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42. An ex-military friend and I were on the phone together that morning
and we were saying the same thing. He knew exactly where each air base was in relation to where the attacks were happening, so he was stunned that the F-15s hadn't been sent up.

We also talked to a friend of his hours later whose brother had been a Steward on a plane that had been right behind one of the hijack aircraft on the tarmac that morning. He said that the control tower knew the plane was hijacked while it was ON THE GROUND, and yet nothing was being done (it sat waiting for takeoff for quite some time. Normally the captain of the steward's plane chatted with the captain of the hijacked plane before takeoff, but that morning he couldn't reach him and became alarmed). The hijacked plane veered wildly off course after it reached altitude. This was one of the planes that struck the WTC.
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  -9/11 Live: The NORAD Tapes orleans  Aug-02-06 02:30 AM   #0 
  - "The hijack's not supposed to be for another hour"  CJCRANE   Aug-02-06 02:41 AM   #1 
  - very interesting, K&R n/t  Syrinx   Aug-02-06 02:53 AM   #2 
  - OMG  mirandapriestly   Aug-02-06 03:20 AM   #5 
  - """""!ijiO:!J!!!!!!!! !!!!111111 111111111111 1111111 11111111111  yibbehobba   Aug-02-06 06:58 AM   #21 
  - What is your problem?  leesa   Aug-02-06 10:06 AM   #60 
  - Don't waste your breath (energy) ...  Nihil   Aug-03-06 07:02 AM   #168 
     - The only allergy I have...  yibbehobba   Aug-03-06 07:29 AM   #172 
        - Deleted message  Name removed   Aug-03-06 03:04 PM   #187 
  - And """""!ijiO:!J!!!!!!!! !!!!111111 111111111111 1111111 11111111111  TripeOmatic   Aug-02-06 11:10 AM   #70 
  - Are you Donald Rumsfeld by any chance?  savemefromdumbya   Aug-04-06 11:42 AM   #211 
  - Coincidence or not, it is plain that Condi was lying when she said  jpkenny   Aug-02-06 08:17 AM   #39 
  - No one except a group of Clinton officials in the 90's who studied  Feles Mala   Aug-03-06 02:53 PM   #185 
  - Terror Drills are the Conduits for False-Flag Terror Ops!  respublicus   Aug-04-06 03:28 AM   #202 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Aug-02-06 11:54 AM   #83 
  - Coincidence??!! From an Administration that TESTIFIED NOBODY  WinkyDink   Aug-02-06 12:13 PM   #89 
  - Not coincidence at all... that lie is completely indefensible. n/t  redqueen   Aug-02-06 03:48 PM   #124 
  - I wonder if either 11, 93, 175, and 77 were the plane to be 'hijacked'?  Old and In the Way   Aug-02-06 10:36 PM   #150 
  - I'm always wondering that myself  Generator   Aug-03-06 01:43 PM   #182 
     - The more you learn about Atta, the more you wonder about the  Old and In the Way   Aug-03-06 10:21 PM   #190 
        - What you said.  Pierogi_Pincher   Aug-04-06 12:02 AM   #194 
  - The 'hijack' was all planned regardless of the exercise and many knew it  savemefromdumbya   Aug-04-06 11:40 AM   #210 
  - Just finished reading/listening to the whole thing. That is an INCREDIBLE  Poll_Blind   Aug-02-06 02:54 AM   #3 
  - I'm curious. You seem to be a person of open reason. What is your  jpkenny   Aug-02-06 07:03 AM   #24 
  - Clear "wheel and spoke" conspiracy, MIHOP (eom)  davekriss   Aug-02-06 09:21 AM   #47 
  - This may be a disappointing or seemingly-cryptic answer but...  Poll_Blind   Aug-02-06 09:50 AM   #54 
