:57 PM   #1 
  - Oh, thanks , yes, it's an AP story, and there are many  mirandapriestly   Aug-25-06 01:40 AM   #4 
     - Tsk tsk.  Jazz2006   Aug-25-06 04:53 AM   #8 
        - Deleted message  Name removed   Aug-25-06 05:50 PM   #9 
        - "said" posts are only seen  Hope2006   Aug-25-06 08:00 PM   #11 
           - More food for thought.  Make7   Aug-25-06 09:47 PM   #13 
           - Not sure what you are out to prove  Hope2006   Aug-25-06 10:03 PM   #16 
              - I was simply saying those posts were worth considering.  Make7   Aug-25-06 10:33 PM   #20 
                 - You aren't getting it  Hope2006   Aug-25-06 10:39 PM   #23 
                    - What am I not getting? I'm curious. ( n/t )  Make7   Aug-25-06 10:51 PM   #26 
                       - I will PM you.  Hope2006   Aug-25-06 10:57 PM   #28 
           - I agreed to mods that I would ignore  mirandapriestly   Aug-25-06 10:01 PM   #15 
           - Of course. n/t  Hope2006   Aug-25-06 10:06 PM   #17 
           - Deleted message  Name removed   Aug-26-06 08:35 AM   #33 
              - I so enjoy conversing with you  Hope2006   Aug-26-06 03:05 PM   #38 
                 - Always a pleasure conversing with you, too.  Jazz2006   Aug-26-06 04:45 PM   #39 
                 - Thank you very much!  Hope2006   Aug-26-06 05:00 PM   #40 
                    - You are most welcome.  Jazz2006   Aug-26-06 11:21 PM   #50 
                 - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Aug-26-06 09:49 PM   #45 
  - This could have been WTC2 coming down.  Carefulplease   Aug-25-06 12:01 AM   #2 
  - wtc7 was evacuated at 9AM  mirandapriestly   Aug-25-06 01:52 AM   #5 
     - Really? According to whom?  Jazz2006   Aug-25-06 04:40 AM   #7 
  - I think you're misinterpreting the record-eagle story  Jazz2006   Aug-25-06 01:02 AM   #3 
  - Barry Jennings breaks bullet-and bomb-proof window?  Ferry Fey   Aug-26-06 08:24 AM   #32 
     - Well, it's an AP story and there are many versions of it on the web  Jazz2006   Aug-26-06 09:06 AM   #34 
     - It doesn't say where he was when he broke the window. eom  mirandapriestly   Aug-27-06 03:14 AM   #52 
     - Well, to be fair to Ferry Fey, and I think you should be,  Jazz2006   Aug-27-06 06:53 AM   #60 
        - I didn't feel that Miranda was being critical of me or unfair.  Ferry Fey   Aug-27-06 06:15 PM   #70 
           - Like I said  Jazz2006   Aug-28-06 02:50 AM   #74 
           - Sorry if i was curt  mirandapriestly   Aug-28-06 03:22 AM   #76 
     - Why would he break a window?  DoYouEverWonder   Aug-27-06 06:18 AM   #58 
        - No idea. People do strange things in strange circumstances, I guess.  Jazz2006   Aug-27-06 06:37 AM   #59 
           - But isn't that one of the main things  DoYouEverWonder   Aug-27-06 08:30 AM   #62 
              - One would think so.  Jazz2006   Aug-28-06 03:55 AM   #80 
  - Have you ruled out that some of those accounts  greyl   Aug-25-06 01:56 AM   #6 
  - Since flight 175 hit the south tower at an angle, it is unreasonable  petgoat   Aug-26-06 01:30 PM   #37 
  - Have you ever played pool?  greyl   Aug-26-06 09:40 PM   #42 
     - Of course I've played pool.  petgoat   Aug-27-06 12:47 PM   #63 
        - This was a fine post Petgoat...  Carefulplease   Aug-28-06 12:56 AM   #73 
        - I'm only maintaining a line of inquiry, not a conclusion.  greyl   Aug-28-06 10:15 AM   #85 
  - Interesting exhibit  TomClash   Aug-26-06 09:33 PM   #41 
     - Why not?  greyl   Aug-26-06 09:52 PM   #46 
     - Well to start with  TomClash   Aug-27-06 07:14 AM   #61 
        - Right,. that "hole" was on the bottom of the building  mirandapriestly   Aug-28-06 03:26 AM   #77 
        - The exhibit is of plane debris that was later located.  greyl   Aug-28-06 10:08 AM   #84 
