Reply #156: "What gets to me most is...faulty chains of reasoning. That Zionism is wrong is merely a fact".

[shira]

Without Zionism and Israel, Jews would still be in a the same intolerable they were at during WW2 times.

Do you consider THAT wrong?

Your wish is to correct a perceived wrong by condemning all Jews to another wrong. And not only that, take away freedom from non-Jews in that region they would never have if not for Zionism. Do you ever think of all the good that Zionism has done for Israel's non-Jews? Are you not aware 75% of Israel's Arabs are for a democratic and JEWISH Israel? That makes them Zionists too. Adherents of an ideology you hate and find to be evil. Not only that, I've posted several times a link to a poll showing Palestinians respect Israeli democracy more than any other democracy in the world. How does all this compute with you from a logical perspective?

A liberal/progressive nation in the middle of closed, dark totalitarian regimes is not wrong - it's pretty much the only thing RIGHT about the region.

Your faulty logic is the result of the false premise that Jews as a nation have no right to self determination on even one inch of the soil there. Moreover, Palestinians who would have been happy living in a greater Syria or in Jordan (had Israel never existed) have more rights to the land nationally than Jews.