Reply #64: I'm afraid you still don't understand my principles......

[kayecy]

...I believe violence is actually the standard for massive cultural change, do you have any examples of the opposite?

I'm afraid you still don't understand my principles......I may be disgusted with Hamas's violence etc and may even agree with you that the 1920s Palestinians were uncivilized, but I object to anyone using force simply to make them change their culture......They have a right to develop their own culture and values in the same way that the west developed its values over the last few hundred years.

Of course, if a large proportion of, say Afghan women banded together and asked the west for assistance to relieve their servitude, then I might be prepared to use force for that purpose. (Providing, of course, that the force itself didn't result in too much human suffering!)

And didnt you write you would have joined hamas to resist with violence cultural change in Palestine to social democracy that involved jewish domination?

Again, you amaze me......Of course I would fight to the death to avoid domination by any foreign culture..... Domination is anathema to me and judging by the frequent Arab riots, to most Palestinans...Israeli Arabs have a relatively high standard of living and almost political equality with Jews....However, the proof of the pudding will be if, heaven forbid, there is a major 'symmetrical' conflict between Palestinians and Israelis and Israeli Arabs are forced to chose which side to fight on.