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The Third Intifada Is Here
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This is a Diplomatic Intifada, aimed at rallying the world against Israel in the hope of forcing it to accept all of the Palestinian Authority's demands, first and foremost a full withdrawal to the pre-1967 armistice lines.

Palestinian leader Mahmoud Abbas has decided that it is better to negotiate with the UN than with Israel.

Palestinian Authority officials are hoping that international pressure will force Israel to its knees. They point out that similar measures forced Apartheid South Africa to eventually succumb to the will of the international community.

Once the Palestinian Authority gains membership in these bodies, it is planning to launch a massive diplomatic campaign aimed at isolating Israel in the international arena. The ultimate goal is to seek Israel's expulsion from most UN bodies on the grounds that it is refusing to comply with UN resolutions concerning the Israeli-Arab conflict.

The Palestinian Authority says it wants to use its newly acquired membership in UNESCO to file a number of lawsuits against Israel in international courts and forums for alleged theft and destruction of archeological sites and antiquities in Jerusalem.
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  -The Third Intifada Is Here vminfla  Nov-10-11 07:05 AM   #0 
  - If you leave no opportunity for diplomacy you are promoting the opposite.  nineteen50   Nov-10-11 07:10 AM   #1 
  - Well, a diplomatic 'intifada' is a lot better than an armed one  LeftishBrit   Nov-10-11 08:00 AM   #2 
  - Did I miss something?  holdencaufield   Nov-10-11 08:09 AM   #3 
     - No the IDF is still dropping them with impunity nt  TomClash   Nov-10-11 09:44 AM   #4 
     - No. My point was that this author seemed to be worried about the Palestinians having a 'diplomatic  LeftishBrit   Nov-10-11 09:56 AM   #5 
     - I'm all for non-violent methods  holdencaufield   Nov-10-11 09:20 PM   #8 
     - Erasing Israelis past in UNESCO is still violence  vminfla   Nov-19-11 09:01 AM   #41 
        - What's the old saying? "War is diplomacy by other means"?  Crunchy Frog   Nov-23-11 09:38 PM   #44 
     - Aggression still continues  vminfla   Nov-10-11 09:16 PM   #7 
        - Dude,  holdencaufield   Nov-10-11 09:21 PM   #9 
           - Thank you  vminfla   Nov-11-11 04:02 PM   #10 
  - It's such a relief to see the Palestinians  Crunchy Frog   Nov-10-11 06:26 PM   #6 
     - Now they just need to acknowledge Israel's right to exist  vminfla   Nov-14-11 08:47 PM   #11 
        - They already have...  Violet_Crumble   Nov-15-11 06:48 AM   #12 
           - And yet the PLO Charter still calls for the destruction of Israel  vminfla   Nov-15-11 08:55 AM   #13 
           - What horseshit:  bemildred   Nov-15-11 09:47 AM   #14 
           - Yes, your post is horseshit. The PLO Charter has not been ammended  vminfla   Nov-15-11 10:11 AM   #15 
           - Hamas is not the PLO, but you knew that.  bemildred   Nov-15-11 10:16 AM   #16 
           - I only have the PLO charter that calls for the destruction of Israel to quote  vminfla   Nov-15-11 10:42 AM   #18 
              - Then you need to read what I posted, it could widen your horizons. nt  bemildred   Nov-15-11 10:49 AM   #19 
                 - You did not post anything relevant, the charter remains the same  vminfla   Nov-15-11 11:09 AM   #20 
                    - How do you know if you don't read it? nt  bemildred   Nov-15-11 04:31 PM   #26 
           - There are people on both sides that reject any workable compromise.  bemildred   Nov-15-11 10:27 AM   #17 
           - Yes, I can see the desire for peace in those words  jimmie   Nov-24-11 07:52 AM   #46 
           - It's so nice to see feebleminded propaganda attempts met with good FACTUAL EVIDENCE.  Crunchy Frog   Nov-15-11 09:07 PM   #30 
           - That memorandum of mutual recognition translates the same way in any language...  Violet_Crumble   Nov-15-11 03:07 PM   #22 
              - And, the Official wafa channel indoctrinates children to Jihad  vminfla   Nov-15-11 04:24 PM   #25 
                 - about your vid posted on youtube by John McCain2006  azurnoir   Nov-15-11 04:49 PM   #27 
                    - There really are no question concerning the translation  vminfla   Nov-15-11 06:28 PM   #29 
                       - That has nothing to do with the subject here  azurnoir   Nov-15-11 11:04 PM   #31 
