Reply #61: Exactly...

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You're talking apples and oranges here, the difference between influences from the past and the actual forming of the group. Hizbullah taking influences from something Mussa Sadr did in '69/'74/'78 doesn't mean they existed as a corporeal political/resistance group in that time period as you alternately are suggesting.

The same sort of argument as Gimel uses in this thread was used a few months ago in relation to the creation of Hamas. I really don't understand why some people seem to have so much difficulty understanding that because groups existed in the past that influenced a group, or that members of past groups joined a new group, that doesn't mean the new organisation has existed for longer than it actually has. That's like saying that crappy, boring Audioslave has existed for years, and seeing them as indistinguishable from the much more superior Rage Against The Machine because members of RATM are now in Audioslave...

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