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Aidoneus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 12:54 PM
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31. 1391 for example?
Edited on Mon Sep-27-04 12:58 PM by Aidoneus
on edit: somebody already mentioned 1391.. :(

Where is your article on these mythical secret Palestinian-run prisons? Short of temporary denentions, I have not heard of such things and I consider myself somewhat well-read. Assumed or lack of desires for such aside, the conditions on the ground rather forbid such "secret" anythings on their part, let alone the execution of such facilities..
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  -Reuters: Armed Men Seize CNN (Producer) in Gaza-Witnesses DeepModem Mom  Sep-27-04 12:19 PM   #0 
  - Abducted by who, any idea if it was Hamas or Israeli secret police?  whistle   Sep-27-04 12:22 PM   #1 
  - Abducted by which side?  htuttle   Sep-27-04 12:22 PM   #2 
  - A CNN International producer was kidnapped?  manco   Sep-27-04 12:22 PM   #3 
  - It was only a matter of time....  XanthaS   Sep-27-04 12:23 PM   #4 
  - How can you guys ask which side?  a_random_joel   Sep-27-04 12:24 PM   #5 
  - Oh, plenty of reasons.  Minstrel Boy   Sep-27-04 12:26 PM   #6 
  - There's a difference...  a_random_joel   Sep-27-04 12:31 PM   #7 
     - And as I said, "it wasn't even a black bag job"  Minstrel Boy   Sep-27-04 12:33 PM   #9 
     - You want to talk morally reprehensible?  a_random_joel   Sep-27-04 12:37 PM   #12 
        - Absolutely  DemFromMem   Sep-27-04 01:00 PM   #35 
     - Whatever you say. I've seen pictures of some of the Palestinian....  Media_Lies_Daily   Sep-27-04 12:36 PM   #11 
     - The key is INTENT  a_random_joel   Sep-27-04 12:39 PM   #14 
        - Intentions are held in the heart.  Minstrel Boy   Sep-27-04 12:45 PM   #18 
        - A suicide bomber going into a shopping mall.  a_random_joel   Sep-27-04 12:46 PM   #20 
           - A gunship over Gaza  Minstrel Boy   Sep-27-04 12:48 PM   #23 
           - Two different scenarios. The gunship is going after militants.  a_random_joel   Sep-27-04 12:51 PM   #27 
              - Why do you assume this?  Aidoneus   Sep-27-04 12:57 PM   #33 
              - Ummm, because there are numerous reports of it.  a_random_joel   Sep-27-04 01:05 PM   #42 
              - the difference is one of labels only....  mike_c   Sep-27-04 01:05 PM   #41 
                 - Deleted message  Name removed   Sep-27-04 01:12 PM   #45 
                    - of course I acknowledge that the intifada has caused suffering...  mike_c   Sep-27-04 01:32 PM   #51 
                    - Deleted message  Name removed   Sep-27-04 10:42 PM   #58 
                       - All  Lithos   Sep-27-04 11:18 PM   #61 
                          - Apologies if I offended anyone  a_random_joel   Sep-28-04 10:49 AM   #66 
           - So does a missile fired into an apartment building, or a bulldozer....  Media_Lies_Daily   Sep-27-04 12:48 PM   #24 
              - The intended target is the difference.  a_random_joel   Sep-27-04 12:52 PM   #28 
                 - US killed how many hundreds in Fallujah last week?  Minstrel Boy   Sep-27-04 12:54 PM   # 
                 - Knowing full well that the "intended target" is surrounded by people,...  Media_Lies_Daily   Sep-27-04 12:56 PM   #32 
                    - No, it's not OK. But there is still a difference between that and  a_random_joel   Sep-27-04 01:05 PM   #40 
        - Oh, brother. You need to do some serious homework.  Media_Lies_Daily   Sep-27-04 12:47 PM   #21 
        - I can easily say the same thing to you.  a_random_joel   Sep-27-04 12:49 PM   #25 
           - Until you come up with a link for ANY "Palestinian secret prison" you...  Media_Lies_Daily   Sep-27-04 12:59 PM   #34 
              - It was a rhetorical device.  a_random_joel   Sep-27-04 01:04 PM   #39 
        - Palestine has no army, so Isreal does indeed target civilians....  mike_c   Sep-27-04 01:03 PM   #37 
           - Israel has an army, Palestinians target civillians ANYWAY.  a_random_joel   Sep-27-04 01:20 PM   #48 
              - Israel would not exist  Djinn   Sep-27-04 10:45 PM   #59 
     - Maybe he wasn't regarded as "an innocent press person"  Minstrel Boy   Sep-27-04 12:42 PM   #16 
        - Journalists in war zones get shot.  a_random_joel   Sep-27-04 12:45 PM   #19 
           - "Theres a pattern of shooting at journalists"  Minstrel Boy   Sep-27-04 12:50 PM   #26 
