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Tue Dec-09-03 06:27 AM
Response to Reply #98 |
| 101. The US has FAR less history PERIOD. |
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Edited on Tue Dec-09-03 06:41 AM by Paschall
If you want to talk about Europe and use the US as a comparison (which you do implicitly in post after post) let's limit our discussion to comparable time periods, the last 230 years in Europe.
That means no more mention of the Roman destruction of Jerusalem and no more mention of the Inquisition. Deal?
But, on the other hand, if you like we could try employing the techniques used by the EU researchers in the study posted and start cataloguing anti-Semitic websites and publications in the US. We could also discuss the history of the German-American Bund and the Silver Shirts, the KKK, and other anti-Semitic groups. Whaddya think?
ON EDIT: To answer your question, yes I think anti-Semitic websites in the US should be shut down, particularly if they advocate or applaud violence against Jews. You'll note in the study posted that the definition of anti-Semitic acts included simple advocacy of violence against Jews, or glorification of the Nazis by displaying the swastika or other Nazi symbols. Either you must ignore that category of anti-Semitic act in Europe, or you must support criminalizing it in the US. Otherwise--as concerns this category of anti-Semitic act--you're getting your panties in a bunch over a European problem, but turning the other cheek to the same phenomenon in the US. No pun intended.
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| -Manifestations of anti-Semitism in the European Union |
drdon326 |
Dec-01-03 07:28 PM |
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From the article |
drdon326 |
Dec-01-03 07:38 PM |
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Europe seems to be |
rini |
Dec-01-03 07:48 PM |
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What do you mean? |
Darranar |
Dec-01-03 07:56 PM |
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it's a fill in the blank |
rini |
Dec-01-03 07:59 PM |
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It is my view... |
Darranar |
Dec-01-03 08:18 PM |
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Youre right.... |
drdon326 |
Dec-01-03 08:21 PM |
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So what IS? |
Darranar |
Dec-01-03 08:22 PM |
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From drdon326's quote: |
pistoff democrat |
Dec-02-03 05:34 AM |
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Well... |
Darranar |
Dec-02-03 03:52 PM |
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Infiltration? |
Gimel |
Dec-02-03 12:48 AM |
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Dec-03-03 06:30 PM |
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Ill tell you what I think |
GabysPoppy |
Dec-03-03 06:43 PM |
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I DON'T understand |
sushi |
Dec-03-03 07:02 PM |
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Many Do, Ma'am, Hate Jews Because They Are Jews |
The Magistrate |
Dec-03-03 07:39 PM |
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Dec-03-03 09:47 PM |
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I think I've answered your question. |
sushi |
Dec-04-03 08:31 PM |
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Never Saw It Myself, Ma'am |
The Magistrate |
Dec-04-03 09:00 PM |
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I have had a couple disappear without seeing the reason. |
bemildred |
Dec-04-03 09:22 PM |
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Nasty? |
sushi |
Dec-03-03 06:38 PM |
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Lithos or ugrr |
drdon326 |
Dec-01-03 07:42 PM |
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No |
Lithos |
Dec-01-03 08:32 PM |
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Thanks |
Muddleoftheroad |
Dec-01-03 09:46 PM |
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There may be a few |
GabysPoppy |
Dec-16-03 12:32 PM |
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Thanks for posting, Doc |
Jack Rabbit |
Dec-01-03 10:43 PM |
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Jack.... |
drdon326 |
Dec-02-03 05:51 AM |
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boycott this crap |
BlackFrancis |
Dec-02-03 09:09 AM |
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Oh, dear! |
pistoff democrat |
Dec-02-03 09:33 AM |
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Oh yeah, it makes Europe look real bad, so it MUST be off topic |
Muddleoftheroad |
Dec-02-03 09:38 AM |
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Why does it make Europe look real bad? |
bluesoul |
Dec-02-03 09:43 AM |
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I let Europe's history speak for itself |
Muddleoftheroad |
Dec-02-03 09:47 AM |
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Evil growing? |
bluesoul |
Dec-02-03 09:52 AM |
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Hey, I didn't write the report |
Muddleoftheroad |
Dec-02-03 10:22 AM |
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It isn't happening and it is not going to |
bluesoul |
Dec-02-03 10:28 AM |
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Did you actually read this |
Muddleoftheroad |
Dec-02-03 10:44 AM |
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Does the US? |
Paschall |
Dec-09-03 05:42 AM |
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Excellent point |
bluesoul |
Dec-09-03 06:02 AM |
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The U.S. has FAR less history of anti-Semitism |
Muddleoftheroad |
Dec-09-03 06:23 AM |
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The USA had (or even has) enough |
