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Thu Jun-10-10 04:47 PM
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| 19. I love spiritual people... |
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But religious people scare the hell out of me.
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| -Dear Helen Thomas, we Jews aren't getting the hell out of anywhere anymore |
Fozzledick |
Jun-10-10 04:31 PM |
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This author confuses Jews with the nation of Israel |
Oregone |
Jun-10-10 04:34 PM |
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Many at DU make that same error in distinction... |
JuniperLea |
Jun-10-10 04:39 PM |
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LOL |
Oregone |
Jun-10-10 04:40 PM |
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LOL |
EFerrari |
Jun-10-10 04:42 PM |
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I blame Constantine |
Fozzledick |
Jun-10-10 04:45 PM |
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I love spiritual people... |
JuniperLea |
Jun-10-10 04:47 PM |
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I blame Paul...he was the one who brought all the weird sexual uptightness into it. |
Ken Burch |
Jun-17-10 05:56 AM |
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Who was Helen Thomas addressing? |
Fozzledick |
Jun-10-10 04:40 PM |
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She was specifically talking about the people who are occupying Palestine |
Oregone |
Jun-10-10 04:43 PM |
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There's that confusion again! |
JuniperLea |
Jun-10-10 04:46 PM |
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Prior to 1948 |
FBI_Un_Sub |
Jun-10-10 09:50 PM |
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Who Gave Sykes And Picot The Right To Determine Which People Belong To Which Land? |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Jun-11-10 05:24 AM |
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Allenby and Foch NT |
Recursion |
Jun-11-10 07:44 AM |
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And just who are the non-Arabs living in Palestine? |
azurnoir |
Jun-10-10 05:50 PM |
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Right now? And what do you mean by "Palestine"? |
Recursion |
Jun-11-10 07:45 AM |
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well actually there are about 225,000 in the West Bank |
azurnoir |
Jun-11-10 11:47 AM |
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Well, in fairness Hamas thinks that too |
Recursion |
Jun-11-10 12:09 PM |
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There should 2 countries IMO n/t |
azurnoir |
Jun-11-10 01:06 PM |
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I would have liked that. But the Israelis and Palestinians seem not to |
Recursion |
Jun-11-10 01:45 PM |
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I agree with you that the time for a two-state solution has passed. |
Raksha |
Jun-11-10 07:40 PM |
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here's the exchange |
CTLawGuy |
Jun-17-10 05:50 AM |
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unfortunately unrec does not work here . . . . so UNREC |
DrDan |
Jun-10-10 04:35 PM |
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Thanks for the kick! |
Fozzledick |
Jun-10-10 04:37 PM |
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we can blame teh Jews for Facebook |
davidinalameda |
Jun-10-10 04:39 PM |
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But you can't blame them for the Gaza siege |
Oregone |
Jun-10-10 04:40 PM |
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Actually, if it weren't for the Romans, there would never have been a "Palestine" |
Fozzledick |
Jun-10-10 05:30 PM |
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I'm sure that some parents blame Trojans |
davidinalameda |
Jun-11-10 09:22 AM |
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"the condemns"? |
Ken Burch |
Jun-17-10 06:03 AM |
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Whoppers on wheels. |
EFerrari |
Jun-10-10 04:41 PM |
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He Conflated Jews With Israelis |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Jun-10-10 04:44 PM |
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Which leaves me confused.... |
Oregone |
Jun-10-10 04:47 PM |
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I have Christian cousins living in Israel... |
JuniperLea |
Jun-10-10 04:49 PM |
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I Think Both Sides Have Legitimate Grievances And Compelling Narratives |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Jun-10-10 04:49 PM |
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Oh yes, definitely |
Oregone |
Jun-10-10 04:56 PM |
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It's because the psychopaths are currently in charge, |
Raksha |
Jun-11-10 01:42 PM |
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And that is a proud achievement. |
Ken Burch |
Jun-17-10 06:05 AM |
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Don't See The Efficacy Of Suggesting Second And Third Generation Israelis To Move Back To Europe |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Jun-10-10 04:42 PM |
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Agreed... and I feel the same about Palestine... |
JuniperLea |
Jun-10-10 04:44 PM |
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There Needs To Be Some Accommodation On Both Sides |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Jun-10-10 04:47 PM |
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I totally agree... and Helen was wrong... very, very off base... |
JuniperLea |
Jun-10-10 04:52 PM |
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I have read on DU that |
CTLawGuy |
Jun-17-10 05:58 AM |
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so if a thief stays in someone else's house long enough, they get to keep it. |
provis99 |
Jun-10-10 05:39 PM |
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See Twenty Nine |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Jun-11-10 05:16 AM |
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It isn't going to happen. |
lumpy |
Jun-14-10 02:49 PM |