                          - An arabculture of hate has everything to do with this newest intifada  vminfla   Nov-16-11 08:06 AM   #39 
                             - Yeah, that Arab Culture of Hate is a truly dangerous thing...  Violet_Crumble   Nov-24-11 04:37 AM   #45 
                                - Well, I gather there is good hate and bad hate, see?  bemildred   Dec-03-11 10:50 AM   #77 
           - The PA led religious institutions still preach destruction of Israel...  shira   Nov-15-11 11:17 AM   #21 
              - And Israeli led rabbis still support the destruction of the Palestinians...  Violet_Crumble   Nov-15-11 03:21 PM   #23 
                 - You're going off topic. My point was that the PA is still dedicated to Israel's destruction...  shira   Nov-15-11 03:38 PM   #24 
                 - Not at all. My point is that Israeli rabbis behave exactly the way you complain about...  Violet_Crumble   Nov-15-11 05:08 PM   #28 
                    - Lior was arrested and you're arguing his rantings are state policy the GOI promotes/supports?  shira   Nov-15-11 11:56 PM   #32 
                    - Yet again yr not bothering to read what I say. I didn't say anything about policy....  Violet_Crumble   Nov-16-11 12:15 AM   #33 
                       - Forget policy - try state sponsored. If the GOI were doing what the PA were doing...  shira   Nov-16-11 03:37 PM   #40 
                          - Sure, but how about if we just *say* that Israel behaves the same way that the PA does  vminfla   Nov-23-11 06:14 PM   #42 
                          - That's the standard response WRT pointing out PA/Hamas misdeeds...  shira   Nov-23-11 07:06 PM   #43 
                          - That's an absolutely revolting thing to say...  Violet_Crumble   Dec-02-11 10:32 PM   #49 
                             - A TIME investigation concludes that there was no wanton massacre in Jenin  oberliner   Dec-03-11 12:00 AM   #50 
                             - I don't really care what things are called massacres....  Violet_Crumble   Dec-03-11 12:33 AM   #51 
                                - You should care. Israel lost 23 soldiers who went house to house in Jenin...  shira   Dec-03-11 06:30 AM   #55 
                                - If yr going to insist on following me around replying to my posts, at least read what I say...  Violet_Crumble   Dec-03-11 06:50 AM   #59 
                                   - You should care about the operation being described as a great massacre of innocents...  shira   Dec-03-11 07:07 AM   #61 
                                      - Sorry to dissapoint, but I don't care what labels get used...  Violet_Crumble   Dec-03-11 07:22 AM   #63 
                                         - Exactly. You don't care that Israel is demonized and portrayed as pure evil...  shira   Dec-03-11 07:47 AM   #65 
                                         - Yet again yr making up completely untrue bullshit...  Violet_Crumble   Dec-03-11 07:56 AM   #67 
                                         - It's not bullshit. You don't care what labels (massacre) get used by the MSM...  shira   Dec-03-11 08:03 AM   #69 
                                         - Yes, it was totally dishonest bullshit...  Violet_Crumble   Dec-03-11 08:13 AM   #71 
                                         - The media, academics, UN, and NGOs all partook in a demonizing lie...  shira   Dec-03-11 08:19 AM   #72 
                                         - No, they didn't. Yr the only one engaging in such things...  Violet_Crumble   Dec-03-11 08:28 AM   #74 
                                         - Obviously you don't read what I write...  shira   Dec-03-11 08:39 AM   #75 
                                         - I read just fine. You, otoh, don't bother reading and struggle to communicate clearly...  Violet_Crumble   Dec-03-11 05:53 PM   #78 
                                         - No, you really don't. And now you're lying about me saying a French court...  shira   Dec-03-11 06:23 PM   #81 
                                         - My reading ability is just fine. Yr reading comprehension and communication on the other hand...  Violet_Crumble   Dec-03-11 08:12 PM   #84 
                                - Well I do think there are others who seize on this terminology  oberliner   Dec-03-11 09:05 PM   #87 
                             - You can't stop with the demonizations and half-truths, can you?  shira   Dec-03-11 06:17 AM   #54 
                                - Bullshit, You've got to stop describing yr own posting style and attributing it to others...  Violet_Crumble   Dec-03-11 06:39 AM   #56 
