Violet_Crumble
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Sat Dec-03-11 08:03 AM
Response to Reply #66 |
| 68. Ah, so anyone who doesn't see things yr way is portraying Israel as pure evil? |
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Gotcha. Of course incidents that get misrepresented by Israel wouldn't be done in order to portray Palestine as pure evil, right? See, apart from the sheer lunacy of insisting that anyone who doesn't agree with yr conspiracy theory crap about that boy who was killed is trying to portray Israel as pure evil, it's really quite stupid to claim that anyone who thinks Rachel Corrie was deliberately run over, or who calls the destruction in Jenin a massacre is doing so in order to portray Israel as pure evil.
It appears that as usual you have absolutely no clue as to what I think or believe, and don't care, because having to deal with anything but the mirror image of yr own views is too much like hard work...
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| -The Third Intifada Is Here |
vminfla |
Nov-10-11 07:05 AM |
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If you leave no opportunity for diplomacy you are promoting the opposite. |
nineteen50 |
Nov-10-11 07:10 AM |
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Well, a diplomatic 'intifada' is a lot better than an armed one |
LeftishBrit |
Nov-10-11 08:00 AM |
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Did I miss something? |
holdencaufield |
Nov-10-11 08:09 AM |
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No the IDF is still dropping them with impunity nt |
TomClash |
Nov-10-11 09:44 AM |
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No. My point was that this author seemed to be worried about the Palestinians having a 'diplomatic |
LeftishBrit |
Nov-10-11 09:56 AM |
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I'm all for non-violent methods |
holdencaufield |
Nov-10-11 09:20 PM |
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Erasing Israelis past in UNESCO is still violence |
vminfla |
Nov-19-11 09:01 AM |
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What's the old saying? "War is diplomacy by other means"? |
Crunchy Frog |
Nov-23-11 09:38 PM |
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Aggression still continues |
vminfla |
Nov-10-11 09:16 PM |
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Dude, |
holdencaufield |
Nov-10-11 09:21 PM |
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Thank you |
vminfla |
Nov-11-11 04:02 PM |
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It's such a relief to see the Palestinians |
Crunchy Frog |
Nov-10-11 06:26 PM |
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Now they just need to acknowledge Israel's right to exist |
vminfla |
Nov-14-11 08:47 PM |
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They already have... |
Violet_Crumble |
Nov-15-11 06:48 AM |
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And yet the PLO Charter still calls for the destruction of Israel |
vminfla |
Nov-15-11 08:55 AM |
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What horseshit: |
bemildred |
Nov-15-11 09:47 AM |
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Yes, your post is horseshit. The PLO Charter has not been ammended |
vminfla |
Nov-15-11 10:11 AM |
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Hamas is not the PLO, but you knew that. |
bemildred |
Nov-15-11 10:16 AM |
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I only have the PLO charter that calls for the destruction of Israel to quote |
vminfla |
Nov-15-11 10:42 AM |
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Then you need to read what I posted, it could widen your horizons. nt |
bemildred |
Nov-15-11 10:49 AM |
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You did not post anything relevant, the charter remains the same |
vminfla |
Nov-15-11 11:09 AM |
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How do you know if you don't read it? nt |
bemildred |
Nov-15-11 04:31 PM |
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There are people on both sides that reject any workable compromise. |
bemildred |
Nov-15-11 10:27 AM |
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Yes, I can see the desire for peace in those words |
jimmie |
Nov-24-11 07:52 AM |
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It's so nice to see feebleminded propaganda attempts met with good FACTUAL EVIDENCE. |
Crunchy Frog |
Nov-15-11 09:07 PM |
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That memorandum of mutual recognition translates the same way in any language... |
Violet_Crumble |
Nov-15-11 03:07 PM |
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And, the Official wafa channel indoctrinates children to Jihad |
vminfla |
Nov-15-11 04:24 PM |
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about your vid posted on youtube by John McCain2006 |
azurnoir |
Nov-15-11 04:49 PM |
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There really are no question concerning the translation |
vminfla |
Nov-15-11 06:28 PM |
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That has nothing to do with the subject here |
azurnoir |
Nov-15-11 11:04 PM |
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An arabculture of hate has everything to do with this newest intifada |
vminfla |
Nov-16-11 08:06 AM |
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Yeah, that Arab Culture of Hate™ is a truly dangerous thing... |
Violet_Crumble |
Nov-24-11 04:37 AM |
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Well, I gather there is good hate and bad hate, see? |
bemildred |
Dec-03-11 10:50 AM |
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The PA led religious institutions still preach destruction of Israel... |
shira |
Nov-15-11 11:17 AM |
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And Israeli led rabbis still support the destruction of the Palestinians... |
Violet_Crumble |
Nov-15-11 03:21 PM |
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You're going off topic. My point was that the PA is still dedicated to Israel's destruction... |
shira |
Nov-15-11 03:38 PM |
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Not at all. My point is that Israeli rabbis behave exactly the way you complain about... |
Violet_Crumble |
Nov-15-11 05:08 PM |
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Lior was arrested and you're arguing his rantings are state policy the GOI promotes/supports? |
shira |
