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Sun Jun-06-10 09:22 PM
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| 37. Bizzarre to read posts defending hate speech on a liberal board. |
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Some seem unable to separate their legitimate political support for Palestinians from the general principle that hate speech and bigotry of anyone do not deserve defense.
Reminds me of when I hear defense of nuclear proliferation on this board, too.
Never thought I'd see the day when anyone left of center would think it's cool to tell Jews to go back to the countries that tried to exterminate them, and nearly did.
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| - Helen Thomas Dropped By Speaking Agency, Under Fire For Remarks On Middle East |
The Northerner |
Jun-06-10 07:48 PM |
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I saw the tape and found her remarks despicable |
bluestateguy |
Jun-06-10 07:55 PM |
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she committed no violent act but she got it wrong |
yava |
Jun-06-10 08:07 PM |
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notice what *everyone* else in corporate media is forced to say now... |
subsuelo |
Jun-06-10 09:49 PM |
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I saw the tape and find no fault with expressing frustration over occupiers |
uppityperson |
Jun-06-10 08:45 PM |
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thank you for this |
annm4peace |
Jun-06-10 10:34 PM |
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Thank you again |
azurnoir |
Jun-07-10 06:17 AM |
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Jun-07-10 08:10 AM |
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Oh good. Its been awhile since we've had a "Jews control the world" post |
SemiCharmedQuark |
Jun-07-10 09:18 AM |
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Well, THAT was a wild leap from what I posted. Maybe you meant to reply to someone else |
uppityperson |
Jun-07-10 08:00 PM |
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Is that really all she said?? |
PerpetuallyDazed |
Jun-07-10 10:33 AM |
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Once again, this is really too bad. She apologized and has been a great questioner of |
uppityperson |
Jun-06-10 07:58 PM |
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no its not |
iandhr |
Jun-06-10 08:03 PM |
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Jun-06-10 08:06 PM |
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here is more. |
uppityperson |
Jun-06-10 08:08 PM |
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It is wrong to tell occupiers to leave? |
uppityperson |
Jun-06-10 08:10 PM |
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Thanks for posting her words for better context.... |
Deuce |
Jun-06-10 08:38 PM |
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You are welcome, taking things out of context is deceptive, I like to see/hear more. |
uppityperson |
Jun-06-10 08:43 PM |
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What better context. |
iandhr |
Jun-06-10 08:48 PM |
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Well, it's a case of robbing Peter to pay Paul |
Chulanowa |
Jun-06-10 08:57 PM |
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One dimension needs to be added to this line of thinking. |
AtheistCrusader |
Jun-06-10 11:39 PM |
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And that means exactly what? |
Chulanowa |
Jun-07-10 02:52 AM |
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I did not convey that well. |
AtheistCrusader |
Jun-07-10 12:39 PM |
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the "better context" of talking to occupiers. Should the usa stay in Iraq? |
uppityperson |
Jun-06-10 09:06 PM |
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The comment in its context certainly sheds light on this non-event. |
PSPS |
Jun-06-10 08:46 PM |
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Israel is not an occupier. It was established by a UN mandate in 1948. |
totodeinhere |
Jun-06-10 09:12 PM |
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I also believe Kurdistan should be its own country again |
uppityperson |
Jun-06-10 09:25 PM |
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re: present far right government |
iandhr |
Jun-06-10 09:34 PM |
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Israel is an occupier, actually |
Chulanowa |
Jun-07-10 02:53 AM |
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Tell that to the people forced off their lands and out of their homes |
Tailormyst |
Jun-07-10 09:23 AM |
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the fact is the Jews ARE home in Palestine - ever heard of the diaspora? |
wordpix |
Jun-06-10 10:13 PM |
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Ah yes, the bible |
Chulanowa |
Jun-06-10 11:20 PM |
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+1 |
uppityperson |
Jun-07-10 01:53 AM |
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So if the Native Americans wanted their land back they could just |
eagertolearn |
Jun-06-10 11:39 PM |
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The Palestineans were NOT pushed out of their country... |
Techn0Girl |
Jun-07-10 12:13 AM |
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Ask The Arabs How They Felt About The "Mutual Agreement" |
wellst0nev0ter |
Jun-07-10 12:50 AM |
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re: Ask The Arabs How They Felt About The "Mutual Agreement" |
