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| 69. The cry of "anti-Semtism" everytime somone critices Israeli policies in |
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the ME and US unbalanced support of the Likud government and the control of our politics by Isareli supporters and lobbyists is really getting tired and is having a reverse affect. No one ever gets criticized for criticizing Arabs or other foreign nations or their leaders. I think there is now a growing back-lash against Israel because of the supression of freedom to speak out about US foreign policy where Israel is involved.
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| -Nadler: Questions About War in Iraq Cannot 'Fairly Involve Israel' |
sabra |
Jun-20-05 06:42 AM |
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Wrong, is Israel a "sovereign state" or a "sacred prized pal" |
ElectroPrincess |
Jun-20-05 06:50 AM |
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True, it should... |
DixieDem |
Jun-20-05 09:11 PM |
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Geeez....in lieu of the Israeli spy case, I think the case for Israeli |
Dover |
Jun-20-05 07:02 AM |
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What has him being from New York got to do with it? n/t |
Vladimir |
Jun-20-05 07:13 AM |
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Lots of Joooooos live in NY. But don't you dare suggest |
geek tragedy |
Jun-20-05 08:03 AM |
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I am a Jew, was against the Iraq war from the start |
still_one |
Jun-20-05 08:21 AM |
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"Jooooos" was meant sarcastically. I was mocking |
geek tragedy |
Jun-20-05 08:25 AM |
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the point I was making was that the U.S. under bush I |
still_one |
Jun-20-05 08:30 AM |
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Maybe, but Saddam was still 100% wrong to invade. |
geek tragedy |
Jun-20-05 08:34 AM |
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of course you are right, but it was a setup |
still_one |
Jun-20-05 08:58 AM |
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mixed message? more like the go-ahead... |
bicentennial_baby |
Jun-20-05 08:37 AM |
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The matter was a border dispute between the two countries. |
geek tragedy |
Jun-20-05 08:38 AM |
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I know all about what happened |
bicentennial_baby |
Jun-20-05 08:52 AM |
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what is amazing is most Americans do not even realize what happened |
still_one |
Jun-20-05 09:00 AM |
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I try to give people the benefit of the doubt |
Vladimir |
Jun-20-05 08:47 AM |
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Excuse me, where are you coming from? Not helpful at all. |
bunny planet |
Jun-20-05 11:54 AM |
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I'm not calling them Joooooos. It was meant sarcastically. |
geek tragedy |
Jun-20-05 01:29 PM |
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Bush is from Texas |
Coastie for Truth |
Jun-20-05 12:08 PM |
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We have to deal with the Israel issue |
DoYouEverWonder |
Jun-20-05 07:02 AM |
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The problem isn't Israel - it's oil |
Coastie for Truth |
Jun-20-05 12:19 PM |
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Yeah, because that is logical, isn't it? |
Vladimir |
Jun-20-05 07:11 AM |
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Once again, Israel is not an ally; |
short bus president |
Jun-20-05 08:05 AM |
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Whichever way you look at it |
Vladimir |
Jun-20-05 08:45 AM |
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you are right |
still_one |
Jun-20-05 09:13 AM |
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The sacred cow has an infected teat called Likud. |
TahitiNut |
Jun-20-05 07:59 AM |
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This guy is an asshat. |
lateo |
Jun-20-05 08:02 AM |
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No one forced the U.S. to go into Iraq except the U.S. |
still_one |
Jun-20-05 08:06 AM |
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Jun-20-05 09:31 AM |
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Deleted message |
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Jun-20-05 09:36 AM |
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Please don't post anti-semitic bullshit here n/t |
Vladimir |
Jun-20-05 09:39 AM |
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As long as certain subjects are forbidden |
librechik |
Jun-20-05 09:49 AM |
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I agree. Blaming Israel is a distraction |
JerseygirlCT |
Jun-20-05 09:32 AM |
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HERE AGAIN IS THE TRUTH. You gonna have it removed again? |
jasop |
Jun-20-05 10:07 AM |
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That post doesn't link to a racist site nor does it rant about |
geek tragedy |
Jun-20-05 12:32 PM |
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Nadler is a damn good guy |
trebizond |
Jun-20-05 08:34 AM |