Nov-15-11 11:56 PM |
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Yet again yr not bothering to read what I say. I didn't say anything about policy.... |
Violet_Crumble |
Nov-16-11 12:15 AM |
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Forget policy - try state sponsored. If the GOI were doing what the PA were doing... |
shira |
Nov-16-11 03:37 PM |
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Sure, but how about if we just *say* that Israel behaves the same way that the PA does |
vminfla |
Nov-23-11 06:14 PM |
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That's the standard response WRT pointing out PA/Hamas misdeeds... |
shira |
Nov-23-11 07:06 PM |
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That's an absolutely revolting thing to say... |
Violet_Crumble |
Dec-02-11 10:32 PM |
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A TIME investigation concludes that there was no wanton massacre in Jenin |
oberliner |
Dec-03-11 12:00 AM |
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I don't really care what things are called massacres.... |
Violet_Crumble |
Dec-03-11 12:33 AM |
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You should care. Israel lost 23 soldiers who went house to house in Jenin... |
shira |
Dec-03-11 06:30 AM |
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If yr going to insist on following me around replying to my posts, at least read what I say... |
Violet_Crumble |
Dec-03-11 06:50 AM |
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You should care about the operation being described as a great massacre of innocents... |
shira |
Dec-03-11 07:07 AM |
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Sorry to dissapoint, but I don't care what labels get used... |
Violet_Crumble |
Dec-03-11 07:22 AM |
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Exactly. You don't care that Israel is demonized and portrayed as pure evil... |
shira |
Dec-03-11 07:47 AM |
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Yet again yr making up completely untrue bullshit... |
Violet_Crumble |
Dec-03-11 07:56 AM |
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It's not bullshit. You don't care what labels (massacre) get used by the MSM... |
shira |
Dec-03-11 08:03 AM |
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Yes, it was totally dishonest bullshit... |
Violet_Crumble |
Dec-03-11 08:13 AM |
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The media, academics, UN, and NGOs all partook in a demonizing lie... |
shira |
Dec-03-11 08:19 AM |
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No, they didn't. Yr the only one engaging in such things... |
Violet_Crumble |
Dec-03-11 08:28 AM |
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Obviously you don't read what I write... |
shira |
Dec-03-11 08:39 AM |
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I read just fine. You, otoh, don't bother reading and struggle to communicate clearly... |
Violet_Crumble |
Dec-03-11 05:53 PM |
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No, you really don't. And now you're lying about me saying a French court... |
shira |
Dec-03-11 06:23 PM |
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My reading ability is just fine. Yr reading comprehension and communication on the other hand... |
Violet_Crumble |
Dec-03-11 08:12 PM |
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Well I do think there are others who seize on this terminology |
oberliner |
Dec-03-11 09:05 PM |
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You can't stop with the demonizations and half-truths, can you? |
shira |
Dec-03-11 06:17 AM |
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Bullshit, You've got to stop describing yr own posting style and attributing it to others... |
Violet_Crumble |
Dec-03-11 06:39 AM |
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And there you go diverting attention away from yourself by attacking others for views... |
shira |
Dec-03-11 06:43 AM |
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You really do like talking about me, don't you? Me, I like talking about the I/P conflict... |
Violet_Crumble |
Dec-03-11 07:04 AM |
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The rebuttal to those points is that while each episode is tragic, there are those who hate Israel |
shira |
Dec-03-11 07:12 AM |
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So fucking what? There's also people who hate Palestinians the same way... |
Violet_Crumble |
Dec-03-11 07:27 AM |
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Misrepresenting those episodes in order to portray Israel as pure evil is wrong... |
shira |
Dec-03-11 07:52 AM |
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Ah, so anyone who doesn't see things yr way is portraying Israel as pure evil? |
Violet_Crumble |
Dec-03-11 08:03 AM |
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Jenin wasn't a massacre as the major Media, the UN, academics, and NGOs reported... |
shira |
Dec-03-11 08:07 AM |
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What isn't sinking in about what I've been saying? |
Violet_Crumble |
Dec-03-11 08:23 AM |
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You're arguing definition of massacre now. Fucking pathetic... |
shira |
Dec-03-11 08:49 AM |
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I don't recall arguing the definition at all, mainly coz I don't give a fuck how you define it... |
Violet_Crumble |
Dec-03-11 06:01 PM |
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Right. 'Massacre' is subjective & of course yr content w/ yr own personal definition of it. |
shira |
Dec-03-11 06:26 PM |
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At least you got that bit right. Not sure why you have such a problem with my personal definition... |
Violet_Crumble |
Dec-03-11 08:17 PM |
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Your personal definition is just a way for you to ignore the fact that Israel was deliberately... |
shira |
Dec-05-11 11:53 AM |
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No, mainly because yr *facts* are nothing more than yr opinions... |
Violet_Crumble |
Dec-05-11 01:51 PM |
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Which other people, who make up their own personal definitions in defiance of the dictionary, do you |
shira |
Dec-05-11 03:13 PM |
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The forest seems to have been lost for the trees... |
Violet_Crumble |
