Muddleoftheroad
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Tue Dec-02-03 07:27 PM
Response to Reply #10 |
| 12. I don't understand your "realities" |
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Because they are not real.
Israel has avoided walling itself off from the world because they know they have to live there and, unfortunately, they continue to believe they will one day live in peace.
Guess what? Not going to happen. Even if the Palestinians get a state, they will still want more. Israel will be beset throughout history from without.
A wall would have clarified things. No Palestinians allowed in -- ever. Israel for Israelis. Now it is too late. Because WHEREVER they build a wall, the Palestinians will complain and keep attacking. The UN will complain that Israel is not providing jobs (as if that were ISRAEL'S job), the left in America will complain that Israel is not trying to incorporate itself into the Mideast.
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| -Can It Ever Really End? |
bluesoul |
Dec-02-03 01:54 PM |
#0 |
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At least I agree in part |
Muddleoftheroad |
Dec-02-03 02:04 PM |
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Build a wall, tell the Palestinians to go to Hell |
number6 |
Dec-02-03 10:11 PM |
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Your words not mine |
Muddleoftheroad |
Dec-03-03 12:36 AM |
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This article makes some good points |
legin |
Dec-02-03 02:11 PM |
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Moral compensation |
Muddleoftheroad |
Dec-02-03 03:56 PM |
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to say that it was wrong to drive them out and not let them return |
BlackFrancis |
Dec-02-03 04:10 PM |
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Are you advocating for the right of return? |
Muddleoftheroad |
Dec-02-03 04:31 PM |
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Mmmmm... |
legin |
Dec-02-03 04:37 PM |
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That adds to my belief that this will never end |
Muddleoftheroad |
Dec-02-03 04:44 PM |
#9 |
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Actually |
Saudade |
Dec-02-03 04:59 PM |
#10 |
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I don't understand your "realities" |
Muddleoftheroad |
Dec-02-03 07:27 PM |
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Sure, Muddle |
sushi |
Dec-05-03 07:49 PM |
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it's a bit more than good marketing |
legin |
Dec-02-03 05:25 PM |
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Apologies won't work either |
Muddleoftheroad |
Dec-02-03 07:29 PM |
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Perhaps you're expecting too much, Muddle |
Jack Rabbit |
Dec-02-03 08:31 PM |
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No, I don't expect perfection |
Muddleoftheroad |
Dec-02-03 09:17 PM |
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Suicide bombers ever couple of days? |
Jack Rabbit |
Dec-02-03 09:29 PM |
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I don't know how to stop it, do you? |
Muddleoftheroad |
Dec-02-03 09:50 PM |
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You are, imo, not using |
sushi |
Dec-05-03 08:06 PM |
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Nope, right word |
Muddleoftheroad |
Dec-05-03 10:36 PM |
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You act/speak as if |
sushi |
Dec-06-03 02:31 PM |
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We can expect |
sushi |
Dec-05-03 08:13 PM |
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What does it take for you to see peace is not being offered to Israel? |
Muddleoftheroad |
Dec-05-03 10:38 PM |
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Peace is negotiated |
sushi |
Dec-06-03 02:49 PM |
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Substitution |
Gimel |
Dec-03-03 03:15 AM |
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Of course it's not right |
sushi |
Dec-05-03 08:32 PM |
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Mr Bahour |
tinnypriv |
Dec-02-03 02:16 PM |
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Good article |
Saudade |
Dec-02-03 04:28 PM |
#6 |
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Cessation of violence |
Gimel |
Dec-03-03 03:31 AM |
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Not absolute security |
Muddleoftheroad |
Dec-03-03 07:53 AM |
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Get real |
bluesoul |
Dec-03-03 07:57 AM |
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Getting real |
Muddleoftheroad |
Dec-03-03 08:00 AM |
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The Geneva Accord |
bluesoul |
Dec-03-03 08:03 AM |
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The Geneva Accord |
Muddleoftheroad |
Dec-03-03 08:48 AM |
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We'll se about that |
bluesoul |
Dec-03-03 08:50 AM |
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You are the one who posted this article |
Muddleoftheroad |
Dec-03-03 08:58 AM |
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That is how you read it |
bluesoul |
Dec-03-03 09:02 AM |
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Right of return is a fantasy |
Muddleoftheroad |
