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shaayecanaan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-11 09:36 PM
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6. Really, this is fundamentally inaccurate...
given that the orthodox Jews are doing quite well. If anything it marks the death of "secular Judaism" - in itself a rather tenuous concept - rather than Judaism per se.

To the extent that there was anything substantial underpinning secular Judaism, it generally boiled down to commemoration of the holocaust. Compelling perhaps but not enough to really unite a community in the way that having a common language or religion does.
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  -Are Jews better off in Israel? bemildred  Dec-05-11 07:42 PM   #0 
  - If you listen to Republicans ...  zbdent   Dec-05-11 08:09 PM   #1 
  - It's one thing to call for a renewal of Jewish spirituality and culture in the U.S.  Ken Burch   Dec-05-11 08:25 PM   #2 
  - In order:  bemildred   Dec-05-11 11:07 PM   #10 
  - Jewish life is dying?  TomClash   Dec-05-11 08:25 PM   #3 
  - Glad to hear that.  Ken Burch   Dec-05-11 08:26 PM   #4 
     - Wishful thinking.  demosincebirth   Dec-05-11 08:45 PM   #5 
        - How can you be sure?  Ken Burch   Dec-05-11 10:29 PM   #7 
           - Judaism is alive in almost every country  demosincebirth   Dec-06-11 09:40 PM   #27 
              - As it should be.  Ken Burch   Dec-06-11 09:42 PM   #28 
  - Really, this is fundamentally inaccurate...  shaayecanaan   Dec-05-11 09:36 PM   #6 
  - That's a pretty sweeping and vicious statement you're making there.  Ken Burch   Dec-05-11 10:36 PM   #8 
  - I've known lapsed Irish Catholics that still wave the flag on St Paddy's day  shaayecanaan   Dec-06-11 12:45 AM   #14 
  - Yep. The Orthodox seem to be doing fine.  bemildred   Dec-05-11 11:18 PM   #12 
  - Deeply insulting and shamefully ignorant  oberliner   Dec-06-11 01:02 AM   #15 
     - The proof is in the pudding...  shaayecanaan   Dec-06-11 02:29 PM   #24 
  - Diaspora - Jews living outside of Isreal,,,why not a word for Irish living outside of Ireland?  angstlessk   Dec-05-11 10:47 PM   #9 
  - I found the closing statements of the article truly de-lish-us  azurnoir   Dec-05-11 11:14 PM   #11 
  - Sorta makes me think of Gingrich babbling on about "the poor",  bemildred   Dec-05-11 11:28 PM   #13 
  - Secular vs. Religious  oberliner   Dec-06-11 02:55 AM   #19 
     - Correct  bemildred   Dec-06-11 10:07 AM   #22 
        - And now compare and contrast with Spengler's numbers:  bemildred   Dec-06-11 10:24 AM   #23 
  - And of course, the real agenda of the article is this writer getting payback  Ken Burch   Dec-06-11 02:35 AM   #16 
  - Isn't that what you've observed happening in Israel?  oberliner   Dec-06-11 02:53 AM   #18 
  - After I read the entire piece, I understood WHY you don't usually post "Spengler"  Ken Burch   Dec-06-11 02:36 AM   #17 
  - Why the exception?  oberliner   Dec-06-11 05:33 AM   #20 
  - Please see post #10. nt  bemildred   Dec-06-11 09:10 AM   #21 
  - Non Jews seem to be Experts on this Topic  King_David   Dec-06-11 03:22 PM   #25 
  - Israelis lost sight of a meaningful Jewish identity in the Diaspora  bemildred   Dec-06-11 06:50 PM   #26 

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