Techn0Girl |
Jun-07-10 01:09 AM |
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One set of occupiers gives it to another set and that is ok? Huh. |
uppityperson |
Jun-07-10 02:36 AM |
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Jun-07-10 02:14 AM |
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"I am sick and tired of people blaming the entire Mideast mess on the Jews and Israel."??? |
uppityperson |
Jun-07-10 01:53 AM |
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I'd be willing to bet that the "Mexicans" |
Plucketeer |
Jun-06-10 08:23 PM |
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Its one thing for Hispanics to come to the US |
yava |
Jun-06-10 08:55 PM |
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Are Hispanic people forcing us into poverty? |
dencol |
Jun-07-10 12:28 AM |
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A living president glibly yammers about how he tortured, and nothing happens |
Plucketeer |
Jun-06-10 08:17 PM |
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I will stand with Helen. Nt |
xchrom |
Jun-06-10 08:28 PM |
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I stand with Helen, too. nt |
HelenWheels |
Jun-06-10 08:31 PM |
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Me, too. |
Peregrine Took |
Jun-06-10 08:37 PM |
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I will, too. |
mbperrin |
Jun-06-10 09:01 PM |
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Not me |
Yupster |
Jun-06-10 08:45 PM |
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THANK YOU |
iandhr |
Jun-06-10 09:02 PM |
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That pain did not give them a free pass to land on |
xchrom |
Jun-06-10 09:40 PM |
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+1 how quickly people forget the 6 million dead, many from Poland & E. Europe |
wordpix |
Jun-06-10 10:19 PM |
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Palestinian propaganda... |
iandhr |
Jun-06-10 09:16 PM |
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What is anti-semitic? |
yava |
Jun-06-10 09:36 PM |
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How DARE The Arabs Reject A Patently Unfair Offer |
wellst0nev0ter |
Jun-07-10 01:01 AM |
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I stand with Helen, also...She's been a questioner...she's tired of Gibbs pandering |
KoKo |
Jun-06-10 09:33 PM |
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Same here n/t |
OhioChick |
Jun-06-10 09:39 PM |
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Me also. |
webDude |
Jun-06-10 10:35 PM |
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Helens outburst should be a lesson to us all |
WileEcoyote |
Jun-06-10 08:31 PM |
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Deleted. |
Peregrine Took |
Jun-06-10 08:36 PM |
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Some people are judged by the statements they make. |
City Lights |
Jun-06-10 09:07 PM |
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She is an excellent word smith IMO |
goclark |
Jun-06-10 09:09 PM |
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what was the sad part? |
subsuelo |
Jun-06-10 09:18 PM |
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That she made statements essentially aligning herself with Hamas |
WileEcoyote |
Jun-07-10 03:12 AM |
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oh ok, thanks. Yup she's clearly a terrorist. n/t |
subsuelo |
Jun-07-10 08:04 AM |
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So Granny fell off her Rocker |
Interloper |
Jun-06-10 08:35 PM |
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Cowards. Running away from criticism because of fear. Yet, |
sabrina 1 |
Jun-06-10 08:45 PM |
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And Glen Beck calls for murder of public officials and gets to call it a joke |
Chulanowa |
Jun-06-10 08:49 PM |
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Indeed. |
City Lights |
Jun-06-10 09:08 PM |
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Wait a minute .... |
humbled_opinion |
Jun-06-10 08:51 PM |
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She has earned the ridicule and exclusion from the speaking agency. |
jefferson_dem |
Jun-06-10 09:12 PM |
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That's your prejudiced. Anti-Palestinian and dare I say racist opinion. Nt |
xchrom |
Jun-06-10 09:47 PM |
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You have the right to say what you please.... |
Techn0Girl |
Jun-06-10 10:03 PM |
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+1 the fact that none of the Arab nations are offering anything to the Palestinians except maybe |
wordpix |
Jun-06-10 10:23 PM |
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Like what, for example? |
Chulanowa |
Jun-06-10 11:26 PM |
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as the expert, why don't you figure it out? |
wordpix |
Jun-06-10 11:37 PM |
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I'm not hte one claiming that other Arab nations owe Palestinians anything |
Chulanowa |
Jun-07-10 02:03 AM |
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Hey - Here's a clue.... |
Techn0Girl |
Jun-07-10 12:03 AM |
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Well, why should the Arabs give them land? |
Chulanowa |
Jun-07-10 02:01 AM |
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because they're Arab and most have roots in those Arab states? |