     - yes, good point.eom  mirandapriestly   Aug-27-06 03:19 AM   #53 
  - We discussed this graphic  canetoad   Aug-25-06 06:02 PM   #10 
  - Now isn't that interesting  mirandapriestly   Aug-25-06 09:45 PM   #12 
     - It's got to be a result of not only falling debris from 1 and 2  Hope2006   Aug-25-06 10:34 PM   #21 
        - Time of collapse?  canetoad   Aug-25-06 10:42 PM   #24 
           - Good question  Hope2006   Aug-25-06 10:50 PM   #25 
           - Zactly!  canetoad   Aug-25-06 10:56 PM   #27 
              - Not that I am aware of  Hope2006   Aug-25-06 11:07 PM   #29 
           - sure isn't much on it  mirandapriestly   Aug-26-06 04:01 AM   #31 
  - WTC 7 Evacuated - what were they doing on 7th and 8th floors  mirandapriestly   Aug-25-06 09:56 PM   #14 
  - Thanks for this follow up miranda. This is very interesting in that  John Q. Citizen   Aug-25-06 10:14 PM   #18 
  - Yes, and if they had the ability to evacuate 7  mirandapriestly   Aug-25-06 10:22 PM   #19 
  - Do you think it's impossible for debris from the South Tower impact  greyl   Aug-26-06 01:26 AM   #30 
     - Sure greyl. Anything is possible.  John Q. Citizen   Aug-26-06 09:06 AM   #35 
        - Your reply is no substitute for substance. nt  greyl   Aug-26-06 09:42 PM   #43 
  - I'd like to add that the explosions heard/felt on the 23rd floor could  mirandapriestly   Aug-25-06 10:35 PM   #22 
  - Astonishing.  dailykoff   Aug-26-06 10:59 AM   #36 
  - I'm astonished at the noise RiceKrispies make.  greyl   Aug-26-06 09:45 PM   #44 
     - Rice Krispies(R) and the Controled Demolition of WTC7  Carefulplease   Aug-26-06 10:09 PM   #47 
     - Let's not get ahead of ourselves. We can't rule out the  greyl   Aug-26-06 10:19 PM   #48 
        - I heard  salvorhardin   Aug-26-06 10:35 PM   #49 
           - Don't forget the Keebler Elves. They are alive and well with CTers  Jazz2006   Aug-28-06 03:10 AM   #75 
     - Your reply is no substitute for substance. nt  mirandapriestly   Aug-27-06 03:24 AM   #54 
        - The poignant humor is substantial. I don't get your point. nt  greyl   Aug-27-06 03:42 AM   #55 
  - Here are some visuals  mirandapriestly   Aug-27-06 03:05 AM   #51 
  - I don't see evidence of smoke coming from WTC7 in that photo.  greyl   Aug-27-06 04:54 AM   #56 
  - Could also be steam  DoYouEverWonder   Aug-27-06 06:07 AM   #57 
     - I agree the big photo is not very convincing  mirandapriestly   Aug-27-06 01:28 PM   #65 
        - The pic looks fine  DoYouEverWonder   Aug-27-06 03:06 PM   #66 
           - In September, though?  AZCat   Aug-27-06 03:21 PM   #67 
           - From what I remember  DoYouEverWonder   Aug-27-06 03:33 PM   #68 
              - Perhaps I wasn't clear.  AZCat   Aug-27-06 03:43 PM   #69 
           - heh. One time in Manhattan, I was walking down Upper Broadway  mirandapriestly   Aug-28-06 03:35 AM   #78 
              - Flames?  AZCat   Aug-28-06 07:56 PM   #86 
  - How did the steel Calder sculpture in front of wtc7  mirandapriestly   Aug-27-06 01:27 PM   #64 
  - Maybe it was crushed and did not melt.  Carefulplease   Aug-27-06 06:28 PM   #71 
  - yeah, right wtc7 fell over on top of the sculpture  mirandapriestly   Aug-28-06 03:48 AM   #79 
     - The fact that it was not recovered in its entirety...  Carefulplease   Aug-29-06 05:41 PM   #87 
  - Oh, now I'm sad  salvorhardin   Aug-27-06 06:36 PM   #72 
  - Kick n/t  Hope2006   Aug-28-06 05:48 AM   #81 
  - You noticed the distractions too?  canetoad   Aug-28-06 06:00 AM   #82 
     - that would be a "yes" n/t  Hope2006   Aug-28-06 06:02 AM   #83 
  - Here is Hess on a TV interview  mirandapriestly   Sep-25-06 09:46 PM   #88 
 

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