                                   - And there you go diverting attention away from yourself by attacking others for views...  shira   Dec-03-11 06:43 AM   #58 
                                      - You really do like talking about me, don't you? Me, I like talking about the I/P conflict...  Violet_Crumble   Dec-03-11 07:04 AM   #60 
                                         - The rebuttal to those points is that while each episode is tragic, there are those who hate Israel  shira   Dec-03-11 07:12 AM   #62 
                                            - So fucking what? There's also people who hate Palestinians the same way...  Violet_Crumble   Dec-03-11 07:27 AM   #64 
                                               - Misrepresenting those episodes in order to portray Israel as pure evil is wrong...  shira   Dec-03-11 07:52 AM   #66 
                                               - Ah, so anyone who doesn't see things yr way is portraying Israel as pure evil?  Violet_Crumble   Dec-03-11 08:03 AM   #68 
                                               - Jenin wasn't a massacre as the major Media, the UN, academics, and NGOs reported...  shira   Dec-03-11 08:07 AM   #70 
                                               - What isn't sinking in about what I've been saying?  Violet_Crumble   Dec-03-11 08:23 AM   #73 
                                               - You're arguing definition of massacre now. Fucking pathetic...  shira   Dec-03-11 08:49 AM   #76 
                                               - I don't recall arguing the definition at all, mainly coz I don't give a fuck how you define it...  Violet_Crumble   Dec-03-11 06:01 PM   #79 
                                               - Right. 'Massacre' is subjective & of course yr content w/ yr own personal definition of it.  shira   Dec-03-11 06:26 PM   #82 
                                               - At least you got that bit right. Not sure why you have such a problem with my personal definition...  Violet_Crumble   Dec-03-11 08:17 PM   #85 
                                               - Your personal definition is just a way for you to ignore the fact that Israel was deliberately...  shira   Dec-05-11 11:53 AM   #88 
                                               - No, mainly because yr *facts* are nothing more than yr opinions...  Violet_Crumble   Dec-05-11 01:51 PM   #91 
                                               - Which other people, who make up their own personal definitions in defiance of the dictionary, do you  shira   Dec-05-11 03:13 PM   #94 
                                               - The forest seems to have been lost for the trees...  Violet_Crumble   Dec-06-11 03:40 AM   #95 
                                               - No, it wasn't a massacre. The UN admitted as much but keep on with the demonization...  shira   Dec-06-11 06:28 AM   #97 
                                               - Using my definition it wasn't. Using yrs it is...  Violet_Crumble   Dec-07-11 02:50 AM   #99 
                                               - Your definition still suggests slaughter and murder, meaning deliberate/intentional.  shira   Dec-07-11 04:08 AM   #102 
                                               - And running down disabled people with bulldozers isn't intentional?  Violet_Crumble   Dec-07-11 04:34 AM   #104 
                                               - How do you know the INTENT of the IDF in Jenin was to deliberately murder citizens? n/t  shira   Dec-07-11 05:35 AM   #105 
                                               - Well, I asked you whether it was or not.  Violet_Crumble   Dec-07-11 05:56 AM   #108 
                                               - Of course the intent of the IDF wasn't to slaughter/murder out of malice...  shira   Dec-07-11 06:18 AM   #110 
                                               - Ah, so now the Dictionary Definition isn't good enough for you...  Violet_Crumble   Dec-09-11 12:44 AM   #111 
                                               - I'm using the dictionary. You're not. n/t  shira   Dec-09-11 11:00 AM   #114 
                                               - Since when has the Oxford not been a dictionary?  Violet_Crumble   Dec-09-11 03:18 PM   #116 
                                               - The definition you're using doesn't support your personal def'n of massacre. n/t  shira   Dec-09-11 04:20 PM   #119 
