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Gimel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-03 03:31 AM
Response to Reply #6
21. Cessation of violence
It's true that Sharon demanded a complete cessation of violence for a week before he would begin implementing the Tenet Plan. However, the expectation of complete security for every Israeli is obviously an exaggeration. Of course, the cessation of violent attacks is a goal. The mass bombings have to be eliminated. Attacks orchestrated by terrorist organizations have to be eliminated. Occasional criminal or individual activists unrelated to an organized group attacking an Israeli would not mean that the peace process is scuttled. This was the case with both the Egyptian and the Jordanian Peace settlements. Individuals seeking vengence did attack. Compensation was made for deaths and damages.
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  -Can It Ever Really End? bluesoul  Dec-02-03 01:54 PM   #0 
  - At least I agree in part  Muddleoftheroad   Dec-02-03 02:04 PM   #1 
  - Build a wall, tell the Palestinians to go to Hell  number6   Dec-02-03 10:11 PM   #18 
     - Your words not mine  Muddleoftheroad   Dec-03-03 12:36 AM   #19 
  - This article makes some good points  legin   Dec-02-03 02:11 PM   #2 
  - Moral compensation  Muddleoftheroad   Dec-02-03 03:56 PM   #4 
  - to say that it was wrong to drive them out and not let them return  BlackFrancis   Dec-02-03 04:10 PM   #5 
  - Are you advocating for the right of return?  Muddleoftheroad   Dec-02-03 04:31 PM   #7 
  - Mmmmm...  legin   Dec-02-03 04:37 PM   #8 
     - That adds to my belief that this will never end  Muddleoftheroad   Dec-02-03 04:44 PM   #9 
        - Actually  Saudade   Dec-02-03 04:59 PM   #10 
        - I don't understand your "realities"  Muddleoftheroad   Dec-02-03 07:27 PM   #12 
           - Sure, Muddle  sushi   Dec-05-03 07:49 PM   #70 
        - it's a bit more than good marketing  legin   Dec-02-03 05:25 PM   #11 
           - Apologies won't work either  Muddleoftheroad   Dec-02-03 07:29 PM   #13 
              - Perhaps you're expecting too much, Muddle  Jack Rabbit   Dec-02-03 08:31 PM   #14 
                 - No, I don't expect perfection  Muddleoftheroad   Dec-02-03 09:17 PM   #15 
                    - Suicide bombers ever couple of days?  Jack Rabbit   Dec-02-03 09:29 PM   #16 
                    - I don't know how to stop it, do you?  Muddleoftheroad   Dec-02-03 09:50 PM   #17 
                       - You are, imo, not using  sushi   Dec-05-03 08:06 PM   #71 
                          - Nope, right word  Muddleoftheroad   Dec-05-03 10:36 PM   #75 
                             - You act/speak as if  sushi   Dec-06-03 02:31 PM   #78 
                    - We can expect  sushi   Dec-05-03 08:13 PM   #72 
                       - What does it take for you to see peace is not being offered to Israel?  Muddleoftheroad   Dec-05-03 10:38 PM   #76 
                          - Peace is negotiated  sushi   Dec-06-03 02:49 PM   #79 
  - Substitution  Gimel   Dec-03-03 03:15 AM   #20 
     - Of course it's not right  sushi   Dec-05-03 08:32 PM   #73 
  - Mr Bahour  tinnypriv   Dec-02-03 02:16 PM   #3 
  - Good article  Saudade   Dec-02-03 04:28 PM   #6 
     - Cessation of violence  Gimel   Dec-03-03 03:31 AM   #21 
     - Not absolute security  Muddleoftheroad   Dec-03-03 07:53 AM   #22 
        - Get real  bluesoul   Dec-03-03 07:57 AM   #23 
           - Getting real  Muddleoftheroad   Dec-03-03 08:00 AM   #24 
              - The Geneva Accord  bluesoul   Dec-03-03 08:03 AM   #25 
              - The Geneva Accord  Muddleoftheroad   Dec-03-03 08:48 AM   #26 
                 - We'll se about that  bluesoul   Dec-03-03 08:50 AM   #27 
                    - You are the one who posted this article  Muddleoftheroad   Dec-03-03 08:58 AM   #28 
                       - That is how you read it  bluesoul   Dec-03-03 09:02 AM   #29 
                       - Right of return is a fantasy  Muddleoftheroad   Dec-03-03 09:03 AM   #30 
                       - Or so you seem to HOPE.. apparently....  edzontar   Dec-03-03 09:07 AM   #31 
                          - I hope for peace  Muddleoftheroad   Dec-03-03 09:11 AM   #32 
                             - The "Palestinians" in Israel are both citizens....  edzontar   Dec-03-03 09:22 AM   #33 
                             - I disagree on a couple things  Muddleoftheroad   Dec-03-03 09:26 AM   #35 