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There are single-issue 'anti-zionists' that call themselves progressives. |
geek tragedy |
Jun-20-05 08:35 AM |
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This serves two purposes |
still_one |
Jun-20-05 09:20 AM |
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Jun-20-05 08:54 AM |
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the whole Congress is owned by someone |
still_one |
Jun-20-05 09:07 AM |
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Jun-20-05 09:28 AM |
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No, some of us just aren't obsessed with Israel and are suspicious |
geek tragedy |
Jun-20-05 09:33 AM |
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Actually, she has a very good point |
Vladimir |
Jun-20-05 09:40 AM |
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Yep, would a true die-hard supporter/friend of Israeli supremacism |
geek tragedy |
Jun-20-05 09:43 AM |
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The ethnic and racial angles are perfect wedge |
Vladimir |
Jun-20-05 09:47 AM |
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Clues |
Behind the Aegis |
Jun-20-05 01:41 PM |
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Considering the fact that Israel attacked the USS Liberty in 1967 |
Mzztakable |
Jun-20-05 08:57 AM |
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every country is free game if they do something wrong |
still_one |
Jun-20-05 09:04 AM |
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I said they intended to blame it on the Arabs, but the crew was able to |
Mzztakable |
Jun-20-05 09:08 AM |
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not valid |
still_one |
Jun-20-05 09:16 AM |
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ummm.. ok.. lets pretend there isn't a pink elephant in the room n/t |
jasop |
Jun-20-05 09:22 AM |
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show me credible evidence where the Arabs were going to be blamed? |
still_one |
Jun-20-05 09:24 AM |
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You go ahead and rely on the "official" government report. I will rely on |
Mzztakable |
Jun-20-05 09:26 AM |
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show me where the surviors said the Arabs were going to be blamed |
still_one |
Jun-20-05 09:30 AM |
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Considering that there is no way you had time to go to their website and |
Mzztakable |
Jun-20-05 09:35 AM |
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I have read extensively on this |
still_one |
Jun-20-05 09:48 AM |
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Same here. I choose to believe the sailors. |
Mzztakable |
Jun-20-05 09:51 AM |
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I believe the sailors, i.e. victiums also |
still_one |
Jun-20-05 09:54 AM |
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Do you think Israel would've taken responsibility if they hadn't been |
Mzztakable |
Jun-20-05 10:09 AM |
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I have also read extensively |
Coastie for Truth |
Jun-20-05 02:38 PM |
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But that already assumes that after sinking the ship |
Vladimir |
Jun-20-05 09:22 AM |
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I am afraid they have already made their mind up, forget the facts |
still_one |
Jun-20-05 09:28 AM |
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You haven't even bothered to look at the facts. You went to CNN |
Mzztakable |
Jun-20-05 09:37 AM |
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There is nothing that can make me believe the Israelis didn't know they |
Mzztakable |
Jun-20-05 09:31 AM |
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But this was not my point |
Vladimir |
Jun-20-05 09:42 AM |
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Proving that they were to blame the Arabs is a red herring. |
The Stranger |
Jun-20-05 09:44 AM |
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What have I conceded? |
Vladimir |
Jun-20-05 09:48 AM |
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That's SHE! |
Mzztakable |
Jun-20-05 09:50 AM |
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The only point I want to know is to SHOW me where |
still_one |
Jun-20-05 09:52 AM |
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What do you mean by "strategic advantage" and don't you think that a real |
Mzztakable |
Jun-20-05 09:57 AM |
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yes the U.S. covered it up, a real investigation should have been done |
still_one |
Jun-20-05 10:18 AM |
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Both Israel and Palestine have the right to exist. I do believe regarding |
Mzztakable |
Jun-20-05 10:29 AM |
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touche' |
still_one |
Jun-20-05 10:43 AM |
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Doesn't quite fly (so to speak) |
eyl |
Jun-20-05 10:53 AM |
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Who is Michael Oren |
Mzztakable |
Jun-20-05 11:27 AM |
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Shrug |
eyl |
Jun-20-05 12:38 PM |
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Perhaps you didn't see my original post |
