shira
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Sun Dec-04-11 03:42 PM
Response to Reply #23 |
| 55. Israel, unlike S.Africa, has offered statehood and self-determination to the Palestinians |
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Obviously if there's apartheid going on - and it's not - the Palestinians clearly prefer that to their own state.
Why else would they reject 2 credible peace deals to end the occupation within the last decade, without so much as making a reasonable counter-offer?
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| -Israel honors civil rights |
King_David |
Dec-03-11 09:56 PM |
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'a term like “pinkwashing” is more than just offensive.' |
King_David |
Dec-03-11 09:57 PM |
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The question of Israel's civil rights record is irrelevant to the I/P dispute |
Ken Burch |
Dec-04-11 01:43 AM |
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It's extremely relevant |
King_David |
Dec-04-11 07:41 AM |
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But here's the thing |
Ken Burch |
Dec-04-11 06:47 PM |
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You can't stop with the demonization, can you? n/t |
shira |
Dec-04-11 06:54 PM |
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Not demonization at all. |
Ken Burch |
Dec-04-11 07:29 PM |
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Stick to the topic |
King_David |
Dec-04-11 10:06 PM |
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You constantly demonize the IDF and couldn't care less about the very rational fear Israelis have... |
shira |
Dec-05-11 05:48 AM |
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You mean like Israel has aided South Sudan? n/t |
azurnoir |
Dec-04-11 10:08 PM |
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No Ken, it's relevant when yr anti-Zionist friends are calling into question Israel's existance |
shira |
Dec-05-11 10:32 AM |
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It is not Israel's internal civil rights accomplishments that is being written off however |
azurnoir |
Dec-04-11 06:46 PM |
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When Israel's the only nation on earth whose existence is constantly under debate... |
shira |
Dec-04-11 06:55 PM |
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Good for Israel for advertising them. |
King_David |
Dec-04-11 10:08 PM |
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Dec-03-11 10:33 PM |
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the Palestinians should take advantage of it.... |
pelsar |
Dec-03-11 11:26 PM |
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+1 |
King_David |
Dec-03-11 11:42 PM |
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Dec-04-11 12:08 AM |
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I think it is Israel's disrespect of the civil rights of non citizens |
pennylane100 |
Dec-04-11 03:47 AM |
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Rubbish |
King_David |
Dec-04-11 07:46 AM |
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The Palestinians and the whole Middle East block of countries should be happy |
King_David |
Dec-04-11 12:05 AM |
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Dec-04-11 12:10 AM |
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Iran is one of the worst offenders, |
King_David |
Dec-04-11 12:14 AM |
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Dec-04-11 12:22 AM |
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Do I want to answer your query? |
King_David |
Dec-04-11 12:28 AM |
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Dec-04-11 12:33 AM |
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Those practices are not the reason the IDF is in the West Bank, though |
Ken Burch |
Dec-04-11 01:47 AM |
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Sadly, however, Egypt seems to be on ther verge of electin a new government |
pennylane100 |
Dec-04-11 03:55 AM |
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It's not as if anything would have been better if Mubarak had been propped up in power |
Ken Burch |
Dec-04-11 04:05 AM |
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wheres santa clause?...i know he's around here somewhere.... |
pelsar |
Dec-04-11 07:24 AM |
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They care as much about international pressure as Hamas does nt |
King_David |
Dec-04-11 07:53 AM |
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Left alone and allowed to follow Iran to murder their Gay citizens |
King_David |
Dec-04-11 07:56 AM |
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Dec-04-11 11:59 AM |
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hey...you learned something....congrats... |
pelsar |
Dec-04-11 12:00 PM |
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Dec-04-11 12:23 PM |
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why would israel drop bombs |
pelsar |
Dec-04-11 01:23 PM |
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the MB isn't winning majority support |
Ken Burch |
Dec-04-11 09:44 PM |
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Islamists take two-thirds of Egyptian votes |
pelsar |
Dec-04-11 11:59 PM |
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Change my mind about what? |
Ken Burch |
Dec-05-11 12:46 AM |
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your still arguing with yourself.... |
pelsar |
Dec-05-11 02:40 AM |
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Why are you so obsessed with my past statements of what can and can't happen under occupations |
Ken Burch |
Dec-05-11 01:06 AM |
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your past statements are enlightening...thats why |
pelsar |
Dec-05-11 02:31 AM |