                                - One problem--the Settlements are surrounded on ALL Sides  edzontar   Dec-03-03 09:58 AM   #45 
                                   - "There is no easy answer to this"  Muddleoftheroad   Dec-03-03 10:03 AM   #47 
                             - Forever war?  bluesoul   Dec-03-03 09:24 AM   #34 
                             - Even the Nazis didn't last forever?  GabysPoppy   Dec-03-03 09:26 AM   #36 
                             - This is ridiculous  bluesoul   Dec-03-03 09:28 AM   #38 
                                - You are the one who compared Palestinians to Nazis  Muddleoftheroad   Dec-03-03 09:29 AM   #39 
                                - Not mindreading  GabysPoppy   Dec-03-03 09:31 AM   #40 
                                   - I don't see anything offending there  bluesoul   Dec-03-03 09:33 AM   #41 
                                      - You keep saying we mean ALL Europeans  Muddleoftheroad   Dec-03-03 09:40 AM   #42 
                                      - Even a hell lot of them is  bluesoul   Dec-03-03 09:41 AM   #43 
                                      - That's not generalizing  Muddleoftheroad   Dec-03-03 09:51 AM   #44 
                                         - Actually "a hell of a lot of them" is just very imprecise speech...  edzontar   Dec-03-03 10:00 AM   #46 
                                         - Imprecise because we don't know how many  Muddleoftheroad   Dec-03-03 10:05 AM   #48 
                                         - The number of acts can more or less be quantified...  edzontar   Dec-03-03 10:34 AM   #49 
                                         - It is almost impossible to quantify prejudice  Muddleoftheroad   Dec-03-03 11:32 AM   #51 
                                         - The sad fact is that this line of rhetoric could end up backfiring...  edzontar   Dec-03-03 12:16 PM   #52 
                                         - No Ed, you don't get it  GabysPoppy   Dec-03-03 01:05 PM   #53 
                                         - Good points--and I agree with all that you say....  edzontar   Dec-03-03 01:22 PM   #54 
                                         - Then a question  Muddleoftheroad   Dec-04-03 06:15 AM   #55 
                                         - Not necessarily....  edzontar   Dec-04-03 10:43 AM   #58 
                                         - Answer...  Violet_Crumble   Dec-04-03 03:15 PM   #64 
                                         - If you want to answer Muddle's question  GabysPoppy   Dec-04-03 06:57 AM   #56 
                                         - OK--here goes.....  edzontar   Dec-04-03 10:35 AM   #57 
                                         - Well Said, Mr. Zontar  The Magistrate   Dec-04-03 12:48 PM   #59 
                                         - But who Sir, does here  bluesoul   Dec-04-03 12:55 PM   #60 
                                         - That Is True Here, Sir  The Magistrate   Dec-04-03 01:15 PM   #61 
                                         - I merely note that both of my friends have used the word "but"  edzontar   Dec-06-03 03:53 PM   #82 
                                         - LOL  bluesoul   Dec-06-03 03:59 PM   #83 
                                         - Not me, for sure...  edzontar   Dec-04-03 02:37 PM   #62 
                                      - "We"?  Violet_Crumble   Dec-04-03 03:13 PM   #63 
                                         - I am not the only one who has be so criticized  Muddleoftheroad   Dec-05-03 10:39 PM   #77 
                                      - Twisting things is how some people think they win arguments  edzontar   Dec-03-03 10:36 AM   #50 
                             - I am a realist  Muddleoftheroad   Dec-03-03 09:27 AM   #37 
                                - Irish ancestry...  Violet_Crumble   Dec-04-03 04:16 PM   #65 
                                   - I'm 3/4 Irish  edzontar   Dec-04-03 04:24 PM   #66 
                                   - Ireland vs. I/P  Muddleoftheroad   Dec-04-03 11:00 PM   #67 
                                      - Deleted message  Name removed   Dec-05-03 08:31 AM   #68 
                                      - Thanks a lot Mr. Muddle.  edzontar   Dec-05-03 01:27 PM   #69 
                                         - Sorry, but I'm only a little green after all  Muddleoftheroad   Dec-05-03 10:34 PM   #74 
                             - You are actually  sushi   Dec-06-03 03:08 PM   #80 
              - Such pessimism!  sushi   Dec-06-03 03:29 PM   #81 
 

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