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shira Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-11 03:56 AM
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6. This article is ridiculous...
Edited on Mon Apr-04-11 04:56 AM by shira
America has its Glenn Becks and Michael Savages too.

The difference is that Beck and Savage are not mouthpieces for the government and they are roundly criticized and minimized as bigots/racists throughout America's media and free press. Same as Israel.

In Gaza and the WB, their extremist counterparts clearly represent government policy - there is no freedom of press to criticize such monsters - and mass murderers who act upon such incitement (imagine Beck and Savage now as a militant David Duke) are rewarded and celebrated as martyrs and heroes, and have sports stadiums, schools, and streets named after them.

Let's not pretend there's any moral equivalency going on here...
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  -A congressional double standard on incitement shaayecanaan  Apr-03-11 07:33 PM   #0 
  - Yes because ridiculous statements by crazy Rabis'  King_David   Apr-03-11 10:59 PM   #1 
  - you mean like the ones at Rishon Lezion? oh that's right  azurnoir   Apr-03-11 11:19 PM   #2 
  - How is that related though?  Shaktimaan   Apr-04-11 10:03 PM   #29 
  - You obviously didn't read the article...  shaayecanaan   Apr-04-11 12:35 AM   #4 
  - I think the argument is about *incitement* on both sides  LeftishBrit   Apr-04-11 03:27 AM   #5 
     - I quite agree...  shaayecanaan   Apr-04-11 04:53 AM   #7 
     - They were talking about PA sponsored incitement. In any case there is no equivilancy on  Dick Dastardly   Apr-04-11 09:46 PM   #28 
        - You need to read the article. There's some extremist rabbis who are state sponsored...  Violet_Crumble   Apr-05-11 03:00 AM   #30 
        - Of course not...  shaayecanaan   Apr-05-11 04:11 AM   #34 
     - Is it incitement to lie and exaggerate about Israel's actions...  shira   Apr-04-11 05:03 AM   #8 
        - No. Nor is it incitement to lie and exaggerate about Palestinian actions...  LeftishBrit   Apr-04-11 06:56 AM   #9 
           - How about the old blood libel vs. Jews? Incitement to act against Jews, or not? n/t  shira   Apr-04-11 03:39 PM   #24 
              - The literal blood libel, yes.  LeftishBrit   Apr-04-11 04:07 PM   #25 
                 - You don't consider the false accusation that Israel killed civilians as a matter of policy...  shira   Apr-04-11 04:14 PM   #26 
                    - You stated below that the Itamar murderer was carrying out the official policy  shaayecanaan   Apr-04-11 05:39 PM   #27 
                    - Check out PMW and you'll see that in Arabic, it's official PA policy...  shira   Apr-05-11 03:52 AM   #33 
                       - If eulogising terrorists means that terrorism is "official government policy"  shaayecanaan   Apr-05-11 04:26 AM   #35 
                          - Moral relativism  shira   Apr-05-11 04:36 AM   #36 
                             - Surely yr not going to try to deny that the King David Hotel bombing was terrorism?  Violet_Crumble   Apr-05-11 05:53 AM   #37 
                                - Deleted message  Name removed   Apr-05-11 10:13 AM   #40 
                                - Not terror....  shira   Apr-05-11 03:26 PM   #42 
                                   - So you admit that former Israeli PM Yitzhak Shamir was a terrorist?  shaayecanaan   Apr-05-11 07:00 PM   #45 
                                   - Definitely. n/t  shira   Apr-05-11 07:17 PM   #46 
                                   - Astounding...finally a straight answer to a straight question...  shaayecanaan   Apr-05-11 07:46 PM   #49 
                                      - Shamir alone? No...  shira   Apr-05-11 07:56 PM   #51 
                                         - So if all Lehi's top men/terrorists had their own postage stamps...  shaayecanaan   Apr-05-11 09:09 PM   #53 
                                            - pwned (nt)  shaayecanaan   Apr-05-11 11:57 PM   #55 
                                            - For the curious  Lithos   Apr-06-11 02:53 AM   #57 
                                            - Ridiculous.  shira   Apr-06-11 03:54 AM   #58 
