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sir_captain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 07:17 PM
Response to Reply #18
33. What are you talking about?
Other than the people of Berlin, who got caught up in the US/Soviet powerplay, how did the German citizens pay a brutal price after WWII? I'll grant that the firebombings in Dresden, etc, were pretty brutal, but so were the bombings in London. As far as I see, Germany had its economy rebuilt and was made into a thriving democratic nation by the Marshall plan. I don't remember every German being hanged at the Nuremberg Trials--did I miss something?
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  -Was Israel justified in killing Sheik Ahmed Yassin, Hamas leader. Feanorcurufinwe  Mar-22-04 06:26 PM   #0 
  - Yes.  a_random_joel   Mar-22-04 06:27 PM   #1 
  - From strictly a moral perspective, I'm not crying for Yassin...  drumwolf   Mar-22-04 06:31 PM   #2 
  - From a purely moral perspective, yes...  Darranar   Mar-22-04 06:39 PM   #3 
  - The real blood shed starts now.  RC   Mar-22-04 06:42 PM   #4 
  - The wheel chair bound can still commit or incite violence.  a_random_joel   Mar-22-04 07:02 PM   #12 
  - It was morally reprehensible  Walt Starr   Mar-22-04 06:42 PM   #5 
  - That would be a tiny bit understandable  sir_captain   Mar-22-04 06:55 PM   #6 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Mar-22-04 06:56 PM   #8 
     - So...  Darranar   Mar-22-04 06:59 PM   #10 
        - Israel has been brutally murdering Palestinains for years  Walt Starr   Mar-22-04 07:01 PM   #11 
           - And so that excuses Palestinians brutally murdering Israelis?  Darranar   Mar-22-04 07:03 PM   #13 
              - No, it doesn't, but it is an understandable and very human response.  Walt Starr   Mar-22-04 07:05 PM   #17 
                 - "Understandable" and "justified" are different things...  Darranar   Mar-22-04 07:10 PM   #19 
                    - Hamas murderering Israelis is 100% AS justified as what Israel did  Walt Starr   Mar-22-04 07:11 PM   #22 
                       - Well, I DON'T think that Israel's actions are justified...  Darranar   Mar-22-04 07:15 PM   #26 
                       - Deleted message  Name removed   Mar-22-04 07:17 PM   #32 
                          - I was referring to "Israel's actions" in a general sense...  Darranar   Mar-22-04 07:19 PM   #36 
                          - Morally reprehensible??  JohnLocke   Mar-22-04 07:20 PM   #38 
                             - Deleted message  Name removed   Mar-22-04 07:22 PM   #39 
                             - "a mullah with (sic) stron opinions"!  JohnLocke   Mar-22-04 07:24 PM   #45 
                                - Prove to me he was a terrorist  Walt Starr   Mar-22-04 07:25 PM   #48 
                                   - Here you go:  sir_captain   Mar-22-04 07:28 PM   #54 
                                      - I see no proof in that article  Walt Starr   Mar-22-04 07:32 PM   #64 
                                         - If you don't think Hamas kills people  sir_captain   Mar-22-04 07:35 PM   #71 
                             - As an American I am committed to the notion of due process.  liberal_veteran   Mar-22-04 07:22 PM   #42 
                                - Assassination is a tricky word in a time of war.  a_random_joel   Mar-22-04 07:36 PM   #72 
                       - Disagree  JohnLocke   Mar-22-04 07:16 PM   #28 
                          - End result, dead civilians  Walt Starr   Mar-22-04 07:18 PM   #35 
                             - So you don't consider intent at all?  JohnLocke   Mar-22-04 07:22 PM   #41 
                                - Well, since we only have the Israeli side as to intent  Walt Starr   Mar-22-04 07:23 PM   #43 
                                   - That's simply not true  sir_captain   Mar-22-04 07:24 PM   #46 
                                      - Well look at which faction within Hamas this guy was from  Walt Starr   Mar-22-04 07:26 PM   #49 