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Ken, stop with the BS about the IDF in the West Bank... |
shira |
Dec-04-11 03:30 PM |
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yes Israel respects the civil rights of it's own citizens* |
azurnoir |
Dec-04-11 12:19 AM |
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Dec-04-11 12:24 AM |
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Israel and the Apartheid Slander |
King_David |
Dec-04-11 12:31 AM |
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Dec-04-11 12:35 AM |
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Israel and the Apartheid Slander |
King_David |
Dec-04-11 12:37 AM |
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Dec-04-11 12:39 AM |
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I guess Goldstone considers it slander |
King_David |
Dec-04-11 12:41 AM |
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Dec-04-11 12:46 AM |
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If you don't want Israel to be called an apartheid state |
Ken Burch |
Dec-04-11 01:49 AM |
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You can't stop the enemies of the Jewish State from saying anything they want |
King_David |
Dec-04-11 08:01 AM |
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Dec-04-11 11:48 AM |
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Dec-04-11 01:38 PM |
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Dec-04-11 01:48 PM |
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(Jews) ' would then decide to turn around and do the same' |
King_David |
Dec-04-11 02:03 PM |
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Dec-04-11 02:11 PM |
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All I did was quoted your disgusting post. nt |
King_David |
Dec-04-11 02:22 PM |
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Dec-04-11 03:10 PM |
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i'll help... |
pelsar |
Dec-04-11 02:04 PM |
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Dec-04-11 02:21 PM |
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hostage? |
pelsar |
Dec-04-11 03:20 PM |
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Dec-04-11 03:24 PM |
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They're suffering so much that they rejected 2 credible peace plans in the last decade... |
shira |
Dec-04-11 03:38 PM |
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Dec-04-11 03:57 PM |
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See #60. n/t |
shira |
Dec-04-11 06:20 PM |
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No. That isn't the case. Stop repreating Likudnik lies. |
Ken Burch |
Dec-04-11 09:50 PM |
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Dec-04-11 10:12 PM |
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It certainly serves a purpose to confront those who make such ignorant accusations since it |
Dick Dastardly |
Dec-04-11 09:04 AM |
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Lol what Ken was saying is more like if Black people don't want to be called the "n-word:" |
azurnoir |
Dec-04-11 12:00 PM |
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No, I think what Dick said went right over your head nt |
King_David |
Dec-04-11 01:39 PM |
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well apparently what KB said was above your head? However if your speaking of the comment |
azurnoir |
Dec-04-11 03:50 PM |
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Israel, unlike S.Africa, has offered statehood and self-determination to the Palestinians |
shira |
Dec-04-11 03:42 PM |
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Dec-04-11 03:58 PM |
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The Olmert deal was for the equivalent of 100%. With no counter-offer from the PA. n/t |
shira |
Dec-04-11 06:20 PM |
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non citizens do not get the same right as citizens... |
pelsar |
Dec-04-11 12:50 AM |
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you mean noncitizens forced to live under Israel's military rule? |
azurnoir |
Dec-04-11 06:48 PM |
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Why are they forced? They've turned down one offer after another for their own state... |
shira |
Dec-04-11 06:59 PM |
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IMO the operative word is 'credible' eom n/t |
azurnoir |
Dec-04-11 10:04 PM |
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The 2000 offer was credible enough that Arafat regretted rejecting it. n/t |
shira |
Dec-05-11 04:06 AM |
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supposedly according to a Ha'aretz interview Arafat said he would accept the terms of Taba when put |
azurnoir |
Dec-05-11 04:06 PM |
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The 2 main issues Israel had with the Parameters was sovereignty over the Temple Mount... |
shira |
Dec-05-11 06:38 PM |
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yep...thats why its called an occupation......n/t |
pelsar |
Dec-05-11 12:04 AM |
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israel + civil rights = {{{chuckle}}} eom |
Purveyor |
Dec-04-11 01:47 PM |
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You are right |
King_David |
Dec-04-11 01:59 PM |
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so what other ME countries did they visit on this 'tour'? |
azurnoir |
Dec-04-11 03:52 PM |
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Huh ? |
King_David |
Dec-04-11 06:44 PM |
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Curiousity of course |
azurnoir |
Dec-04-11 09:52 PM |
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Cheers |
King_David |
Dec-04-11 10:26 PM |
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