Dec-06-11 03:40 AM |
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No, it wasn't a massacre. The UN admitted as much but keep on with the demonization... |
shira |
Dec-06-11 06:28 AM |
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Using my definition it wasn't. Using yrs it is... |
Violet_Crumble |
Dec-07-11 02:50 AM |
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Your definition still suggests slaughter and murder, meaning deliberate/intentional. |
shira |
Dec-07-11 04:08 AM |
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And running down disabled people with bulldozers isn't intentional? |
Violet_Crumble |
Dec-07-11 04:34 AM |
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How do you know the INTENT of the IDF in Jenin was to deliberately murder citizens? n/t |
shira |
Dec-07-11 05:35 AM |
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Well, I asked you whether it was or not. |
Violet_Crumble |
Dec-07-11 05:56 AM |
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Of course the intent of the IDF wasn't to slaughter/murder out of malice... |
shira |
Dec-07-11 06:18 AM |
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Ah, so now the Dictionary Definition isn't good enough for you... |
Violet_Crumble |
Dec-09-11 12:44 AM |
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I'm using the dictionary. You're not. n/t |
shira |
Dec-09-11 11:00 AM |
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Since when has the Oxford not been a dictionary? |
Violet_Crumble |
Dec-09-11 03:18 PM |
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The definition you're using doesn't support your personal def'n of massacre. n/t |
shira |
Dec-09-11 04:20 PM |
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I'm more than happy with the definition I'm using. You, on the other hand, are making up yr own... |
Violet_Crumble |
Dec-09-11 04:34 PM |
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Bwah! |
Recursion |
Dec-09-11 09:40 AM |
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Name removed |
Dec-05-11 12:48 PM |
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Things that are state-sponsored are policy... |
Violet_Crumble |
Dec-02-11 10:30 PM |
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Your moral equivalencies are pathetic and only serve to run interference for Hamas and the PLO... |
shira |
Dec-03-11 06:39 AM |
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Yep, that's me. An agent of Hamas! |
Violet_Crumble |
Dec-03-11 06:07 PM |
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There's no moral equivalence between a self-critical, free democracy and a dictatorship... |
shira |
Dec-03-11 06:50 PM |
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Go and tell that to someone who argued that... |
Violet_Crumble |
Dec-03-11 08:30 PM |
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Israel's chief Rabbi doesn't hold to the same opinions as Lior, now does he? |
shira |
Dec-05-11 01:01 PM |
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No, he wasn't merely arguing he shouldn't be arrested... |
Violet_Crumble |
Dec-05-11 01:58 PM |
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But where do you find these Rabbis endorsing Lior's view? Or not caring? |
shira |
Dec-05-11 03:09 PM |
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I distinctly recall posting that for you in the post yr replying to.. |
Violet_Crumble |
Dec-06-11 03:47 AM |
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The head Rabbis have not endorsed Lior... |
shira |
Dec-06-11 06:41 AM |
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As I didn't say that, I guess yr now inventing yr own arguments again... |
Violet_Crumble |
Dec-07-11 03:20 AM |
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The ISM, BDS movement, and FGM are all as bad or worse than Lior and you still support them. |
shira |
Dec-07-11 04:06 AM |
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No, they're not. That yr ignoring Lior's calls for murder and hatred of gentiles is disturbing... |
Violet_Crumble |
Dec-07-11 04:30 AM |
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I'm ignoring nothing. Lior's views are vile and he deserves to be condemned... |
shira |
Dec-07-11 05:36 AM |
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Yeah, that condemnation's been oozing out of yr every post in this thread! |
Violet_Crumble |
Dec-07-11 05:55 AM |
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How many times do I need to condemn him? Unlike yourself, who still supports nasty and vile... |
shira |
Dec-07-11 06:07 AM |
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Well, even once would be nice.... |
Violet_Crumble |
Dec-09-11 12:45 AM |
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I've done it at least 3-4 times in this thread alone. But what makes you think you can lecture... |
shira |
Dec-09-11 11:02 AM |
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No you haven't. All you've done is make excuses and deflect... |
Violet_Crumble |
Dec-09-11 03:49 PM |
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Lame attempt at projecting your faults onto your opponents, but... |
shira |
Dec-09-11 04:18 PM |
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The thing is I don't create fake quotes, and I don't engage in lowering and raising the bar... |
Violet_Crumble |
Dec-09-11 04:43 PM |
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you are totally wrong here. |
Shaktimaan |
Nov-16-11 12:22 AM |
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+100. n/t |
shira |
Nov-16-11 12:41 AM |
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I'll remove that +100 by adding a -1000. That makes it -900! n/t |
Violet_Crumble |
Nov-16-11 01:05 AM |
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No, I'm not, Shakti... |
Violet_Crumble |
Nov-16-11 01:04 AM |
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you're right, it is far too widespread in Israel. |
Shaktimaan |
Nov-16-11 07:56 AM |
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The differences is the messengers of death and destruction are on the PA Government payroll |
vminfla |
Dec-02-11 08:58 PM |
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The Chief Rabbi of Israel isn't on the govt payroll?? n/t |
Violet_Crumble |
Dec-03-11 12:33 AM |
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the difference is... |
pelsar |
Dec-03-11 03:39 AM |
#53 |
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