  - Sounds like an uncommon and practical approach to disinformation overload.  TripeOmatic   Aug-02-06 11:19 AM   #73 
  - it's called cognitive dissonance  shanti   Aug-02-06 03:01 PM   #122 
  - Not quite.  Realityhack   Aug-02-06 06:16 PM   #135 
  - The cure to disinformation overload  lumberjack_jeff   Aug-03-06 11:42 PM   #193 
  - here's a bit of irony  dkos refugee   Aug-02-06 12:47 PM   #94 
  - well said  atomic-fly   Aug-02-06 01:29 PM   #105 
  - I wish I could recommend and kick posts, and not just threads.  longship   Aug-02-06 01:48 PM   #107 
  - When no source of information is trustworthy...  ElboRuum   Aug-02-06 02:45 PM   #118 
  - Secret government contractors are probably also responsible...  AntiFascist   Aug-02-06 03:46 PM   #123 
  - Doesn't change anything  LeighAnn   Aug-02-06 10:19 AM   #62 
  - me too, it is incredible!  katty   Aug-02-06 06:22 PM   #136 
  - confusion regarding "real life" vs exercise;  rman   Aug-02-06 03:15 AM   #4 
  - what do you mean about the "input"?  mirandapriestly   Aug-02-06 03:23 AM   #6 
  - key-word: "simulation", as in "not real"  rman   Aug-02-06 03:59 AM   #12 
  - Too bad the Secretary of Defense  DoYouEverWonder   Aug-02-06 07:08 AM   #25 
     - Did Rummy ever release a timeline of his movements that day?  Canuckistanian   Aug-02-06 10:00 AM   #57 
     - Here are some quotes from the horses' mouth has they say  DoYouEverWonder   Aug-02-06 12:20 PM   #90 
        - Unbelievable  Canuckistanian   Aug-02-06 04:40 PM   #127 
           - Tori Clark interrupted Rummie's meeting  DoYouEverWonder   Aug-02-06 05:53 PM   #130 
     - Nor Eberhardt and Meyers.  Old and In the Way   Aug-02-06 11:11 PM   #153 
  - interesting  HuffleClaw   Aug-02-06 03:24 AM   #7 
  - Its like the Keystone Cops with an Air Force  Phrogman   Aug-02-06 03:26 AM   #8 
  - Don't forget the interview tapes that were destroyed  SupplyConcerns   Aug-02-06 03:28 AM   #9 
  - Those were FAA tapes nt  hang a left   Aug-02-06 07:16 AM   #30 
  - The tapes of air traffic controllers were destroyed...  davekriss   Aug-02-06 07:07 PM   #137 
  - This isn't Kansas anymore, look at London on 7/7  48percenter   Aug-02-06 03:28 AM   #10 
  - Why do you insist on propogating disinformation?  yibbehobba   Aug-02-06 07:01 AM   #23 
  - Yes, exercises were held on that day, interesting coincidence.eom  mirandapriestly   Aug-05-06 01:35 PM   #221 
  - More spin  paulthompson   Aug-02-06 03:51 AM   #11 
  - Thanks for the analysis, Paul!  Zhade   Aug-02-06 06:58 AM   #22 
  - Great post.  RandomKoolzip   Aug-02-06 10:26 AM   #63 
  - Paul, you are the anti-timfoil voice of reason on 911. THANK YOU  elehhhhna   Aug-02-06 10:29 AM   #64 
  - Love your work, Paul  Rude Horner   Aug-02-06 11:16 AM   #71 
  - Curious anecdotal story for you...  joeunderdog   Aug-02-06 11:52 AM   #82 
  - Interesting. Good question, thanks.  Ghost Dog   Aug-02-06 07:35 PM   #139 
  - Paul Thompson, American hero  grasswire   Aug-02-06 12:12 PM   #87 
  - Thanks  paulthompson   Aug-02-06 01:15 PM   #99 
     - Nice to read you :)  slack   Aug-03-06 01:06 AM   #156 
  - I dissagree to an extent.  Realityhack   Aug-02-06 06:11 PM   #134 
  - Your input is greatly appreciated. Hiding the truth is "hard work".  Just Me   Aug-02-06 07:11 PM   #138 
  - Absolutely.  dailykoff   Aug-04-06 02:52 AM   #199 