Mzztakable |
Jun-20-05 09:48 AM |
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OK, I did see it |
Vladimir |
Jun-20-05 09:55 AM |
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Is the second link taking you to a "Don Marquis" website? That happened to |
Mzztakable |
Jun-20-05 10:00 AM |
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Yes it is |
Vladimir |
Jun-20-05 10:12 AM |
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Israel was WRONG to attack the liberty |
still_one |
Jun-20-05 10:21 AM |
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The thing that pisses me off the most is how the survivors have been |
Mzztakable |
Jun-20-05 10:57 AM |
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that is mostly to blame on the U.S. government |
still_one |
Jun-20-05 10:59 AM |
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and Israelis as well |
Mzztakable |
Jun-20-05 11:34 AM |
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no, the cover-up is the fault of the U.S. |
still_one |
Jun-20-05 11:39 AM |
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I was talking about the survivors being called liars, anti-semites, etc. |
Mzztakable |
Jun-20-05 12:07 PM |
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Jim Ennes |
Coastie for Truth |
Jun-20-05 01:03 PM |
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The coverup of Pueblo and Liberty |
Coastie for Truth |
Jun-20-05 01:06 PM |
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My cousin Phil |
Coastie for Truth |
Jun-20-05 12:36 PM |
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What pisses me off is how Libertysurvivor Jim Ennes |
Coastie for Truth |
Jun-20-05 12:34 PM |
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Jun-20-05 10:24 AM |
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Yeah, you see its the bit where the author says |
Vladimir |
Jun-20-05 10:29 AM |
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Nothing will ever be proven unless there is a complete investigation. |
Mzztakable |
Jun-20-05 10:51 AM |
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I would blame it on the same |
Coastie for Truth |
Jun-20-05 12:40 PM |
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USS Liberty - USS Pueblo - Chief of Naval Intelligence |
Coastie for Truth |
Jun-20-05 12:29 PM |
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Whatreallyhappened is known as an anti-semitic site. |
geek tragedy |
Jun-20-05 12:34 PM |
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MediaMonitors.net Recent Article about USS Liberty |
graphixtech |
Jun-20-05 12:38 PM |
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Media sources |
Behind the Aegis |
Jun-20-05 05:16 PM |
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its pretty obviously was a mistake..... |
pelsar |
Jun-20-05 02:26 PM |
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I disagree completely. |
redqueen |
Jun-20-05 09:20 AM |
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Would the IWR have passed without so much assistance by pro-Israel folks? |
PurityOfEssence |
Jun-20-05 09:25 AM |
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don't speak of logic, that may mean we need to actually think |
still_one |
Jun-20-05 09:31 AM |
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Substitute "China" for "Israel" |
donkeyotay |
Jun-20-05 09:36 AM |
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Look, people. The Bush admin is to blame. Full stop. |
Kagemusha |
Jun-20-05 09:46 AM |
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Amen. The voice of sanity. |
trebizond |
Jun-20-05 10:16 AM |
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Israel is being held captive by US... |
readmylips |
Jun-20-05 09:57 AM |
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The cry of "anti-Semtism" everytime somone critices Israeli policies in |
bribri16 |
Jun-20-05 10:04 AM |
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And exactly why is it only Israel that you can't talk about? I will never |
jasop |
Jun-20-05 10:09 AM |
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Just like in the 1970's |
Coastie for Truth |
Jun-20-05 05:04 PM |
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Sometimes the cries need to be heard... |
Behind the Aegis |
Jun-20-05 11:44 AM |
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Amen. I am deeply distressed by both the ignorance and |
Colorado Blue |
Jun-20-05 12:13 PM |
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It was kind of like the cry of Limousine Liberals |
Coastie for Truth |
Jun-20-05 03:53 PM |
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Kinda like the cry of the limousine liberals in the 1970's |
Coastie for Truth |
Jun-20-05 03:56 PM |
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Like in the 1970's |
Coastie for Truth |
Jun-20-05 05:23 PM |
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"there is no place in this debate" for Nadler to call Israel "her" |
donsu |
Jun-20-05 10:11 AM |
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And Shell Oil isn't |
Coastie for Truth |
Jun-20-05 03:45 PM |
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87 posts and still no third vote to send this thread to the "Greatest" |
The Stranger |
Jun-20-05 11:37 AM |
