You are viewing an obsolete version of the DU website which is no longer supported by the Administrators. Visit The New DU.
Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Reply #39: The Palestinians take our money too. [View All]

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Topic Forums » Israel/Palestine Donate to DU
Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-04 08:39 PM
Response to Reply #30
39. The Palestinians take our money too.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
  -From the Bullet to the Ballot: A Strategic Shift in the Palestinian Strugg Classical_Liberal  Apr-22-04 03:17 PM   #0 
  - LOL  Muddleoftheroad   Apr-22-04 03:22 PM   #1 
  - Blacks were not citizens of this country at one time  Classical_Liberal   Apr-22-04 03:36 PM   #5 
     - The South Africa comparison remains bogus  Muddleoftheroad   Apr-22-04 04:12 PM   #7 
     - So then you're still left with Jim Crow and the Confederacy  Classical_Liberal   Apr-22-04 04:30 PM   #9 
        - Huh?  Muddleoftheroad   Apr-22-04 04:51 PM   #11 
           - Were black people citizens in the US before the civil war?  Classical_Liberal   Apr-22-04 04:54 PM   #14 
              - You're probably going somewhere  Muddleoftheroad   Apr-22-04 07:18 PM   #19 
                 - They did live in Israel  Classical_Liberal   Apr-22-04 07:54 PM   #22 
                 - They can make peace  Muddleoftheroad   Apr-22-04 08:12 PM   #24 
                    - It didn't have that impact last time there was peace.  Classical_Liberal   Apr-22-04 08:22 PM   #27 
                       - When was there peace?  Muddleoftheroad   Apr-22-04 08:29 PM   #31 
                          - Whatever  Classical_Liberal   Apr-22-04 08:32 PM   #34 
                 - "The Palestinians everyone keeps speaking of do NOT live in Israel"  Jack Rabbit   Apr-22-04 09:36 PM   #50 
                    - Israeli citizens remain Israeli citizens  Muddleoftheroad   Apr-22-04 09:42 PM   #51 
                       - Since Israel has not annexed those territories  Jack Rabbit   Apr-22-04 10:05 PM   #56 
                          - Disputed means the final border is unsettled  Muddleoftheroad   Apr-22-04 11:39 PM   #68 
                             - No, that's not what it means...  Violet_Crumble   Apr-22-04 11:55 PM   #71 
     - Regarding Israeli citizenship  Alex88   Apr-22-04 10:49 PM   #58 
  - The one-state solution is a blueprint for genocide.  Jim Sagle   Apr-22-04 03:23 PM   #2 
  - nice sloganeering.  Classical_Liberal   Apr-22-04 03:33 PM   #4 
     - He was just being honest  Muddleoftheroad   Apr-22-04 04:13 PM   #8 
     - What opportunity has been presented other than bantustan  Classical_Liberal   Apr-22-04 04:30 PM   #10 
        - That offer Arafat walked away from  Muddleoftheroad   Apr-22-04 04:52 PM   #12 
           - If you think such offers worked well for Ireland  Classical_Liberal   Apr-22-04 04:53 PM   #13 
              - I guess statehood is horrible, huh?  Muddleoftheroad   Apr-22-04 07:19 PM   #20 
                 - Partition happened in 1919  Classical_Liberal   Apr-22-04 08:25 PM   #28 
                    - Partition happened and was followed years later by statehood  Muddleoftheroad   Apr-22-04 08:30 PM   #32 
                       - The Irish will eventually outnumber the protestants  Classical_Liberal   Apr-22-04 08:38 PM   #37 
                          - They are both Irish  Muddleoftheroad   Apr-22-04 08:56 PM   #42 
                             - The Protestants are mostly British  Classical_Liberal   Apr-22-04 09:06 PM   #45 
                                - If I were born in Scotland, I will still be Scottish  Muddleoftheroad   Apr-22-04 09:44 PM   #52 
                                   - They already compromised by giving Israel 1948 land  Classical_Liberal   Apr-22-04 10:53 PM   #59 
                                      - They didn't give squat  Muddleoftheroad   Apr-22-04 11:34 PM   #64 
