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Colorado Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 12:11 AM
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12. I just ran into this very sentiment today on your Rangel
thread:

"The poll also showed that large portions of the European public continue to believe that Jews still talk too much about what happened to them in the Holocaust."

SOME PEOPLE really get upset when we Jews talk about the Holocaust, and accuse us of going into victim mode, so forth, when we get annoyed at people who try and conflate the Holocaust with other disasters, or refuse to acknowledge either its awesome horror or its uniqueness as a Jewish disaster or - most disturbing - the fact that it was only the most recent catastrophe in a long list of catastrophes, that have happened to the Jewish people.

The UN actually brought that up in an antisemitism conference. Basically, they concluded that Jews should stop having such tsuris over the Holocaust, stop trying to "own" it, more or less; and also they seemed to conclude that there wouldn't be so much antisemitism if there weren't any Jews. Which is logical, I guess:)

Also, there's a great reluctance among people to look at the culture that creates such victimizations, especially when the religious aspect comes into play. I believe that people feel threatened when one doesn't agree that THEIR god is THE god. That's behind a lot of it but nobody really wants to confront that because then they'd have to question their own beliefs, and maybe also their own inchoate prejudice. So they assume that the non-believers are bad in some way or find other avenues in which to belittle them - like by accusing us of going into victim mode, or denying the impact or uniqueness of the Holocaust, while simultaneously protesting that they're aren't, in fact, doing that very thing.

As for solutions, I, personally, think that NON-JEWS have too much power:)
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