  - Could they have handled the situation if there had NOT been simulations?  eridani   Aug-02-06 04:01 AM   #13 
  - From what I can peice together...  Realityhack   Aug-02-06 07:38 PM   #140 
  - The truth is finally coming out. Yeehaw!  Vidar   Aug-02-06 04:26 AM   #14 
  - Well. bits and pieces of it at least  DoYouEverWonder   Aug-02-06 04:46 AM   #15 
     - Perhaps it's  Wednesdays   Aug-02-06 07:15 AM   #29 
     - That's a big part of it  DoYouEverWonder   Aug-02-06 07:31 AM   #32 
     - Could be, but I'm starved for good news.  Vidar   Aug-02-06 11:55 AM   #84 
  - Poll: 1 in 3 Americans suspects 9/11 inside job  GeronimoSkull   Aug-02-06 04:47 AM   #16 
  - Ironic, isn't it? 30% is enough to keep Little Lord Pants on Fire in  ixion   Aug-02-06 05:37 AM   #17 
  - Dayum! ONE IN THREE!!!!  Just Me   Aug-02-06 09:58 PM   #149 
  - Fascinating stuff.  Turbineguy   Aug-02-06 05:53 AM   #18 
  - Re: always disagreed with the idea that there was a Bush (or PNAC)  mallard   Aug-02-06 09:33 AM   #48 
  - The NYFD/PD performed well. The outoftheloop people probably  elehhhhna   Aug-02-06 10:32 AM   #65 
  - "The real story is actually better than the one we told," NORAD general  Phoebe Loosinhouse   Aug-02-06 06:11 AM   #19 
  - EXACTLY ! ! !  QuettaKid   Aug-02-06 07:08 AM   #26 
  - And that leads us the the ords "RICO statute" and on to "HIGH CRIMES etc."  elehhhhna   Aug-02-06 10:34 AM   #66 
  - To whom exactly did they tell the not real story?  hootinholler   Aug-02-06 09:03 AM   #46 
  - Law! hahahah good one!!!  SlavesandBulldozers   Aug-02-06 12:39 PM   #92 
  - Better?  donkeyotay   Aug-02-06 11:32 AM   #77 
  - Congress should now ask the NORAD general what he means  savemefromdumbya   Aug-04-06 11:51 AM   #212 
  - Question: how often do they conduct such exercises?  patsified   Aug-02-06 06:47 AM   #20 
  - Unprecedented in US history.  vickiss   Aug-02-06 07:10 AM   #27 
  - Cite? n/t  yibbehobba   Aug-02-06 10:37 AM   #67 
  - See post 145. n/t  vickiss   Aug-02-06 09:17 PM   #146 
     - Alex Jones? Please.  yibbehobba   Aug-03-06 05:26 AM   #162 
        - Maybe Alex Jones doesn't meet your "test", but the rest have  vickiss   Aug-03-06 05:43 AM   #164 
           - Because anybody who associates with Alex Jones...  yibbehobba   Aug-03-06 06:18 AM   #166 
              - Many that we respect DO have feet of clay. n/t  vickiss   Aug-03-06 07:19 AM   #169 
                 - Alex Jones, on the other hand, has a head of clay.  yibbehobba   Aug-03-06 07:24 AM   #170 
                    - Truth is still truth, whether you like the messenger or not.  vickiss   Aug-03-06 08:03 AM   #173 
                       - He isn't "exposing" any "truth."  yibbehobba   Aug-03-06 09:08 AM   #175 
                          - The OCT of 9/11 is a LIE!  vickiss   Aug-03-06 11:28 AM   #177 
                             - What's an OCT?  yibbehobba   Aug-03-06 11:35 AM   #178 
                                - Deleted message  Name removed   Aug-03-06 03:00 PM   #186 
                                - Gee, where to begin?  yibbehobba   Aug-04-06 05:33 AM   #204 
                                   - Kind of funny take on things, but that's okay.  Nitty-Gritty   Aug-04-06 07:14 AM   #206 
                                - Everybody does untruthful things no matter if you care to admit it or not  nolabels   Aug-04-06 02:54 AM   #200 