                                         - How can the lose a war they didn't start?  Classical_Liberal   Apr-23-04 12:33 AM   #72 
                                            - Not the spoils of war  Muddleoftheroad   Apr-23-04 12:35 AM   #73 
                                               - They didn't take part in the war at all unless as individuals  Classical_Liberal   Apr-23-04 12:42 AM   #78 
                                                  - If enough individuals do something  Muddleoftheroad   Apr-23-04 12:49 AM   #81 
                                                  - Never the less those places are self governing  Classical_Liberal   Apr-23-04 12:53 AM   #83 
                                                  - Of course, those areas also don't blow up babies deliberately  Muddleoftheroad   Apr-23-04 06:41 AM   #89 
                                                  - The holocaust. The rape of nanking?  Classical_Liberal   Apr-23-04 07:01 PM   #96 
                                                  - They surrendered  Muddleoftheroad   Apr-23-04 07:04 PM   #97 
                                                  - If after they had surrendered we had governed it for 37 yrs  Classical_Liberal   Apr-23-04 07:09 PM   #100 
     - Show me where I said Palestinians are evil.  Jim Sagle   Apr-22-04 05:11 PM   #15 
        - Why is the one state solution a "blueprint for genocide"?  Classical_Liberal   Apr-22-04 05:26 PM   #16 
           - Because the Palestinians will end up the majority and vote the Jews out of  Jim Sagle   Apr-22-04 06:00 PM   #17 
              - So you must think Palestinians are evil.  Classical_Liberal   Apr-22-04 06:17 PM   #18 
                 - The Arabs ethnically cleansed the Jews elsewhere  Muddleoftheroad   Apr-22-04 07:21 PM   #21 
                 - Arab ethnic cleansing of Jews only happened as a response  Classical_Liberal   Apr-22-04 07:59 PM   #23 
                    - I think my views are based in 2,000 years of activity  Muddleoftheroad   Apr-22-04 08:14 PM   #25 
                       - I wouldn't move just because a desendent of a persecuted wanted  Classical_Liberal   Apr-22-04 08:27 PM   #29 
                       - The Green Line is a dead issue  Muddleoftheroad   Apr-22-04 08:31 PM   #33 
                          - I think the two state solution itself is dead because of it  Classical_Liberal   Apr-22-04 08:35 PM   #35 
                             - Demographics are no threat  Muddleoftheroad   Apr-22-04 08:38 PM   #36 
                                - So long as they govern the West Bank they are a  Classical_Liberal   Apr-22-04 08:39 PM   #38 
                                   - Israel has no motivation to "get the hell out" without peace  Muddleoftheroad   Apr-22-04 09:44 PM   #53 
                                      - It had a period of peace, no terrorism, it didn't leave.  Classical_Liberal   Apr-22-04 11:02 PM   #60 
                                         - So basically, you seem to think all options are equally bad?  Muddleoftheroad   Apr-22-04 11:35 PM   #65 
                                            - Number 1 and 2 are ok with me.  Classical_Liberal   Apr-23-04 12:35 AM   #74 
                                               - It has  Muddleoftheroad   Apr-23-04 12:38 AM   #76 
                                               - Deleted message  Name removed   Apr-23-04 12:46 AM   #79 
                       - Why does ethnic cleansing onlymatter when it happens to the Jewish people?  Violet_Crumble   Apr-22-04 11:45 PM   #70 
                 - No skin off you if you're wrong, huh?  Jim Sagle   Apr-22-04 08:18 PM   #26 
                    - It's also no skin off my nose if the Israelis ethnically cleans  Classical_Liberal   Apr-22-04 08:29 PM   #30 
                       - The Palestinians take our money too.  Jim Sagle   Apr-22-04 08:39 PM   #39 
                          - I don't approve of that either  Classical_Liberal   Apr-22-04 08:44 PM   #40 
                             - Yeah, because that will bring peace  Muddleoftheroad   Apr-22-04 08:57 PM   #43 