bluesoul |
Dec-09-03 06:27 AM |
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And those are not anti-Semitism |
Muddleoftheroad |
Dec-09-03 06:34 AM |
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The US has FAR less history PERIOD. |
Paschall |
Dec-09-03 06:27 AM |
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Yes, we have less history |
Muddleoftheroad |
Dec-09-03 06:43 AM |
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I'm supposed to be impressed? |
Paschall |
Dec-09-03 06:55 AM |
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Not so |
Muddleoftheroad |
Dec-09-03 09:00 AM |
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I never said Benjamin owned slaves |
Paschall |
Dec-09-03 09:05 AM |
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Benjamin |
Muddleoftheroad |
Dec-09-03 09:24 AM |
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Your final sentence is not your penultimate sentence. Look it up |
Paschall |
Dec-09-03 09:40 AM |
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HUH |
Muddleoftheroad |
Dec-09-03 11:58 AM |
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My post 111 is in response to your post 109 |
Paschall |
Dec-10-03 03:45 AM |
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As I stated |
Muddleoftheroad |
Dec-10-03 06:44 AM |
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Leading advocate of ending slavery? |
Paschall |
Dec-10-03 07:41 AM |
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The South |
Muddleoftheroad |
Dec-10-03 10:17 AM |
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Dec-10-03 11:42 AM |
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I'm not ignoring it. Benjamin never suggested "ending slavery" |
Paschall |
Dec-10-03 12:24 PM |
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Boy you like the cul de sac. Is that to avoid Europe's responsibility? |
Muddleoftheroad |
Dec-10-03 04:01 PM |
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You drove us into this cul de sac. You have only yourself to blame |
Paschall |
Dec-11-03 03:52 AM |
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Now more like a dead end |
Muddleoftheroad |
Dec-11-03 07:29 AM |
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Couple thousand of years!?!? |
bluesoul |
Dec-11-03 07:33 AM |
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Hmmm, fall of Jerusalem |
Muddleoftheroad |
Dec-11-03 08:19 AM |
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The Romans, right? |
edzontar |
Dec-11-03 08:28 AM |
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Trend lines |
Muddleoftheroad |
Dec-11-03 08:30 AM |
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You make no sense at all |
edzontar |
Dec-11-03 08:36 AM |
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I didn't invent the Diaspora |
Muddleoftheroad |
Dec-11-03 08:39 AM |
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One question, please... |
Darranar |
Dec-11-03 08:30 AM |
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Excellent question... where's Muddle's response? |
Paschall |
Dec-11-03 10:07 AM |
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Maybe because they are not Europeans... |
edzontar |
Dec-11-03 10:13 AM |
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Well, they both were responsible... |
Darranar |
Dec-11-03 10:49 AM |
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It's all about bashing Europe, don't ya see? |
edzontar |
Dec-11-03 10:57 AM |
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Welcome to the Bizarro world. |
edzontar |
Dec-11-03 08:09 AM |
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The Bizarro continent of Europe |
Muddleoftheroad |
Dec-11-03 08:24 AM |
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Again--what about lynchings--segregation, forced sterlization, Jim Crow? |
edzontar |
Dec-11-03 08:29 AM |
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Again, a history that has been rapidly evolving |
Muddleoftheroad |
Dec-11-03 08:31 AM |
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America killed off most of its Native population... |
edzontar |
Dec-11-03 08:37 AM |
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And if this were the Native American board... |
Muddleoftheroad |
Dec-11-03 08:41 AM |
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Another question... |
Darranar |
Dec-11-03 08:45 AM |
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It gives us a context |
Muddleoftheroad |
Dec-11-03 08:52 AM |
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What? |
edzontar |
Dec-11-03 08:55 AM |
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Dec-11-03 08:47 AM |
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The origin of this thread remains EUROPEAN activity |
Muddleoftheroad |
Dec-11-03 08:55 AM |
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YOU brought up the US and the Confederacy... |
edzontar |
Dec-11-03 09:01 AM |
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There's a small, but significant difference in this regard |
Paschall |
Dec-11-03 08:54 AM |
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Note |
Paschall |
Dec-11-03 08:31 AM |
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I like Europe |
Muddleoftheroad |
Dec-11-03 08:33 AM |
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Well tell me what Europe should do, in your eyes... |
Paschall |
Dec-11-03 08:42 AM |
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A long list |
Muddleoftheroad |
Dec-11-03 09:15 AM |
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Basically being |
bluesoul |
Dec-11-03 09:18 AM |
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Nope |
Muddleoftheroad |
Dec-11-03 09:26 AM |