  - Sorce???  Realityhack   Aug-02-06 07:40 PM   #141 
     - James Fetzer, I think , stated it at the American Scholars Symposium.  vickiss   Aug-02-06 09:15 PM   #145 
        - hmmm  Realityhack   Aug-03-06 05:45 AM   #165 
           - I've emailed Dr. Fetzer for the info. n/t  vickiss   Aug-03-06 08:04 AM   #174 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Aug-02-06 11:27 PM   #155 
  - So civilians with cell phones were more effective that the US military  underpants   Aug-02-06 07:13 AM   #28 
  - NORAD is a bi-national organization  slackmaster   Aug-02-06 09:43 AM   #50 
  - Sortof...  Realityhack   Aug-02-06 06:00 PM   #133 
  - military/NORAD told to stand down by Rumsfeld?  savemefromdumbya   Aug-04-06 11:54 AM   #213 
  - The classic "Cover Up" Not one person was fired.......  0007   Aug-02-06 07:26 AM   #31 
  - Bush promoted most people in command that day - go figure?  savemefromdumbya   Aug-04-06 11:55 AM   #214 
  - This article debunks a lot of the conspiracy stuff  OKNancy   Aug-02-06 07:32 AM   #33 
  - No, it actually does not.... it fits right in....  drduffy   Aug-02-06 09:45 AM   #53 
  - Disappointing article  hang a left   Aug-02-06 07:40 AM   #34 
  - K&R. keep kicked. nt.  QuettaKid   Aug-02-06 07:43 AM   #35 
  - i remember thinking...  michele77   Aug-02-06 07:53 AM   #36 
  - I thought the same thing...  Virginia Dare   Aug-02-06 08:00 AM   #37 
  - K & R. Perhaps the truth will come out. MIHOP. MIHOP. MIHOP.  chimpymustgo   Aug-02-06 08:12 AM   #38 
  - Not so much L/MIHOP as CYA (though equally treasonous)  Nordic65   Aug-02-06 02:35 PM   #117 
     - No, it was pure MIHOP. Read 9/11 Synthetic Terror: Made in USA  respublicus   Aug-04-06 05:19 AM   #203 
  - So the question should be  RawMaterials   Aug-02-06 08:17 AM   #40 
  - Better question...  Virginia Dare   Aug-02-06 08:19 AM   #41 
     - Yes, it would have...  FormerDem06   Aug-02-06 02:17 PM   #115 
     - Actually, we'll never know  Laurab   Aug-03-06 02:27 PM   #184 
     - I'm sure that a lot of people here want to believe  Dissenting_Prole   Aug-03-06 03:33 PM   #188 
     - In some ways  CJCRANE   Aug-04-06 02:48 AM   #198 
     - That's exactly what I've held all along!  Pierogi_Pincher   Aug-04-06 12:28 AM   #195 
  - that terrible day, is the day I found DU  newspeak   Aug-02-06 11:21 AM   #75 
     - I've heard many personal anecdotes....  Virginia Dare   Aug-02-06 01:22 PM   #102 
     - I listened to the shortwave BBC World Service that day,  Ghost Dog   Aug-02-06 07:44 PM   #142 
        - I now see (according to NORAD) this must have been one of the Langley, VA  Ghost Dog   Aug-03-06 10:38 AM   #176 
  - An ex-military friend and I were on the phone together that morning  Lorien   Aug-02-06 08:29 AM   #42 
  - Hijacked while on the ground?  Virginia Dare   Aug-02-06 01:26 PM   #103 
  - VEEEEERY interesting...  woody b   Aug-05-06 01:39 PM   #223 
  - Heck, I used to work at McGuire AFB  FlaGranny   Aug-02-06 10:00 AM   #58 
  - Rummy changed procedure......  jus_the_facts   Aug-02-06 11:19 AM   #72 
  - That's only part of the answer.  Kailassa   Aug-03-06 10:24 PM   #191 
  - It appears that Rumsfeld was 'in charge' of the 9/11 attacks?  savemefromdumbya   Aug-04-06 11:59 AM   #215 
  - It seems to me that...  Virginia Dare   Aug-02-06 01:28 PM   #104 