                                - I doubt that  Classical_Liberal   Apr-22-04 09:09 PM   #46 
                                   - Now you assume Europe will intervene for the Palestinians?  Muddleoftheroad   Apr-22-04 09:45 PM   #54 
                                      - yes, most of them will if the effort is placed there  Classical_Liberal   Apr-22-04 11:06 PM   #61 
                                         - Well, the U.S. won't  Muddleoftheroad   Apr-22-04 11:36 PM   #66 
                                            - The US can't force me to buy Israeli products  Classical_Liberal   Apr-23-04 12:37 AM   #75 
                                               - It can force businesses NOT to boycott  Muddleoftheroad   Apr-23-04 12:38 AM   #77 
                                                  - How can it force businesses to buy israeli products  Classical_Liberal   Apr-23-04 12:48 AM   #80 
                                                     - Case a little while back  Muddleoftheroad   Apr-23-04 06:59 AM   #91 
                                                     - Can you provide a citation?  Classical_Liberal   Apr-23-04 06:56 PM   #93 
                                                     - I saw it here in I/P but can't readily find it  Muddleoftheroad   Apr-23-04 07:05 PM   #98 
  - n/t  Classical_Liberal   Apr-22-04 03:30 PM   #3 
  - nice post  buddy22600   Apr-22-04 03:59 PM   #6 
  - Classical_Liberal, I salute you ...  number6   Apr-22-04 08:49 PM   #41 
  - It's still there, the Palestinians need only agree to peace  Muddleoftheroad   Apr-22-04 08:58 PM   #44 
     - I believe, you believe that ...but I'm skeptical..  number6   Apr-22-04 09:10 PM   #47 
     - Muddle admits they won't give them land for it  Classical_Liberal   Apr-22-04 09:17 PM   #49 
        - Not at all  Muddleoftheroad   Apr-22-04 09:46 PM   #55 
           - The Palestinians have already compromised  Classical_Liberal   Apr-22-04 11:11 PM   #63 
              - What compromise?  Muddleoftheroad   Apr-22-04 11:37 PM   #67 
                 - I guess you slept through Oslo as well  Classical_Liberal   Apr-23-04 12:54 AM   #84 
     - They won't get anything from peace or war  Classical_Liberal   Apr-22-04 09:12 PM   #48 
        - Tell them, not us.  Jim Sagle   Apr-22-04 10:26 PM   #57 
           - They can read  Classical_Liberal   Apr-22-04 11:08 PM   #62 
              - Genocidal boycott - like killing for peace.  Jim Sagle   Apr-22-04 11:39 PM   #69 
                 - How is a boycott genocide?  Classical_Liberal   Apr-23-04 12:50 AM   #82 
                    - it could lead to the total destruction of a small nation that is basically  Jim Sagle   Apr-23-04 12:57 AM   #85 
                       - The course Sharon is taking is more likely to do that in my view.  Classical_Liberal   Apr-23-04 01:03 AM   #86 
                          - You're half right, I think. But Sharon didn't happen in a vacuum.  Jim Sagle   Apr-23-04 01:16 AM   #87 
                             - nothing happens in a vacuum  Classical_Liberal   Apr-23-04 03:10 AM   #88 
                                - You have a funny sense of "beginning"  Muddleoftheroad   Apr-23-04 06:48 AM   #90 
                                   - That's nice  Classical_Liberal   Apr-23-04 06:57 PM   #94 
                                      - So? You cited a beginning  Muddleoftheroad   Apr-23-04 07:06 PM   #99 
                                         - I don't think Israels claim is more legitmate that the Palestinians.  Classical_Liberal   Apr-23-04 07:20 PM   #101 
                                            - I also want two independent states  Muddleoftheroad   Apr-23-04 08:22 PM   #102 
  - The Palestinians tried to push  Vladimir   Apr-23-04 07:55 AM   #92 
     - I'll except either one, though I am down on the two state  Classical_Liberal   Apr-23-04 06:59 PM   #95 
 

Home » Discuss » Topic Forums » Israel/Palestine Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC