azurnoir
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Fri Sep-09-11 03:34 PM
Response to Reply #6 |
| 11. area B is under Israeli security area A is totally surronded by area's B and C |
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IDF security and Gaza as I have read is considered occupied due to Israel's control ovcer it's sea and air access and penchant for at will bombing and incursions
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Violet_Crumble |
Sep-08-11 05:34 AM |
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This article has so many holes in it... |
shira |
Sep-08-11 10:17 AM |
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That response has so many holes in it... |
shaayecanaan |
Sep-08-11 11:01 AM |
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Abbas just admitted the other day the land is disputed, not occupied... |
shira |
Sep-08-11 11:16 AM |
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Occupied land is by its very nature "disputed" |
shaayecanaan |
Sep-08-11 06:09 PM |
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Definition of occupation, according to Amnesty... |
shira |
Sep-09-11 04:43 AM |
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area B is under Israeli security area A is totally surronded by area's B and C |
azurnoir |
Sep-09-11 03:34 PM |
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By Amnesty's account and Int'l Law, Israel at best occupies |
shira |
Sep-09-11 05:28 PM |
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you never finish your title statement |
azurnoir |
Sep-09-11 05:50 PM |
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Neither Gaza or the WB containing 95% of all Palestinians fit the legal definition of occupation... |
shira |
Sep-09-11 08:05 PM |
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what fatuous claims |
azurnoir |
Sep-10-11 06:05 PM |
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95% of Palestinians in the WB are under no occupation - but PA rule. n/t |
shira |
Sep-10-11 08:40 PM |
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no they are not as my previous post plainly showed |
azurnoir |
Sep-10-11 10:26 PM |
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So? Even if he did, he'd be wrong... |
Violet_Crumble |
Sep-09-11 05:51 AM |
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He did say it and it was reported in Arabic... |
shira |
Sep-09-11 02:01 PM |
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As I've already said, that's not a direct quote... |
Violet_Crumble |
Sep-09-11 05:19 PM |
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He's definitely claiming the WB is currently under dispute... |
shira |
Sep-09-11 08:02 PM |
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No, he's not claiming anything of the sort. Please read my previous posts... |
Violet_Crumble |
Sep-10-11 01:13 AM |
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In post #6, there's a link to Amnesty defining occupation based on Int'l Law... |
shira |
Sep-10-11 05:14 AM |
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That looked applicable to the West Bank... |
Violet_Crumble |
Sep-10-11 05:38 AM |
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How is it applicable to the WB? Did you read that excerpt from AI? n/t |
shira |
Sep-10-11 05:59 AM |
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Israel's occupation of the West Bank meets the criteria in that excerpt... |
Violet_Crumble |
Sep-10-11 06:10 AM |
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Yes, that's it. Read it a few times. Israel pulled its forces out and the PA/Hamas have governed... |
shira |
Sep-10-11 06:26 AM |
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I replied to you further down in the thread... |
Violet_Crumble |
Sep-10-11 06:31 AM |
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Of course the settlements are illegal under international law... |
Violet_Crumble |
Sep-09-11 05:58 AM |
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Not if they're in disputed territory, as Abbas has now admitted to. |
shira |
Sep-09-11 02:02 PM |
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There's absolutely no argument that the West Bank is occupied territory... |
Violet_Crumble |
Sep-09-11 05:22 PM |
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Not according to Amnesty for >95% of all Palestinians in the WB. See #6 above. n/t |
shira |
Sep-09-11 05:30 PM |
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Even the Israeli govt and Supreme Court recognise it as an occupation... |
Violet_Crumble |
Sep-09-11 05:43 PM |
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Which parts of the WB? Before or after Palestinian autonomous rule due to Oslo? n/t |
shira |
Sep-09-11 08:04 PM |
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The entire West Bank. Everything between the Green Line & the Jordan River... |
Violet_Crumble |
Sep-10-11 01:15 AM |
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Amnesty and Int'l Law disagree. See the Amnesty quote and link in post #6. |
shira |
Sep-10-11 05:15 AM |
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No, both view it as an occupation... |
Violet_Crumble |
Sep-10-11 05:42 AM |
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The definition AI supplies based on Hague Conventions doesn't apply. |
shira |
Sep-10-11 05:59 AM |
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Of course it applies... |
Violet_Crumble |
Sep-10-11 06:13 AM |
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Sorry, the excerpt from AI in post #6 above is quite clear. The IDF hasn't had effective control... |
shira |
Sep-10-11 06:21 AM |
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Well, it'd be clear to most people, including myself... |
Violet_Crumble |
Sep-10-11 06:30 AM |
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Let's go over the Amnesty/Hague definition of Occupation... |
shira |
Sep-10-11 06:44 AM |
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The IDF isn't the military authority in the West Bank?? |
Violet_Crumble |
Sep-10-11 07:20 AM |
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There are no IDF boots on the ground where >95% of all Palestinians live... |
shira |
Sep-10-11 08:03 AM |
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IDF increases West Bank presence following Itamar terror attack |
Violet_Crumble |
Sep-10-11 05:38 PM |
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Let's see if we can agree on something. Is Gaza occupied? |
shira |
Sep-10-11 08:43 PM |
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Fair enough. We won't be in such extreme disagreement about that one... |
Violet_Crumble |
Sep-11-11 03:41 AM |
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your claims are fatuous indeed |
azurnoir |
Sep-10-11 06:36 PM |
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see #41. n/t |
shira |
Sep-10-11 08:43 PM |
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you are still incorrect as the post you replied showed |
azurnoir |
Sep-10-11 10:19 PM |
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Israel’s UN Ambassador Held 70 Meetings With Counterparts |
Scurrilous |
Sep-08-11 06:04 PM |
#4 |
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