                                               - I'm more than happy with the definition I'm using. You, on the other hand, are making up yr own...  Violet_Crumble   Dec-09-11 04:34 PM   #120 
                                               - Bwah!  Recursion   Dec-09-11 09:40 AM   #113 
                                               - Deleted message  Name removed   Dec-05-11 12:48 PM   #89 
                          - Things that are state-sponsored are policy...  Violet_Crumble   Dec-02-11 10:30 PM   #48 
                             - Your moral equivalencies are pathetic and only serve to run interference for Hamas and the PLO...  shira   Dec-03-11 06:39 AM   #57 
                                - Yep, that's me. An agent of Hamas!  Violet_Crumble   Dec-03-11 06:07 PM   #80 
                                   - There's no moral equivalence between a self-critical, free democracy and a dictatorship...  shira   Dec-03-11 06:50 PM   #83 
                                      - Go and tell that to someone who argued that...  Violet_Crumble   Dec-03-11 08:30 PM   #86 
                                         - Israel's chief Rabbi doesn't hold to the same opinions as Lior, now does he?  shira   Dec-05-11 01:01 PM   #90 
                                            - No, he wasn't merely arguing he shouldn't be arrested...  Violet_Crumble   Dec-05-11 01:58 PM   #92 
                                               - But where do you find these Rabbis endorsing Lior's view? Or not caring?  shira   Dec-05-11 03:09 PM   #93 
                                                  - I distinctly recall posting that for you in the post yr replying to..  Violet_Crumble   Dec-06-11 03:47 AM   #96 
                                                  - The head Rabbis have not endorsed Lior...  shira   Dec-06-11 06:41 AM   #98 
                                                  - As I didn't say that, I guess yr now inventing yr own arguments again...  Violet_Crumble   Dec-07-11 03:20 AM   #100 
                                                  - The ISM, BDS movement, and FGM are all as bad or worse than Lior and you still support them.  shira   Dec-07-11 04:06 AM   #101 
                                                  - No, they're not. That yr ignoring Lior's calls for murder and hatred of gentiles is disturbing...  Violet_Crumble   Dec-07-11 04:30 AM   #103 
                                                  - I'm ignoring nothing. Lior's views are vile and he deserves to be condemned...  shira   Dec-07-11 05:36 AM   #106 
                                                  - Yeah, that condemnation's been oozing out of yr every post in this thread!  Violet_Crumble   Dec-07-11 05:55 AM   #107 
                                                  - How many times do I need to condemn him? Unlike yourself, who still supports nasty and vile...  shira   Dec-07-11 06:07 AM   #109 
                                                  - Well, even once would be nice....  Violet_Crumble   Dec-09-11 12:45 AM   #112 
                                                  - I've done it at least 3-4 times in this thread alone. But what makes you think you can lecture...  shira   Dec-09-11 11:02 AM   #115 
                                                  - No you haven't. All you've done is make excuses and deflect...  Violet_Crumble   Dec-09-11 03:49 PM   #117 
                                                  - Lame attempt at projecting your faults onto your opponents, but...  shira   Dec-09-11 04:18 PM   #118 
                                                  - The thing is I don't create fake quotes, and I don't engage in lowering and raising the bar...  Violet_Crumble   Dec-09-11 04:43 PM   #121 
                    - you are totally wrong here.  Shaktimaan   Nov-16-11 12:22 AM   #34 
                       - +100. n/t  shira   Nov-16-11 12:41 AM   #35 
                       - I'll remove that +100 by adding a -1000. That makes it -900! n/t  Violet_Crumble   Nov-16-11 01:05 AM   #37 
                       - No, I'm not, Shakti...  Violet_Crumble   Nov-16-11 01:04 AM   #36 
                          - you're right, it is far too widespread in Israel.  Shaktimaan   Nov-16-11 07:56 AM   #38 
                 - The differences is the messengers of death and destruction are on the PA Government payroll  vminfla   Dec-02-11 08:58 PM   #47 
                    - The Chief Rabbi of Israel isn't on the govt payroll?? n/t  Violet_Crumble   Dec-03-11 12:33 AM   #52 
                    - the difference is...  pelsar   Dec-03-11 03:39 AM   #53 

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