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Your notion of a totalizing history of connected guilt |
edzontar |
Dec-11-03 09:49 AM |
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Apparently the fact |
bluesoul |
Dec-11-03 09:53 AM |
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It is an irrational, paranoic argument |
edzontar |
Dec-11-03 09:59 AM |
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People were impacted by those institutions |
Muddleoftheroad |
Dec-11-03 11:16 PM |
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But they are not related.. |
edzontar |
Dec-12-03 07:38 AM |
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Those are all rather minor complaints. I can't believe you... |
Paschall |
Dec-11-03 09:45 AM |
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Utter nonsense |
edzontar |
Dec-11-03 08:46 AM |
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Thanks for the note.... |
edzontar |
Dec-11-03 08:39 AM |
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Harumph |
Paschall |
Dec-11-03 08:21 AM |
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Europe |
Muddleoftheroad |
Dec-11-03 08:29 AM |
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Europe is a very diverse and interesting continent. |
edzontar |
Dec-11-03 08:31 AM |
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Aren't ignorance and irrational fear... |
Paschall |
Dec-11-03 08:41 AM |
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Paschall, you just don't get it.... |
edzontar |
Dec-11-03 08:50 AM |
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Note you said "irrational" |
Muddleoftheroad |
Dec-11-03 08:53 AM |
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Round and round and round we go... |
edzontar |
Dec-11-03 08:57 AM |
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Not even close |
Muddleoftheroad |
Dec-11-03 09:23 AM |
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Who said |
bluesoul |
Dec-11-03 08:57 AM |
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Do you NOT think Germany and France are a bit part of the EU? |
Muddleoftheroad |
Dec-11-03 09:24 AM |
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We could also talk about |
bluesoul |
Dec-11-03 09:33 AM |
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Which history is that? |
Paschall |
Dec-11-03 09:06 AM |
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Do police track hate crimes? |
GabysPoppy |
Dec-09-03 07:38 AM |
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I referred to US police authorities... meaning nationally |
Paschall |
Dec-09-03 09:00 AM |
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Is the FBI good enough for you? |
Muddleoftheroad |
Dec-09-03 09:12 AM |
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FBI stats do not cover the entire nation |
Paschall |
Dec-09-03 09:30 AM |
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75% |
Muddleoftheroad |
Dec-09-03 09:31 AM |
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Europe is not the one currently engaged |
bluesoul |
Dec-09-03 09:33 AM |
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This being I/P, how does that relate? |
Muddleoftheroad |
Dec-09-03 10:31 AM |
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A lot more than Europe is doing? That's debatable |
Paschall |
Dec-09-03 09:47 AM |
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We track more, have done a lot less |
Muddleoftheroad |
Dec-09-03 10:31 AM |
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Three points |
GabysPoppy |
Dec-09-03 09:15 AM |
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bluesoul..... |
drdon326 |
Dec-02-03 10:32 AM |
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And that is because of security threats |
bluesoul |
Dec-02-03 10:43 AM |
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Yeah ....youre right |
drdon326 |
Dec-02-03 11:04 AM |
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It would seem those figures are skewed |
Paschall |
Dec-09-03 10:41 AM |
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sins of the father, eh? |
Dutch |
Dec-02-03 12:52 PM |
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Not just sins of the father |
Muddleoftheroad |
Dec-02-03 01:25 PM |
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Even when it's |
bluesoul |
Dec-02-03 01:27 PM |
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Many of the nations are the same |
Muddleoftheroad |
Dec-02-03 01:33 PM |
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you make a wonderful point |
rini |
Dec-02-03 04:05 PM |
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Dec-03-03 10:21 PM |
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Creating a state does not even vaguely create peace |
Muddleoftheroad |
Dec-03-03 10:24 PM |
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Then how do you explain the anti-Semitism in Poland? |
Paschall |
Dec-09-03 05:55 AM |
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Poland |
Muddleoftheroad |
Dec-09-03 06:38 AM |
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Dec-09-03 06:50 AM |
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Hahahahaha |
Paschall |
Dec-09-03 09:02 AM |
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I only read the section on the UK, but this is nonsense |
tinnypriv |
Dec-02-03 11:30 AM |
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Laughable.... |
drdon326 |
Dec-02-03 12:14 PM |
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Since I made clear |
tinnypriv |
Dec-02-03 12:16 PM |
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Like I didnt see it ?? |
drdon326 |
Dec-02-03 12:30 PM |
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Seems you don't understand |
tinnypriv |
Dec-02-03 12:46 PM |