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"How far back do you go to right an alleged wrong?" |
Ken Burch |
Jun-17-10 06:10 AM |
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well usually a thief is arrested and put in jail |
CTLawGuy |
Jun-17-10 05:59 AM |
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Agree - and two further points: |
LeftishBrit |
Jun-10-10 05:47 PM |
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Yes, but at least for a while there was a "pipeline" |
Recursion |
Jun-11-10 07:56 AM |
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These are true points. |
Ken Burch |
Jun-17-10 06:14 AM |
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Yeah, it may not be the soundest suggestion |
Oregone |
Jun-10-10 04:45 PM |
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Do you see the efficacy of them living in Palestine rather than Israel? |
azurnoir |
Jun-10-10 05:52 PM |
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A lot of Israelis are American. |
DRex |
Jun-11-10 06:44 PM |
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"The more you defend yourselves, the more we hate you" |
shira |
Jun-10-10 05:37 PM |
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"That animal is evil, if you attack it it will defend itself" |
Fozzledick |
Jun-10-10 05:42 PM |
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Haters gonna keep hating |
shira |
Jun-10-10 05:48 PM |
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yes I do hate false spin and bandwagon deception |
azurnoir |
Jun-10-10 05:56 PM |
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If you hated false spin, you wouldn't portray Helen's remarks as anti-Israel |
shira |
Jun-10-10 06:32 PM |
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there are still death camps in Poland and Russia? |
azurnoir |
Jun-10-10 06:44 PM |
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Pathetic. Helen expected Jews to go to Poland and Russia post 1945? Are you kidding? |
shira |
Jun-10-10 06:57 PM |
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According to your post #38 that is exactly what you claim she is saying |
azurnoir |
Jun-10-10 07:49 PM |
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Poland And Russia Are Still Rife With Anti-Semitism |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Jun-11-10 05:21 AM |
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Helen told Jews to go back to Poland and Germany....as if they could in 1945-48 |
shira |
Jun-11-10 05:22 AM |
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But there are not death camps and why if the present Polish governt |
azurnoir |
Jun-11-10 01:02 PM |
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Here |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Jun-11-10 02:29 PM |
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But as I pointed out she was in accurate on the point of Poland because Russia would have been more |
azurnoir |
Jun-11-10 04:32 PM |
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It's also possible that "Poland" came to mind for her |
Ken Burch |
Jun-17-10 06:27 AM |
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Yes dear we all know the Jewish settlers have no |
azurnoir |
Jun-10-10 05:54 PM |
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I just hope they don't get too literal with this bullshit... |
JuniperLea |
Jun-10-10 06:22 PM |
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A modest proposal: go back to the borders of 67 |
Fozzledick |
Jun-10-10 06:27 PM |
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Doesn't that fly in the face of God? |
JuniperLea |
Jun-10-10 06:30 PM |
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Do you really want to drag the Assyrians into this too? |
Fozzledick |
Jun-10-10 06:53 PM |
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I am Inanna... |
JuniperLea |
Jun-10-10 07:07 PM |
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Free Enkidu! |
Fozzledick |
Jun-10-10 07:19 PM |
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Show me the maggot! |
JuniperLea |
Jun-10-10 07:21 PM |
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there has already been way too much "literal" about this n/t |
azurnoir |
Jun-10-10 06:38 PM |
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Exactly... that's why I wonder about the cherry picking... eom |
JuniperLea |
Jun-10-10 07:08 PM |
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I'll keep saying it... |
proteus_lives |
Jun-10-10 07:54 PM |
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Who is washing her feet for fuck's sake? |
JuniperLea |
Jun-10-10 07:58 PM |
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I'll keep saying it... |
proteus_lives |
Jun-10-10 08:00 PM |
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I'm supporting her long and wonderful career... |
JuniperLea |
Jun-11-10 11:53 AM |
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so you'd feel exactly the same way if she told blacks to go back to Africa? |
shira |
Jun-11-10 11:58 AM |
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Yes... |
JuniperLea |
Jun-11-10 12:11 PM |
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Oh, I get it. Helen prefers that Jews should've gone back to Germany, Poland, and Russia after WW2 |
shira |
Jun-11-10 12:19 PM |
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Don't you have another tune? |
JuniperLea |
Jun-11-10 12:22 PM |
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It's not about an 89 year old woman. This shit is tolerated far too much... |
shira |
Jun-11-10 12:32 PM |
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From what I can see, there's always an excuse to inflate and scream... |
JuniperLea |
Jun-11-10 01:33 PM |
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Give it up. Shira's testifying, you're lying, and that's the end of it. |
Jim Sagle |
Jun-11-10 01:02 PM |
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I don't give up when fighting against bigotry like this... |
JuniperLea |
Jun-11-10 01:35 PM |
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I assume you're looking in a mirror as you type that. |
Jim Sagle |
Jun-11-10 02:00 PM |
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Jun-11-10 06:21 AM |
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Wow-I Hope The Mods Don't Delete Your Post Or Mine!!! |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Jun-11-10 06:41 AM |