wordpix |
Jun-07-10 10:22 AM |
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Exactly. |
Starbucks Anarchist |
Jun-06-10 10:44 PM |
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Trust me, it isn't about that at all. |
spoony |
Jun-06-10 10:20 PM |
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My racist opinion? |
jefferson_dem |
Jun-07-10 05:52 AM |
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Bizzarre to read posts defending hate speech on a liberal board. |
Psephos |
Jun-06-10 09:22 PM |
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It is also "bizarre" to hear so much outcry over partially quoted interchange |
uppityperson |
Jun-06-10 09:27 PM |
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That's just a partial transcript of the exchange |
marshall |
Jun-06-10 10:08 PM |
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link or transcript please? I'd be happy to read more. |
uppityperson |
Jun-07-10 02:38 AM |
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It's not hard to find |
marshall |
Jun-07-10 06:59 AM |
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Thank you for a link but I see no more there than what I transcribed |
uppityperson |
Jun-07-10 08:04 PM |
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Note that the interviewer directs Ms. Thomas to Jews as opposed to Israel |
marshall |
Jun-07-10 09:08 PM |
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She answers when he says "where should they go", then he interjects |
uppityperson |
Jun-08-10 12:10 AM |
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There are indigenous people looking down the |
xchrom |
Jun-06-10 09:52 PM |
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If you are saying I'm bigoted against bigots, then...I will have to agree. n/t |
Psephos |
Jun-06-10 10:07 PM |
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Except that legitimate political support for the Palestinians... |
Chulanowa |
Jun-06-10 10:36 PM |
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Had a Republican said this, the reaction would be far different. |
Starbucks Anarchist |
Jun-06-10 10:39 PM |
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Jewish citizens of Israel should have the right to return to their original homelands. |
David__77 |
Jun-06-10 10:56 PM |
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if they want to but why would they if they've made a good life in Israel? |
wordpix |
Jun-06-10 11:40 PM |
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I do not believe is compulsory transfer of Jews or non-Jews. |
David__77 |
Jun-06-10 11:56 PM |
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Excuse me while I have a WTF moment.... |
Techn0Girl |
Jun-07-10 12:08 AM |
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You clearly do not understand what I said. |
David__77 |
Jun-07-10 12:20 AM |
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So let me get this straight... |
Techn0Girl |
Jun-06-10 09:54 PM |
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Will the "anti-occupiers" here give up your homes & properties to Native Americans? |
wordpix |
Jun-06-10 10:30 PM |
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Hi there. I'm a Native American |
Chulanowa |
Jun-06-10 10:49 PM |
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don't put words in my mouth. What was done to native peoples in America |
wordpix |
Jun-06-10 11:10 PM |
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Yeah ... it;s great that you're claiming to be some part Native American .... |
Techn0Girl |
Jun-06-10 11:55 PM |
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Jun-07-10 01:56 AM |
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"In every single surrounding Moslim nation she has to hide her face and worse" What about Turkey? |
uppityperson |
Jun-07-10 02:42 AM |
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Yeah, you should get it straight |
Chulanowa |
Jun-06-10 10:43 PM |
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yes and California, Arizona & New Mexico were all once Mexico, so? |
wordpix |
Jun-06-10 10:51 PM |
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Well, you evidently really want to grasp at this straw |
Chulanowa |
Jun-07-10 01:11 AM |
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you evidently want to turn back the clock instead of coming up with solutions |
wordpix |
Jun-07-10 10:20 AM |
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I think you should get it straight because.... |
Techn0Girl |
Jun-06-10 11:45 PM |
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We're talking about Helen Thomas |
Chulanowa |
Jun-07-10 12:23 AM |
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You're the one who brought up all the occupier stuff.... |
Techn0Girl |
Jun-07-10 01:04 AM |
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Actually I didn't, but thanks for playing. |
Chulanowa |
Jun-07-10 01:18 AM |
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Actually you did.... |
Techn0Girl |
Jun-07-10 01:20 AM |
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Jun-07-10 01:57 AM |
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keep calling people names, Chulanowa: "confused, occupier, racist" |
wordpix |
Jun-07-10 10:14 AM |
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Many say all politics is local, but I think |
Yupster |
Jun-07-10 01:09 AM |
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From daily kos |
iandhr |
Jun-06-10 09:56 PM |