              - Joel admits Israeli flaws; opponents will not do the same re:Palestinians  a_random_joel   Sep-27-04 01:13 PM   #46 
                 - "I have repeatedly admitted instances where Israelis have made mistakes"  Minstrel Boy   Sep-27-04 01:46 PM   #52 
                    - Fine. By mistakes I mean wrong doing.  a_random_joel   Sep-27-04 02:25 PM   #53 
  - If it was the Israelis, why do you assume it was a mistake?  Media_Lies_Daily   Sep-27-04 12:31 PM   #8 
  - I don't see the Israelis abducting innocents.  a_random_joel   Sep-27-04 12:34 PM   #10 
     - I see the right-wing fanatics in the Likud Party controlling Israeli's  w4rma   Sep-27-04 12:39 PM   #13 
     - Really?  a_random_joel   Sep-27-04 12:41 PM   #15 
     - Before hearing about the Abu Ghraib and Gitmo prisons...  Media_Lies_Daily   Sep-27-04 12:44 PM   #17 
     - Balance.  a_random_joel   Sep-27-04 12:48 PM   #22 
        - "Palestinians' secret prisons"??? Are you at all familiar with that....  Media_Lies_Daily   Sep-27-04 12:52 PM   #29 
        - Again, it was a rhetorical device.  a_random_joel   Sep-27-04 01:07 PM   #43 
        - 1391 for example?  Aidoneus   Sep-27-04 12:54 PM   #31 
           - Joel admits Israeli flaws; opponents will not do the same re:Palestinians  a_random_joel   Sep-27-04 01:13 PM   #47 
              - Where is your article on these prisons?  Aidoneus   Sep-27-04 01:27 PM   #50 
                 - There are no "organized prisons." I have repeatedly said I was using  a_random_joel   Sep-27-04 02:28 PM   #54 
     - on the contrary,  Aidoneus   Sep-27-04 12:52 PM   #30 
        - Joel admits Israeli flaws; opponents will not do the same re:Palestinians  a_random_joel   Sep-27-04 01:12 PM   #44 
           - Forkboy is amused by people refferring to themselves in the third person  Forkboy   Sep-28-04 12:23 AM   #63 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Sep-27-04 10:37 PM   #57 
     - Whatever you say, chief.  a_random_joel   Sep-28-04 10:51 AM   #67 
     - Palestinian MO as well, as confirmed by Reuters and history.  a_random_joel   Sep-28-04 10:54 AM   #68 
  - horrible, I hope he's ok...  wicket   Sep-27-04 01:01 PM   #36 
  - Did CNN coin the phrase, "Amercia's New War"  Dr Fate   Sep-27-04 01:03 PM   #38 
  - Maybe now CNN will go back to reporting the truth instead of being a  Surf Cowboy   Sep-27-04 01:26 PM   #49 
  - UPDATE: Per Reuters - it WAS Palestinians.  a_random_joel   Sep-27-04 02:33 PM   #55 
     - Hmmm... Awfully quiet in here now...  a_random_joel   Sep-27-04 02:51 PM   #56 
        - Deleted message  Name removed   Sep-27-04 10:52 PM   #60 
        - no they just gave  Djinn   Sep-27-04 11:39 PM   #62 
           - Thanks  IA_Seth   Sep-28-04 08:57 AM   #64 
           - You misunderstood my point  a_random_joel   Sep-28-04 10:47 AM   #65 
              - Sounds good....  IA_Seth   Sep-28-04 11:17 AM   #69 
                 - You missed the boat again.  a_random_joel   Sep-28-04 11:32 AM   #70 
                    - LOL, my point exactly. N/T  IA_Seth   Sep-28-04 11:48 AM   #71 
                       - I already acknowledge Israeli flaws above. NOT ONE OF YOU has...  a_random_joel   Sep-28-04 11:55 AM   #72 
                       - LOL! Is this thing on?  a_random_joel   Sep-28-04 12:31 PM   #73 
                       - Bueller? Bueller?  a_random_joel   Sep-28-04 01:19 PM   #74 
                          - Don't get your panties in a bunch now.  IA_Seth   Sep-28-04 04:07 PM   #75 
                             - Arrogance will get you nowhere fast, friend.  a_random_joel   Sep-28-04 04:27 PM   #76 
                                - LOL  IA_Seth   Sep-28-04 04:31 PM   #77 
                                - LOL!  a_random_joel   Sep-28-04 04:54 PM   #78 
                                - coz Seth's the arrogant one??  Djinn   Sep-28-04 06:50 PM   #79 
                                   - We're done and have resolved our differences peacefully.  a_random_joel   Sep-28-04 06:57 PM   #80 
                                      - whatever  Djinn   Sep-28-04 07:17 PM   #81 
                                      - "And if you perceive that as being arrogant, congratulations."  Forkboy   Sep-28-04 07:55 PM   #82 
                                         - a Brand, New 2004 Fork!  a_random_joel   Sep-29-04 10:48 AM   #83 
 

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