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kayecy Donating Member (931 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-01-11 09:18 AM
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50. Now we have identified exactly where we disagree.....
.....how far back in history do you want to go? and why did you chose that particular date?....and how about those arab immigrants, are you counting them as part of the original Palestinians (in case you don't know an undetermined number came in the 1920-30s as the zionists developed the economy).

1. As far back as you like, providing you (or any other immigrant) can show your ancestors came from Palestine.

2. Some Palestinians no doubt were also immigrants in the 1920s, but as far as I am aware, no numbers have ever been verified, nor did they cause the indigenous inhabitants to riot. We do know that some 300,000 Zionists arrived between 1920 and 1937, which, as a proportion of the then Palestine population, was enormous.


.....in your view are unarmed immigrants to be considered invaders? (this is a question of principle)

I was wondering when you were going to come that question....Well, it would all depend on why they were immigrating to my land....You will know that the US congress restricted immigration from 1920 and even went so far as to prevented Jews escaping Hitler from even landing in the USA (The St Louis)....You will know also that at the 1937 Evian Conference, Britain, Australia and Canada also declined to accept Jewish refugees....I think that was morally unacceptable.....However, these immigrants had no intention to create a homeland in the USA, Britain etc.....If I knew, beyond doubt that that was their intention, then I imagine even you would have object to the immigration, particularly if it was in numbers calculated to swamp the indigenous inhabitants......Have I answered your question of principle?......Do you have different principles?


.....since i get the feeling you don't agree, i'm waiting to hear you defend, FGM, honor killings, multi tiered citizenship as lawful, selling land to people of other religions equals the death penalty, marriage to underage kids, etc.

I am sorry to disappoint you, but we seem to be in agreement on this one...I am disgusted with FGM, honor killings, multi tiered citizenship as lawful, selling land to people of other religions equals the death penalty, marriage to underage kids, etc.......And yes, I do think I am more open-minded than you.


.....the creation of a western socialistic country required zionist domination, i would have been pretty stupid to come to Palestine to live as second class citizens.

Thank you for that admission.....I, Hamas, and most other people would be prepared to fight to the death to resist Zionist domination of our cultures

Now we have identified exactly where we disagree.....I seek to dominate no-one....You, on the other hand feel perfectly justified in dominating another culture simply because you judge it not to have western socialist values.........Even you should be able to see which policy is the more likely to lead to violence and war.


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