                                            - So just to get this clear...  shaayecanaan   Apr-06-11 07:50 AM   #60 
                                            - What's ridiculous is you trying to equate Israel with Hamas/PLO...  shira   Apr-06-11 04:42 PM   #63 
                                            - So putting terrorists on postage stamps...  shaayecanaan   Apr-06-11 07:37 PM   #67 
                                   - So was former Palestinian President Yasser Arafat  oberliner   Apr-05-11 07:22 PM   #47 
                                      - So was Menachem Begin  shaayecanaan   Apr-05-11 07:52 PM   #50 
                                         - Good thing no one here supports that kind of thing today  oberliner   Apr-05-11 08:31 PM   #52 
                                            - I'm not often accused of being an apologist for the 1940s Jewish underground...  shaayecanaan   Apr-05-11 09:45 PM   #54 
                                               - 2011 Palestinian nationalist crowd  oberliner   Apr-06-11 08:03 AM   #61 
                                               - You've got the wrong man, pup...  shaayecanaan   Apr-06-11 08:52 AM   #62 
                                               - Not appreciating the "pup" reference  oberliner   Apr-06-11 04:46 PM   #65 
                                               - Then you have my apologies  shaayecanaan   Apr-06-11 07:39 PM   #68 
                                   - Is that yr own personal definition of terrorism? It's flawed...  Violet_Crumble   Apr-06-11 04:56 AM   #59 
                                      - Yeah it is...  shira   Apr-06-11 04:54 PM   #66 
                    - No. Unless you're going to use the term for almost anything that is said about any side in a war  LeftishBrit   Apr-05-11 03:07 AM   #32 
                       - Well said. I totally agree...  Violet_Crumble   Apr-05-11 05:57 AM   #38 
                       - Of course I disagree...  shira   Apr-05-11 03:47 PM   #43 
                          - I am leaving this as is  Lithos   Apr-05-11 04:34 PM   #44 
  - I would say that making the assassin of a UN represenative Prom Minister  azurnoir   Apr-03-11 11:27 PM   #3 
  - No, once again (see my reply to Shira). The term 'incitement' in my view should be restricted to  LeftishBrit   Apr-04-11 07:01 AM   #10 
  - I was using 'standards' similar to the ones used by the Senators in their letter  azurnoir   Apr-04-11 10:39 AM   #11 
  - Prom Minister?  oberliner   Apr-04-11 11:22 AM   #13 
     - yep sure enough that's what I meant  azurnoir   Apr-04-11 11:35 AM   #14 
        - A sense of humor is a terrible thing to waste  oberliner   Apr-04-11 12:07 PM   #17 
  - This article is ridiculous...  shira   Apr-04-11 03:56 AM   #6 
  - MIDDLE EAST: A Sabbath of Terror  oberliner   Apr-04-11 11:04 AM   #12 
  - What does Goldstone know now? - Abdul-Hakim Salah  azurnoir   Apr-04-11 12:02 PM   #15 
  - Do you find this hilarious in a cynical way?  oberliner   Apr-04-11 12:06 PM   #16 
     - I find it neither amusing nor surprising n/t  azurnoir   Apr-04-11 01:34 PM   #18 
        - And yet the reverse you find hysterical  oberliner   Apr-04-11 01:37 PM   #19 
           - Did I say hysterical ? your skill in word change to suit needs is admirable  azurnoir   Apr-04-11 01:39 PM   #20 
              - Hilarious but not hysterical?  oberliner   Apr-04-11 01:57 PM   #21 
                 - well hysterical would denote something that could  azurnoir   Apr-04-11 02:07 PM   #22 
                    - Seriously, I have no idea what you are talking about  oberliner   Apr-04-11 02:38 PM   #23 
  - The US Congress having double standards on the I/P issue? That's no shocker...  Violet_Crumble   Apr-05-11 03:02 AM   #31 
     - The US Congress does not have double standards on the I/P issue  oberliner   Apr-05-11 09:32 AM   #39 
        - I actually had four reactions to this post in the course of about ten seconds...  shaayecanaan   Apr-05-11 10:21 AM   #41 
           - Not at all surprising  oberliner   Apr-05-11 07:23 PM   #48 
              - What's not at all surprising?n/t  Violet_Crumble   Apr-06-11 12:04 AM   #56 
                 - That there were four reactions to the post in ten seconds  oberliner   Apr-06-11 04:46 PM   #64 
 

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