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just quit.. |
BlackFrancis |
Dec-02-03 12:46 PM |
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Because they get away with it |
bluesoul |
Dec-02-03 12:47 PM |
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What's scary |
Muddleoftheroad |
Dec-02-03 01:27 PM |
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Dec-02-03 01:42 PM |
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Chumps |
Muddleoftheroad |
Dec-02-03 01:48 PM |
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if you say so.. |
BlackFrancis |
Dec-02-03 01:54 PM |
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The I/P conflict |
Muddleoftheroad |
Dec-02-03 02:25 PM |
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Dec-02-03 02:35 PM |
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So anti-Semitism is bullshit? |
Muddleoftheroad |
Dec-02-03 03:26 PM |
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No, just jingo right wingers |
Noon_Blue_Apples |
Dec-02-03 03:30 PM |
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So this report is bullshit in your mind or not? |
Muddleoftheroad |
Dec-02-03 03:38 PM |
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He's already answered that question... |
Violet_Crumble |
Dec-02-03 04:15 PM |
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Maybe he wated to hear it again |
Gimel |
Dec-02-03 11:43 PM |
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Is there a problem with rereading an answer? |
Violet_Crumble |
Dec-06-03 07:30 AM |
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anti-anti-semitism is bullshit |
BlackFrancis |
Dec-02-03 03:33 PM |
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Measures to combat anti-semitism |
Gimel |
Dec-10-03 01:47 PM |
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obviously it is |
Noon_Blue_Apples |
Dec-02-03 03:27 PM |
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Willlll-leeeee |
drdon326 |
Dec-02-03 03:35 PM |
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No, the silence is the proof |
Noon_Blue_Apples |
Dec-02-03 03:44 PM |
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Wha ????? |
drdon326 |
Dec-02-03 03:54 PM |
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If this had been the settlers |
Gimel |
Dec-02-03 11:54 PM |
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It does happen in the WB |
tinnypriv |
Dec-04-03 12:29 AM |
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there are a few incidents |
Gimel |
Dec-04-03 08:16 AM |
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They shouldn't be there in the first place |
bluesoul |
Dec-04-03 08:27 AM |
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Illegality |
Gimel |
Dec-04-03 09:49 AM |
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All bigotry should be condemned... |
Violet_Crumble |
Dec-02-03 04:21 PM |
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Sweeping comments about Europeans |
Muddleoftheroad |
Dec-02-03 10:05 PM |
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Oh, you mean the Europeans as a people wrote the report? |
Darranar |
Dec-02-03 10:27 PM |
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Is it fair to downplay? |
Gimel |
Dec-02-03 11:59 PM |
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Who has downplayed it? |
Darranar |
Dec-03-03 04:27 PM |
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the efforts of the GOI |
Gimel |
Dec-04-03 08:32 AM |
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Every place has problems |
Muddleoftheroad |
Dec-03-03 04:33 PM |
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And every place has had problems in the past, too. |
Darranar |
Dec-03-03 05:52 PM |
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But, and it's a BIG but |
Muddleoftheroad |
Dec-03-03 07:52 PM |
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Right |
Paschall |
Dec-09-03 06:01 AM |
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For VC........ONLY......LOL |
drdon326 |
Dec-04-03 06:58 AM |
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Nobody was even hurt |
bluesoul |
Dec-04-03 07:01 AM |
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Being an abused minority |
Muddleoftheroad |
Dec-04-03 07:14 AM |
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I did lose many members |
bluesoul |
Dec-04-03 07:18 AM |
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So then you should appreciate how even a small event |
Muddleoftheroad |
Dec-04-03 07:35 AM |
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I do |
bluesoul |
Dec-04-03 07:44 AM |
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I think a new Hitler in Europe is unlikely |
Muddleoftheroad |
Dec-04-03 08:26 AM |
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A French opinion, since you asked for one |
Paschall |
Dec-09-03 06:21 AM |
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I guess those Jews |
bluesoul |
Dec-09-03 06:25 AM |
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Right |
pistoff democrat |
Dec-10-03 05:56 PM |
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Well, since you seem convinced... |
Paschall |
Dec-11-03 06:55 AM |
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Homeless |
Gimel |
Dec-04-03 08:36 AM |
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Who said |
bluesoul |
Dec-04-03 08:40 AM |
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It is as important |
Gimel |
Dec-04-03 10:16 AM |
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Why wonder? |
GabysPoppy |
Dec-04-03 08:50 AM |
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this is disturbing |
dudeness |
Dec-10-03 12:24 PM |
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kick |
drdon326 |
Dec-16-03 10:19 AM |
#187 |