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I admire her sentiment ... |
and-justice-for-all |
Jun-06-10 10:34 PM |
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Hmmm...funny how free speech can cost you plenty if you decide to speak against the wrong people. |
NoodleyAppendage |
Jun-06-10 10:48 PM |
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hmmm, funny how telling victims of genocide to go back to where they were annihilated |
wordpix |
Jun-06-10 10:53 PM |
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Israel was created in 1947 from land that belonged to some other people at the time. |
NoodleyAppendage |
Jun-06-10 11:16 PM |
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you know, you cannot turn back history, you just have to try to make things better & |
wordpix |
Jun-06-10 11:39 PM |
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And the U.S. ws forcibly taken by the murder of millions of native Americans.... |
Techn0Girl |
Jun-06-10 11:58 PM |
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Re: Israel was created in 1947 from land that belonged to some other people at the time. |
Techn0Girl |
Jun-07-10 12:16 AM |
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Perhaps you are unaware that the British were placing European Jews |
mbperrin |
Jun-07-10 12:40 AM |
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Yeah, it belonged to Britain. |
proteus_lives |
Jun-07-10 12:58 AM |
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Strange, I Remember The Arabs Only Getting 43 Percent Of Mandatory Palestine |
wellst0nev0ter |
Jun-07-10 01:08 AM |
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Correction. |
proteus_lives |
Jun-07-10 01:26 AM |
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Well, if you want to get technical... |
Chulanowa |
Jun-07-10 02:20 AM |
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Does international law apply to the states that kept attacking Israel? |
proteus_lives |
Jun-07-10 02:23 AM |
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No, it's conquest |
Chulanowa |
Jun-07-10 02:32 AM |
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Same blah, blah. |
proteus_lives |
Jun-07-10 02:38 AM |
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I prefer to eat by myself |
Chulanowa |
Jun-07-10 03:02 AM |
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"Moving aside Chulanowa'a boilerplate insinuations of racism" |
proteus_lives |
Jun-07-10 03:17 AM |
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There is a lesson here. |
David__77 |
Jun-06-10 11:00 PM |
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This doesnt negate that she is an incredible journalist |
Dragonbreathp9d |
Jun-06-10 11:04 PM |
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not an anti-Semite??? |
tazme |
Jun-06-10 11:33 PM |
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She certainy was an incredible journalist.... |
Techn0Girl |
Jun-07-10 01:24 AM |
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She is capable of truth! Grab that woman and hold her up to the light. We need more like her! |
earcandle |
Jun-07-10 12:11 AM |
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The jews should have been |
deuce1 |
Jun-07-10 12:32 AM |
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The jews should have been taken home |
Techn0Girl |
Jun-07-10 01:17 AM |
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"taken home"? Where they were annihilated & blamed for all the ills in their nations? |
wordpix |
Jun-07-10 10:25 AM |
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"Israel is the cause of all the trouble in the ME" ---this is the Arab anti-Jewish meme |
wordpix |
Jun-07-10 10:31 AM |
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Good, I hope she never gets work again. |
proteus_lives |
Jun-07-10 12:50 AM |
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That is despicable. One of our greatest journalists once says something out of line in anger and |
saracat |
Jun-07-10 02:05 AM |
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Would you be saying the same thing if she was talking about arabs, black, asians, whites? |
proteus_lives |
Jun-07-10 02:07 AM |
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If the circumstances were the same, probably. But as the circumstances will never historically be |
saracat |
Jun-07-10 02:14 AM |
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In other words, no. |
proteus_lives |
Jun-07-10 02:18 AM |
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What I am saying is an entire history of valuable contributions should not be negated by one |
saracat |
Jun-07-10 11:26 AM |
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Jun-07-10 02:22 AM |
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You're adorable. |
proteus_lives |
Jun-07-10 02:26 AM |
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Jun-07-10 02:35 AM |
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Now you have some explaining to do. |
proteus_lives |
Jun-07-10 02:41 AM |
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How convenient. Shameful n/t |
Catherina |
Jun-07-10 12:58 AM |
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I support Helen. This story is a good distraction from the slaughter by the Israeli |
avaistheone1 |
Jun-07-10 01:17 AM |
#107 |
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Antisemitism should not be tolerated in the white house press corps. |
citizen snips |
Jun-07-10 02:17 AM |
#122 |
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