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shira Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-11 12:37 PM
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In recent days, there has been a truly frightening articulation of the US administrations perception of Israel vis--vis the Muslim world. On Friday, Defense Secretary Leon Panetta essentially blamed Israel for its own increasing isolation, urging the Jewish state to reach out to its neighbors.

He suggested that Israel make diplomatic inroads with the Muslim Brotherhoods Egypt, Recep Tayyip Erdogans increasingly Islamist and anti-Israel Turkey, and vulnerable Jordan, a country whose leadership for the sake of self-preservation has been making concessions to its own Muslim Brotherhood.

And when asked at the end of his speech at the Brookings Institution in Washington what operative steps Israel could make to advance negotiations with the Palestinians, Panetta said: Just get to the damn table.

In other words, the clearly exasperated Panetta believes that if only stubborn Israel would make more concessions to the Palestinians, regional animosity toward Israel would miraculously evaporate after decades of incitement.

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  -Scary US views shira  Dec-07-11 12:37 PM   #0 
  - Israel frequently causes their own problems, mostly with their unwillingness to cooperate.  chrisa   Dec-07-11 12:39 PM   #1 
  - Not sure what's "Scary" about the opinions stated in  RT Atlanta   Dec-07-11 12:43 PM   #2 
  - Read on in the article for what's scary...  shira   Dec-07-11 01:13 PM   #6 
  - I'd say 'frightening' is in the eye of the beholder...  HereSince1628   Dec-07-11 12:44 PM   #3 
  - I don't see where it says they should just start making concessions  AmericaIsGreat   Dec-07-11 12:52 PM   #4 
  - Both Panetta and Gutman were given their posts by Barack Obama  azurnoir   Dec-07-11 12:53 PM   #5 
  - Can't say I know WTF is going on, but this is easy pickings for Repukes like Romney and Gingrich.  shira   Dec-07-11 01:16 PM   #7 
  - Really easy pickings? you think Republcans will win on Israel alone?  azurnoir   Dec-07-11 01:38 PM   #8 
     - These 3 remarks WRT Israel in the past few days look really amateurish. The Repukes don't need...  shira   Dec-07-11 01:54 PM   #10 
        - I'm sure they don't at least where some are concerned but for most Democrats  azurnoir   Dec-07-11 02:07 PM   #13 
  - Gutman apologized 100%  King_David   Dec-07-11 03:17 PM   #17 
     - you mean whether or not his apology is accepted? n/t  azurnoir   Dec-07-11 09:41 PM   #31 
        - Nah you missed the point  King_David   Dec-07-11 11:35 PM   #32 
           - Did he say he was wrong or that he was 'taken' wrong?  azurnoir   Dec-08-11 12:45 AM   #34 
  - The irony is rich:  Jefferson23   Dec-07-11 01:50 PM   #9 
  - Israel could go back to the strict 1949 armistice lines and it wouldn't matter one bit to the MB...  shira   Dec-07-11 01:58 PM   #11 
     - According to the shill/apologist who wrote the OP you posted, yea.  Jefferson23   Dec-07-11 02:06 PM   #12 
        - Oh yeah? Show me where the MB, its affiliates, or supporters endorse 2 states. NT  shira   Dec-07-11 02:15 PM   #14 
           - The Muslm Brotherhood is preventing Bibi from a two state solution..  Jefferson23   Dec-07-11 02:23 PM   #15 
              - WTF? No. Have you ever once seen the MB stating they'd agree to a peaceful 2 state solution?  shira   Dec-07-11 02:34 PM   #16 
                 - The Muslim Brotherhood is preventing Bibi? Otherwise your question  Jefferson23   Dec-07-11 05:12 PM   #19 
                    - This isn't about Bibi. What makes you think a Meretz run government could make Hamas and friends...  shira   Dec-07-11 05:16 PM   #21 
                       - This has everything to do with Bibi and his Likud buddies.  Jefferson23   Dec-07-11 05:24 PM   #22 
                          - Nice try. Not even Meretz could work out a peace deal with Hamas, Iran, or the MB.  shira   Dec-07-11 07:13 PM   #23 
                             - No, that is your opinion, offer the as you well know nonsense to someone else.  Jefferson23   Dec-07-11 07:18 PM   #24 
                                - Can you provide evidence demonstrating that either Hamas, the MB, or Iran will recognize Israel..  shira   Dec-07-11 07:23 PM   #25 
                                   - Ridiculous questions, ask the guy you called a clown on all things I/P.  Jefferson23   Dec-07-11 07:27 PM   #26 
                                      - That means 'No'. So you have zero evidence of Hamas, Iran, and the MB wanting to make peace...  shira   Dec-07-11 07:30 PM   #27 
                                         - You answer my questions for me, why bother to ask me at all shira.  Jefferson23   Dec-07-11 07:37 PM   #28 
                                            - You had your shot. You've got nothing. Thanks for playing. n/t  shira   Dec-07-11 07:38 PM   #29 
                                               - Oh come on, write Panetta, the Secretary of Defense..ask him  Jefferson23   Dec-07-11 07:41 PM   #30 
                                                  - But I'm asking you. Why don't you just admit you can't defend what you're arguing in favor of? NT  shira   Dec-08-11 04:39 PM   #46 
  - Panetta engaged in the classic of blaming the victim  vminfla   Dec-07-11 03:50 PM   #18 
     - lol, ok. More support for the shill/apologist that authored the OP. n/t  Jefferson23   Dec-07-11 05:14 PM   #20 
        - actually you avoid direct questions....  pelsar   Dec-08-11 12:22 AM   #33 
        - ah Pelsar you should check the comment your referring to  azurnoir   Dec-08-11 01:23 AM   #35 
        - You're confused pelsar. I am not the poster you are referring to.  Jefferson23   Dec-08-11 05:44 AM   #36 
           - oops..sorry...  pelsar   Dec-08-11 10:29 PM   #49 
           - No problem pelsar..hope springs eternal for us both.  Jefferson23   Dec-09-11 12:30 PM   #50 
           - You still avoided the question  vminfla   Dec-10-11 11:57 AM   #51 
        - This logical fallacy is called "attacking the messenger"  vminfla   Dec-08-11 08:18 AM   #37 
           - That's about all they have when they're trying to avoid answering simple questions. n/t  shira   Dec-08-11 08:27 AM   #38 
           - Don't forget recycling past memes  vminfla   Dec-08-11 09:09 AM   #39 
           - The content is bullshit and the author is a shill...no need to separate the two.  Jefferson23   Dec-08-11 01:37 PM   #40 
              - Would it be out of line to tell the USA to get to the damn table with al-Qaeda? n/t  shira   Dec-08-11 02:47 PM   #41 
              - The Palestinians and a terrorist group all the same to you.  Jefferson23   Dec-08-11 03:02 PM   #42 
                 - Hamas is a terror group that the PA is trying to form a coalition gov't with....  shira   Dec-08-11 04:36 PM   #45 
                    - I think most people reading your posts can figure out what is, as you say, "pretty obvious". n/t  Jefferson23   Dec-08-11 05:15 PM   #47 
                       - Yep, using empirical evidence & logic is obviously a zionist trick....  shira   Dec-08-11 05:24 PM   #48 
              - This logical fallacy is called a Argumentum ad Nauseum  vminfla   Dec-08-11 03:06 PM   #43 
                 - lol, sure thing champ. n/t  Jefferson23   Dec-08-11 03:07 PM   #44 
 

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