                                         - Do you not realize that he was the leader of ALL of Hamas  sir_captain   Mar-22-04 07:28 PM   #52 
                                            - My question is where does this kind of thing stop?  liberal_veteran   Mar-22-04 07:31 PM   #62 
                                               - Right now...  Darranar   Mar-22-04 07:33 PM   #66 
                                               - I see only one way to stop the violence  Walt Starr   Mar-22-04 07:33 PM   #67 
                                               - Yeah, I agree mostly  sir_captain   Mar-22-04 07:33 PM   #68 
  - I get it  a_random_joel   Mar-22-04 06:56 PM   #7 
  - Why?  Darranar   Mar-22-04 06:57 PM   #9 
     - Answers  Walt Starr   Mar-22-04 07:03 PM   #14 
     - Okay...  Darranar   Mar-22-04 07:05 PM   #16 
        - Because all nations are responsible for the governments they instill  Walt Starr   Mar-22-04 07:08 PM   #18 
           - So...  Darranar   Mar-22-04 07:10 PM   #20 
           - Answers  Walt Starr   Mar-22-04 07:12 PM   #23 
              - You don't think 30,000 dead is ample retribution...  Darranar   Mar-22-04 07:18 PM   #34 
                 - Sorry, you read my post wrong  Walt Starr   Mar-22-04 07:24 PM   #44 
                    - So, what exactly did you mean?  Darranar   Mar-22-04 07:31 PM   #61 
           - Not necessarily.  JohnLocke   Mar-22-04 07:13 PM   #24 
           - What are you talking about?  sir_captain   Mar-22-04 07:17 PM   #33 
     - Need you really ask?  GabysPoppy   Mar-22-04 07:04 PM   #15 
  - Far better poll:  JohnLocke   Mar-22-04 07:10 PM   #21 
  - Here's the dillema  Walt Starr   Mar-22-04 07:15 PM   #25 
  - How, exactly...  Darranar   Mar-22-04 07:16 PM   #29 
  - Baloney  Walt Starr   Mar-22-04 07:20 PM   #37 
     - Wait...  sir_captain   Mar-22-04 07:22 PM   #40 
     - Under that logic, Sinn Fein is a terrorist organization  Walt Starr   Mar-22-04 07:28 PM   #53 
        - Fallacious analogy  sir_captain   Mar-22-04 07:30 PM   #56 
     - The Israeli press is more balanced than the American press...  Darranar   Mar-22-04 07:24 PM   #47 
     - I disagree  Walt Starr   Mar-22-04 07:29 PM   #55 
        - Do you actually read the Israeli press? n/t  Darranar   Mar-22-04 07:34 PM   #69 
        - Any evidence?  JohnLocke   Mar-22-04 07:42 PM   #79 
     - For starters...  JohnLocke   Mar-22-04 07:27 PM   #50 
        - And what if you are alleged to have committed mass murder  Walt Starr   Mar-22-04 07:30 PM   #57 
           - They're not allegations!  sir_captain   Mar-22-04 07:31 PM   #58 
              - Give me the quote where Yassin claimed responsibility  Walt Starr   Mar-22-04 07:34 PM   #70 
                 - Wish granted  sir_captain   Mar-22-04 07:39 PM   #75 
                    - Allow me -- "Gotcha!" (nt)  JohnLocke   Mar-22-04 07:41 PM   #77 
                    - Sorry, he didn't claim responsibility  Walt Starr   Mar-22-04 07:44 PM   #81 
  - No dilemma actually.  a_random_joel   Mar-22-04 07:27 PM   #51 
     - Dup  a_random_joel   Mar-22-04 07:31 PM   #59 
  - Indeed!  a_random_joel   Mar-22-04 07:15 PM   #27 
  - I vote #2 as well (nt).  JohnLocke   Mar-22-04 07:17 PM   #30 
  - I would have to go with number 4 to be honest.  liberal_veteran   Mar-22-04 07:17 PM   #31 
  - It was fun playing  Walt Starr   Mar-22-04 07:31 PM   #60 
  - How come we don't see polls asking whether suicide bombing is justified?  a_random_joel   Mar-22-04 07:32 PM   #63 
  - Here is one defender of the Palestinian cause...  Darranar   Mar-22-04 07:36 PM   #73 
     - Cool  a_random_joel   Mar-22-04 07:38 PM   #74 
     - Unfortunately, the people at the "other" site are probably bashing you...  JohnLocke   Mar-22-04 07:39 PM   #76 
     - I agree. I reserve my pity for the majority caught in the middle.  liberal_veteran   Mar-22-04 07:41 PM   #78 
  - Polls are allowed in the I/P forum now?  Wonk   Mar-22-04 07:32 PM   #65 
  - Locking per I/P guidelines  undergroundrailroad   Mar-22-04 07:43 PM   #80 
 

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