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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-11 07:42 PM
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Are Jews better off in Israel?
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By Spengler

Israel's immigration ministry stopped running television ads exhorting Israelis living in America to come home after American Jewish organizations complained, the New York Times reported December 2:

One video advertisement shows a Jewish elderly couple distraught that their Israeli granddaughter in the United States thinks Hanukkah is Christmas. Another shows a clueless American boyfriend who does not get why his Israeli expatriate girlfriend is saddened on Israel's memorial day. A third shows a toddler calling "Daddy! Daddy!" to his napping Israeli expatriate father, who finally awakens when the child switches to Hebrew: "Abba!"

"While we recognize the motivations behind the ad campaign," the Jewish Federations remonstrated in a December 1 statement, "we are strongly opposed to the messaging that American Jews do not understand Israel. We share the concerns many of you have expressed that this outrageous and insulting message could harm the Israel-Diaspora relationship." The Jewish organizations complained after a liberal blogger, Jeffrey Goldberg of the Atlantic Monthly, denounced the ads.

The message that Jewish life in America is deficient is "outrageous" and "insulting", to be sure, but it has a single redeeming quality, namely truth. The vehemence of the official Jewish response to the Israeli advertisements betrays a guilty conscience: Jewish life in America is dying, as the same Jewish organizations warn in ever-gloomier studies of Jewish demographics. It seems inconsistent of the Jewish organizations to bewail the inexorable decline of American Jewish life on one hand, and condemn the Israelis for pointing to their manifest achievements in sustaining Jewish life.

Don't usually post Spengler, making an exception.
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  -Are Jews better off in Israel? bemildred  Dec-05-11 07:42 PM   #0 
  - If you listen to Republicans ...  zbdent   Dec-05-11 08:09 PM   #1 
  - It's one thing to call for a renewal of Jewish spirituality and culture in the U.S.  Ken Burch   Dec-05-11 08:25 PM   #2 
  - In order:  bemildred   Dec-05-11 11:07 PM   #10 
  - Jewish life is dying?  TomClash   Dec-05-11 08:25 PM   #3 
  - Glad to hear that.  Ken Burch   Dec-05-11 08:26 PM   #4 
     - Wishful thinking.  demosincebirth   Dec-05-11 08:45 PM   #5 
        - How can you be sure?  Ken Burch   Dec-05-11 10:29 PM   #7 
           - Judaism is alive in almost every country  demosincebirth   Dec-06-11 09:40 PM   #27 
              - As it should be.  Ken Burch   Dec-06-11 09:42 PM   #28 
  - Really, this is fundamentally inaccurate...  shaayecanaan   Dec-05-11 09:36 PM   #6 
  - That's a pretty sweeping and vicious statement you're making there.  Ken Burch   Dec-05-11 10:36 PM   #8 
  - I've known lapsed Irish Catholics that still wave the flag on St Paddy's day  shaayecanaan   Dec-06-11 12:45 AM   #14 
  - Yep. The Orthodox seem to be doing fine.  bemildred   Dec-05-11 11:18 PM   #12 
  - Deeply insulting and shamefully ignorant  oberliner   Dec-06-11 01:02 AM   #15 
     - The proof is in the pudding...  shaayecanaan   Dec-06-11 02:29 PM   #24 
  - Diaspora - Jews living outside of Isreal,,,why not a word for Irish living outside of Ireland?  angstlessk   Dec-05-11 10:47 PM   #9 
  - I found the closing statements of the article truly de-lish-us  azurnoir   Dec-05-11 11:14 PM   #11 
  - Sorta makes me think of Gingrich babbling on about "the poor",  bemildred   Dec-05-11 11:28 PM   #13 
  - Secular vs. Religious  oberliner   Dec-06-11 02:55 AM   #19 
     - Correct  bemildred   Dec-06-11 10:07 AM   #22 
        - And now compare and contrast with Spengler's numbers:  bemildred   Dec-06-11 10:24 AM   #23 
  - And of course, the real agenda of the article is this writer getting payback  Ken Burch   Dec-06-11 02:35 AM   #16 
  - Isn't that what you've observed happening in Israel?  oberliner   Dec-06-11 02:53 AM   #18 
  - After I read the entire piece, I understood WHY you don't usually post "Spengler"  Ken Burch   Dec-06-11 02:36 AM   #17 
  - Why the exception?  oberliner   Dec-06-11 05:33 AM   #20 
  - Please see post #10. nt  bemildred   Dec-06-11 09:10 AM   #21 
  - Non Jews seem to be Experts on this Topic  King_David   Dec-06-11 03:22 PM   #25 
  - Israelis lost sight of a meaningful Jewish identity in the Diaspora  bemildred   Dec-06-11 06:50 PM   #26 

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