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Jun-11-10 06:51 AM |
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You Suggested That Nations Were Justified In Forcibly Evicting Jews From Their Lands |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Jun-11-10 06:55 AM |
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Jun-11-10 07:06 AM |
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You Have The Right To Any Opinion You Want |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Jun-11-10 08:53 AM |
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You're just flame baiting now. I ONLY suggest that ANYONE consistently expelled from ANYWHERE - |
Wizard777 |
Jun-11-10 09:48 AM |
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How Am I Flamebaiting? |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Jun-11-10 10:03 AM |
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Jun-11-10 10:32 AM |
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A Few Points |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Jun-11-10 12:44 PM |
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I'll have to answer your question with a question. |
Wizard777 |
Jun-11-10 01:27 PM |
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Here |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Jun-11-10 01:40 PM |
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Exactly. But the OP also does that. It addresses the individuals as a whole. |
Wizard777 |
Jun-11-10 02:01 PM |
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I Disagreed With Much Of The OP. It Inflames Rather Than Enlighten |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Jun-11-10 02:08 PM |
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So do I on both. |
Wizard777 |
Jun-11-10 02:11 PM |
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So it does, but that's something wrong with the article, not something wrong with the Jews |
LeftishBrit |
Jun-11-10 02:19 PM |
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Jun-11-10 02:32 PM |
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Sorry but that's just disgusting |
LeftishBrit |
Jun-11-10 02:37 PM |
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But it goes against many customs. They were a stateless people. |
Wizard777 |
Jun-11-10 02:53 PM |
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The implication of your post... |
LeftishBrit |
Jun-11-10 03:04 PM |
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It depend entirely upon the law of the land. But it is a Sovereign right. |
Wizard777 |
Jun-11-10 03:15 PM |
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I feel just the same way about those in Israel who would like to deport Arab citizens |
LeftishBrit |
Jun-11-10 04:22 PM |
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Once there is an equitable agreement upon what is Israel and what is Palestine. |
Wizard777 |
Jun-11-10 04:47 PM |
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"I don't consider expulsion or deportation to be abusive," |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Jun-11-10 03:18 PM |
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Ethnic cleansing is just a nicer way of saying genocide. Not deportation. |
Wizard777 |
Jun-11-10 03:29 PM |
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Deep scholarly debate? |
LTX |
Jun-11-10 04:02 PM |
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I never said they were. |
Wizard777 |
Jun-11-10 04:48 PM |
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you're a disgusting bigot. your comments are worthy of stormfront |
cali |
Jun-12-10 03:08 AM |
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After reading your screed here on the "blacks and Jews" |
SemiCharmedQuark |
Jun-11-10 01:56 PM |
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I'm glad she was confirmed and I was highly impressed with her first decision. |
Wizard777 |
Jun-11-10 02:06 PM |
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ignore... |
JuniperLea |
Jun-11-10 03:00 PM |
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Holy hell |
Dorian Gray |
Jun-11-10 03:58 PM |
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I just saw this post, and you sir, are the very essence of ignorance and filth |
LTX |
Jun-11-10 04:50 PM |
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Sorry To Hear That |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Jun-13-10 07:10 AM |
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Well said! |
ColesCountyDem |
Jun-17-10 03:44 PM |
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hmm do you think it might have been |
CTLawGuy |
Jun-17-10 06:07 AM |
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No |
LeftishBrit |
Jun-11-10 02:14 PM |
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In That Vein |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Jun-11-10 02:39 PM |
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Being expelled from a country is a sovereignty issue. It's not all about racism or blaming victims |
Wizard777 |
Jun-11-10 03:06 PM |
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I wish posts like those |
Dorian Gray |
Jun-11-10 03:55 PM |
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Agreed. |
Codeine |
Jun-12-10 10:50 AM |
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How on earth did that not result in a granite pizza? |
Codeine |
Jun-12-10 10:46 AM |
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Christ...that line was almost a direct lift from the end of "A Star Called Henry" by Roddy Doyle |
Ken Burch |
Jun-17-10 06:50 AM |
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I would not conflate Jewish people with the State of Israel's policies |
Douglas Carpenter |
Jun-11-10 07:33 AM |
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I refer to them as "Jews" for historical accuracy. At the time of these events Israel did not exist. |
Wizard777 |
Jun-11-10 07:44 AM |
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I think the problem is the OP Involves the Jewish struggle. That's theology not Israeli politics. |
Wizard777 |
Jun-11-10 08:17 AM |
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Great post! |
LeftishBrit |
Jun-11-10 02:50 PM |
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Uh-oh: |
LTX |
Jun-11-10 09:38 AM |