  - This is the one point on which I could be easily convinced of MIHOP  sybylla   Aug-02-06 11:41 AM   #79 
  - ACTUALLY 2 FIGHTERS WERE IN THE AIR OVER THE PINELANDS..  flyarm   Aug-02-06 01:20 PM   #100 
  - CNN/B.Starr is running a story "9/11 Pentagon Lies?"  Ilsa   Aug-02-06 08:39 AM   #43 
  - Truly fascinating  Robb   Aug-02-06 08:47 AM   #44 
  - Robb, I agree - for the most part.  Finnfan   Aug-02-06 09:52 AM   #55 
     - Coincidence #283,292,090: The Fla election crimes were gaining LOTS of  elehhhhna   Aug-02-06 11:20 AM   #74 
     - Interesting you should mention that.  Finnfan   Aug-02-06 11:25 AM   #76 
        - Obviously. These things are only revealed on a "need to know" basis,  elehhhhna   Aug-02-06 12:12 PM   #88 
        - i agree with you..but i believe ..  flyarm   Aug-02-06 01:56 PM   #109 
        - I question whether that is what Card told him  arcane1   Aug-02-06 02:14 PM   #114 
        - Then why did Bush on two separate occasions  DoYouEverWonder   Aug-03-06 05:08 AM   #161 
           - "I saw the 1st plane hit, and I thought that was one bad pilot"  Old and In the Way   Aug-03-06 10:31 PM   #192 
              - His other "slips" have turned out to be true.eom  mirandapriestly   Aug-05-06 01:37 PM   #222 
     - I agree with FinnFan and posted above  drduffy   Aug-02-06 12:49 PM   #95 
  - We have to face it folks. The BS our Gov't has been shoveling  napi21   Aug-02-06 08:47 AM   #45 
  - American hired a huge PR firm immediately...  flyarm   Aug-02-06 02:03 PM   #112 
  - Fascinating read, chilling audio links  slackmaster   Aug-02-06 09:38 AM   #49 
  - kick  saigon68   Aug-02-06 11:44 AM   #80 
  - See the movie...  mexicoxpat   Aug-02-06 09:43 AM   #51 
  - The NORAD Tapes  Massachusetts   Aug-02-06 09:44 AM   #52 
  - My take:  Iniquitous Bunny   Aug-02-06 09:58 AM   #56 
  - I disagree with one of your statments.  Realityhack   Aug-02-06 07:54 PM   #144 
  - If it was LIHOP do you think that  vickiss   Aug-02-06 09:48 PM   #147 
     - good point. n/t  orleans   Aug-03-06 03:12 AM   #158 
        - Thanks! n/t  vickiss   Aug-03-06 05:40 AM   #163 
  - k+r  Blue_Tires   Aug-02-06 10:05 AM   #59 
  - A politicized mess  ramapo   Aug-02-06 10:09 AM   #61 
  - Very good question ramapo!  vickiss   Aug-02-06 09:51 PM   #148 
  - K & R  wicket   Aug-02-06 10:56 AM   #68 
  - How dare anyone even think of governmental conspiracy.  lthuedk   Aug-02-06 11:04 AM   #69 
  - good its early in the day  judaspriestess   Aug-02-06 11:38 AM   #78 
  - I'm going to be a guest on Air America today to talk about this!  paulthompson   Aug-02-06 11:48 AM   #81 
  - I will nt  Peggy Day   Aug-02-06 12:04 PM   #86 
  - WOOOOOO HOOOOOO  TNOE   Aug-02-06 02:01 PM   #111 
  - @#$(% I missed it.  Realityhack   Aug-02-06 05:53 PM   #131 
  - just heard you on randi's show.  orleans   Aug-03-06 03:29 AM   #159 
  - Now investigate the Ptech/GoAgile story  EVDebs   Aug-02-06 11:56 AM   #85 
  - Ptech? I already did  paulthompson   Aug-02-06 01:03 PM   #96 
  - I STILL want to know how the hijackers knew to turn off transponders  loudsue   Aug-02-06 12:38 PM   #91 
  - remote - what hijackers?  savemefromdumbya   Aug-04-06 12:01 PM   #216 
  - Interesting  sakabatou   Aug-02-06 12:40 PM   #93 
  - As a former flight attendant  judaspriestess   Aug-02-06 05:11 PM   #128 