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I've seen better threads on a thrift-shop suit. |
Jim Sagle |
Jun-20-05 06:39 PM |
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I think a real case can be made for some Texans |
Coastie for Truth |
Jun-20-05 12:04 PM |
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Looks like fair or unfair it will involve Israel |
Burried News |
Jun-20-05 02:08 PM |
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If you don't think oil is the big, primary, number one motivator |
Coastie for Truth |
Jun-20-05 03:40 PM |
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A generation from now |
Coastie for Truth |
Jun-20-05 02:54 PM |
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Can someone tell me why Israel is off the table as a topic for discussion? |
Zerex71 |
Jun-20-05 04:08 PM |
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It isn't. |
Behind the Aegis |
Jun-20-05 04:46 PM |
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Jun-21-05 06:47 PM |
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Wrong On Two Counts---- |
Coastie for Truth |
Jun-20-05 05:01 PM |
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Jun-20-05 10:51 PM |
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Jun-20-05 11:33 PM |
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Jun-21-05 11:29 AM |
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Well, I don't really think Jewish victimhood has a hell of a |
Colorado Blue |
Jun-21-05 01:47 PM |
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Jun-21-05 02:21 PM |
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views |
Behind the Aegis |
Jun-21-05 02:44 PM |
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What's your point? |
Zerex71 |
Jun-21-05 03:20 PM |
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Implications |
Behind the Aegis |
Jun-21-05 03:40 PM |
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That's not anti-Semitic in the least bit. |
Zerex71 |
Jun-21-05 04:17 PM |
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let's be very clear |
Behind the Aegis |
Jun-21-05 04:23 PM |
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No, I never said that. |
Zerex71 |
Jun-21-05 04:29 PM |
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And the fact still remains.... |
Behind the Aegis |
Jun-21-05 04:34 PM |
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Who's saying it's the biggest role? |
Zerex71 |
Jun-21-05 05:03 PM |
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Jun-21-05 04:19 PM |
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Wrong definition |
Behind the Aegis |
Jun-21-05 04:31 PM |
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I'm not hostile or prejudiced against Jews, nor do I discriminate against |
Zerex71 |
Jun-21-05 04:54 PM |
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Banned words |
Behind the Aegis |
Jun-21-05 04:58 PM |
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Jun-21-05 05:01 PM |
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Not as much as the Oil overlords! |
Behind the Aegis |
Jun-21-05 05:04 PM |
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Jun-21-05 04:56 PM |
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Lots of power |
Behind the Aegis |
Jun-21-05 05:02 PM |
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I would remind people to look up how much money and materiel |
Zerex71 |
Jun-21-05 05:04 PM |
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People have also forgotten what real anti-Semitism is. |
Zerex71 |
Jun-21-05 04:58 PM |
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Zerex....cant distinguish? |
pelsar |
Jun-21-05 10:43 PM |
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Now the Evangelicals |
Coastie for Truth |
Jun-20-05 05:37 PM |
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I originally blamed Israel for this war... |
DixieDem |
Jun-20-05 07:30 PM |
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That's funny... |
newyorican |
Jun-20-05 11:03 PM |
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Why is |
Lithos |
Jun-21-05 07:24 AM |
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The link... |
newyorican |
Jun-21-05 05:15 PM |
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I believe the official position of AIPAC |
Lithos |
Jun-21-05 11:00 PM |
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Even so, the thrust remains the same: Israel somehow |
Colorado Blue |
Jun-21-05 01:31 PM |
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I have come to the conclusion... |
newyorican |
Jun-21-05 05:31 PM |
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Heck, I predicted Iraq-2 would be a disaster for Israel. |
bemildred |
Jun-21-05 05:50 PM |
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no...you havent proved anything.... |
pelsar |
Jun-21-05 10:51 PM |
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Unfortunately, you have also... |
newyorican |
Jun-21-05 11:50 PM |
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ok.... |
pelsar |
Jun-22-05 01:36 AM |
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I agree with your statement! |
Colorado Blue |
Jun-23-05 12:23 AM |
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Nadler RRRAWWWKSSS, and so does Israel! |
Jim Sagle |
Jun-22-05 12:08 AM |
#160 |
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