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They are NOT Synonymous. I know plenty of Jews that are not Israeli's. |
Wizard777 |
Jun-11-10 11:28 AM |
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I have Christian cousins living in Israel... |
JuniperLea |
Jun-11-10 12:16 PM |
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Exactly! There are even Muslim Arabs that live there. |
Wizard777 |
Jun-11-10 12:43 PM |
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I Have Spoke To Many Israeli And American Jews |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Jun-11-10 01:09 PM |
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Yes there is good in all people and cultures. I don't dispute that one bit. |
Wizard777 |
Jun-11-10 01:35 PM |
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I hear similar stories... on the flip side... |
JuniperLea |
Jun-11-10 01:28 PM |
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That's exactly why I say the Racism is institutionalized. It was like that here in America. |
Wizard777 |
Jun-11-10 01:42 PM |
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Jun-11-10 01:54 PM |
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What's that? I also debate at Baltimore Sun. I'm pretty much Wizard777 where ever I go. |
Wizard777 |
Jun-11-10 02:09 PM |
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I think you'd like her entire family... |
JuniperLea |
Jun-11-10 02:42 PM |
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No doubt. They sound like a great and very interesting bunch. |
Wizard777 |
Jun-11-10 03:28 PM |
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"The truth is rarely popular." |
JuniperLea |
Jun-11-10 03:36 PM |
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Good for you! I found Him in my heart and mind. Now I look for Him in Physics. |
Wizard777 |
Jun-11-10 03:42 PM |
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I have always embraced the idea that science... |
JuniperLea |
Jun-11-10 03:48 PM |
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Out of curiosity: |
LTX |
Jun-11-10 12:58 PM |
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Yes I have posed that to them. I also called one to tell him of addition about them getting gassed. |
Wizard777 |
Jun-11-10 01:55 PM |
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Jun-11-10 01:57 PM |
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That... |
LeftishBrit |
Jun-11-10 02:06 PM |
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That because he has really obnoxious friends. n/t |
OllieLotte |
Jun-11-10 02:31 PM |
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Oh yeah a couple of them of them without a doubt. That's where my endless patience comes in handy. |
Wizard777 |
Jun-11-10 03:31 PM |
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The OP is Historically inaccurate. At the beginning of recorded History they lived in Canaan. |
Wizard777 |
Jun-11-10 09:53 AM |
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Here's what I don't understand... |
Fokker Trip |
Jun-11-10 12:43 PM |
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Israel's waiting for a peace partner like Egypt or Jordan. If not, then they're determined to live |
shira |
Jun-11-10 12:52 PM |
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Mass emigration of Palestinians to Jordan and Egypt |
Recursion |
Jun-11-10 01:51 PM |
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I Really Think Reasonable Folks Can Find A Solution Especially If There's Money To Lubricate It. |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Jun-11-10 01:56 PM |
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Israel wants Jordan and Egypt to take responsibility for the Palestinians |
Recursion |
Jun-11-10 02:50 PM |
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That Was The Old Rogers Plan.We Are Well Past That. |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Jun-11-10 03:05 PM |
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Rabbi who filmed Helen Thomas told to 'go back in the oven' |
Fozzledick |
Jun-11-10 03:58 PM |
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But he wasn't told that by Helen Thomas. |
Wizard777 |
Jun-11-10 05:02 PM |
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What difference does it make? |
howard112211 |
Jun-13-10 05:50 AM |
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I think he's finally gone... |
Fozzledick |
Jun-13-10 09:58 AM |
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This is exactly why I support the South African transition model- not the two state solution |
depakid |
Jun-12-10 12:40 AM |
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Some have argued here that what you are advocating is the "destruction of Israel". |
howard112211 |
Jun-13-10 05:47 AM |
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Where's The Model For This State? |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Jun-13-10 07:21 AM |
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As for the middle east, not sure, but |
howard112211 |
Jun-13-10 08:10 AM |
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This would be about creating a NEW model |
Ken Burch |
Jun-17-10 06:02 AM |
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Poor things. |
dyingnumbers |
Jun-13-10 12:33 AM |
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I love it how Israel supporters use some crap that happened 2000 years ago |
howard112211 |
Jun-13-10 05:45 AM |
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What Happened 2000 Years Ago Beside The Crucifixion And Resurrection Of Christ? |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Jun-13-10 07:13 AM |
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Romans occupying Israel. |
howard112211 |
Jun-13-10 07:15 AM |
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You mean Jews being told to "get the hell out" of their original homeland in Judea? |
Fozzledick |
Jun-13-10 10:07 AM |
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Telling people to get out of a country they were born in is offensive. |
howard112211 |
Jun-13-10 10:13 AM |
#165 |
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this apparent acceptance of anti-semitism is a real stain on the left |
CTLawGuy |
Jun-17-10 05:42 AM |
#167 |
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