     - Agree - that's the missing link  OzarkDem   Aug-03-06 12:49 PM   #180 
     - As a current air traffic controller, that's not accurate.  MercutioATC   Aug-05-06 01:19 PM   #219 
  - The NORAD center tucked in NY  Corgigal   Aug-02-06 01:05 PM   #97 
  - The truth will come out!!!  lovuian   Aug-02-06 01:07 PM   #98 
  - K&R.(nt)  Kurovski   Aug-02-06 01:21 PM   #101 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Aug-02-06 01:45 PM   #106 
  - And they laughed at me.  asking4help   Aug-02-06 01:55 PM   #108 
  - My take on this...  lala_rawraw   Aug-02-06 01:58 PM   #110 
  - These people are incapable of governing.  yibbehobba   Aug-03-06 07:29 AM   #171 
  - OMG - this is "still" in Latest Breaking News  TNOE   Aug-02-06 02:04 PM   #113 
  - The one inescapable thing the comes HORRIBLY to mind in all this is  reprobate   Aug-02-06 02:26 PM   #116 
  - I guess that's why there is the Hague  TNOE   Aug-02-06 02:59 PM   #120 
  - Cool. Really cool.  GoddessOfGuinness   Aug-02-06 02:53 PM   #119 
  - Surprise  Gully Foyle   Aug-02-06 03:01 PM   #121 
  - excellent timeline...  Visiongirl   Aug-02-06 03:54 PM   #125 
  - Why were transponders designed to be turned off?  funkybutt   Aug-02-06 04:29 PM   #126 
  - That's what I'd like to know too  DoYouEverWonder   Aug-04-06 06:12 AM   #205 
  - Bump... like it needs it.  Realityhack   Aug-02-06 05:50 PM   #129 
  - 'The real story is actually better than the one we told'  Rex   Aug-02-06 05:55 PM   #132 
  - Hokey Smoke!  Steve_DeShazer   Aug-02-06 07:48 PM   #143 
  - I sure hope you all noticed that the important text is bleeped in playback  sce56   Aug-02-06 10:41 PM   #151 
  - Bullshit, dude.  greyl   Aug-03-06 04:17 AM   #160 
     - look at the evidence the firemen stated in the radio calls there were bomb  sce56   Aug-03-06 07:25 PM   #189 
     - I have. You didn't answer the question.  greyl   Aug-04-06 02:41 AM   #197 
     - Wow. Pretty amazing stuff I'd never even heard of before. Thanks.  Nitty-Gritty   Aug-04-06 07:17 AM   #207 
     - Good post , thank you! eom  mirandapriestly   Aug-04-06 12:14 PM   #218 
     - "enormous amount of displaced matter..."  BrokenBeyondRepair   Aug-04-06 11:23 AM   #208 
  - Put bush and cheney under oath this time and ask the questions.  Straight Shooter   Aug-02-06 11:00 PM   #152 
  - Contact you Senators to ask questions  savemefromdumbya   Aug-04-06 12:01 PM   #217 
  - NPR talkink NORAD tapes in mornink-  Algorem   Aug-02-06 11:25 PM   #154 
  - Yeah right.  althecat   Aug-03-06 02:09 AM   #157 
  - limited hangout, limited hangout, limited hangout  drduffy   Aug-03-06 06:49 AM   #167 
     - what do you mean? n/t  orleans   Aug-03-06 12:47 PM   #179 
     - It means:  herbster   Aug-03-06 01:38 PM   #181 
        - un-freakin-real. i never heard of this before.  orleans   Aug-03-06 02:25 PM   #183 
           - I can't believe this thread hasn't yet been sent to the dungeon!  wildbilln864   Aug-04-06 02:18 AM   #196 
              - just guessing but  orleans   Aug-04-06 03:13 AM   #201 
                 - I guess you were right orleans.  wildbilln864   Aug-04-06 11:38 AM   #209 
     - An ATC came on Randi Rhodes  mirandapriestly   Aug-05-06 01:31 PM   #220 
        - Until the government comes clean, the only natural and logical  John Q. Citizen   Aug-08-06 09:51 AM   #224 
 

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