Dec-03-03 09:03 AM |
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Or so you seem to HOPE.. apparently.... |
edzontar |
Dec-03-03 09:07 AM |
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I hope for peace |
Muddleoftheroad |
Dec-03-03 09:11 AM |
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The "Palestinians" in Israel are both citizens.... |
edzontar |
Dec-03-03 09:22 AM |
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I disagree on a couple things |
Muddleoftheroad |
Dec-03-03 09:26 AM |
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One problem--the Settlements are surrounded on ALL Sides |
edzontar |
Dec-03-03 09:58 AM |
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"There is no easy answer to this" |
Muddleoftheroad |
Dec-03-03 10:03 AM |
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Forever war? |
bluesoul |
Dec-03-03 09:24 AM |
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Even the Nazis didn't last forever? |
GabysPoppy |
Dec-03-03 09:26 AM |
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This is ridiculous |
bluesoul |
Dec-03-03 09:28 AM |
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You are the one who compared Palestinians to Nazis |
Muddleoftheroad |
Dec-03-03 09:29 AM |
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Not mindreading |
GabysPoppy |
Dec-03-03 09:31 AM |
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I don't see anything offending there |
bluesoul |
Dec-03-03 09:33 AM |
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You keep saying we mean ALL Europeans |
Muddleoftheroad |
Dec-03-03 09:40 AM |
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Even a hell lot of them is |
bluesoul |
Dec-03-03 09:41 AM |
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That's not generalizing |
Muddleoftheroad |
Dec-03-03 09:51 AM |
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Actually "a hell of a lot of them" is just very imprecise speech... |
edzontar |
Dec-03-03 10:00 AM |
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Imprecise because we don't know how many |
Muddleoftheroad |
Dec-03-03 10:05 AM |
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The number of acts can more or less be quantified... |
edzontar |
Dec-03-03 10:34 AM |
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It is almost impossible to quantify prejudice |
Muddleoftheroad |
Dec-03-03 11:32 AM |
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The sad fact is that this line of rhetoric could end up backfiring... |
edzontar |
Dec-03-03 12:16 PM |
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No Ed, you don't get it |
GabysPoppy |
Dec-03-03 01:05 PM |
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Good points--and I agree with all that you say.... |
edzontar |
Dec-03-03 01:22 PM |
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Then a question |
Muddleoftheroad |
Dec-04-03 06:15 AM |
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Not necessarily.... |
edzontar |
Dec-04-03 10:43 AM |
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Answer... |
Violet_Crumble |
Dec-04-03 03:15 PM |
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If you want to answer Muddle's question |
GabysPoppy |
Dec-04-03 06:57 AM |
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OK--here goes..... |
edzontar |
Dec-04-03 10:35 AM |
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Well Said, Mr. Zontar |
The Magistrate |
Dec-04-03 12:48 PM |
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But who Sir, does here |
bluesoul |
Dec-04-03 12:55 PM |
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That Is True Here, Sir |
The Magistrate |
Dec-04-03 01:15 PM |
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I merely note that both of my friends have used the word "but" |
edzontar |
Dec-06-03 03:53 PM |
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LOL |
bluesoul |
Dec-06-03 03:59 PM |
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Not me, for sure... |
edzontar |
Dec-04-03 02:37 PM |
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"We"? |
Violet_Crumble |
Dec-04-03 03:13 PM |
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I am not the only one who has be so criticized |
Muddleoftheroad |
Dec-05-03 10:39 PM |
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Twisting things is how some people think they win arguments |
edzontar |
Dec-03-03 10:36 AM |
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I am a realist |
Muddleoftheroad |
Dec-03-03 09:27 AM |
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Irish ancestry... |
Violet_Crumble |
Dec-04-03 04:16 PM |
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I'm 3/4 Irish |
edzontar |
Dec-04-03 04:24 PM |
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Ireland vs. I/P |
Muddleoftheroad |
Dec-04-03 11:00 PM |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Dec-05-03 08:31 AM |
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Thanks a lot Mr. Muddle. |
edzontar |
Dec-05-03 01:27 PM |
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Sorry, but I'm only a little green after all |
Muddleoftheroad |
Dec-05-03 10:34 PM |
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You are actually |
sushi |
Dec-06-03 03:08 PM |
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Such pessimism! |
sushi |
Dec-06-03 03:29 PM |
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