| 70. Does it matter? Liberals shouldn't cheer soldiers shooting civilians. |
| -Breaking: Hamas turns away humanitarian aid delivered today: |
ColesCountyDem |
Jun-02-10 02:06 PM |
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why would they turn away aid? |
wingnut40 |
Jun-02-10 02:07 PM |
#1 |
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Because its bad politics... |
brooklynite |
Jun-02-10 02:10 PM |
#4 |
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The aid is not from Israelis. |
thewiseguy |
Jun-02-10 02:14 PM |
#11 |
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because it's offered by their oppressors? |
mike_c |
Jun-02-10 02:14 PM |
#10 |
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So, it's OK to ignore the actual welfare of the people you allegedly represent? |
ColesCountyDem |
Jun-02-10 02:19 PM |
#13 |
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blame the victims, change the subject, full spin ahead.... |
mike_c |
Jun-02-10 02:23 PM |
#15 |
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Just calling a spade a spade, my friend. |
ColesCountyDem |
Jun-02-10 02:26 PM |
#18 |
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utter BS, spun from whole cloth.... |
mike_c |
Jun-02-10 02:33 PM |
#26 |
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I'm not treating you like an idiot, but you can't deny the facts of the matter. |
ColesCountyDem |
Jun-02-10 02:35 PM |
#28 |
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deny the "fact sof the matter?" |
mike_c |
Jun-02-10 02:41 PM |
#37 |
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A very salient fact, however. |
ColesCountyDem |
Jun-02-10 02:43 PM |
#38 |
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are you a child? |
mike_c |
Jun-02-10 02:53 PM |
#48 |
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I'm very much an adult, thank you. |
ColesCountyDem |
Jun-02-10 03:14 PM |
#61 |
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That's the Israeli fantasy. The big show of *generosity* that fools no one |
Catherina |
Jun-02-10 04:55 PM |
#137 |
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It shows that this never was about humanitarian relief pretty neatly. n/t |
ColesCountyDem |
Jun-02-10 05:07 PM |
#142 |
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It shows that Israel is trying to deflect attention away from their very bad act. |
breakaleg |
Jun-02-10 06:32 PM |
#189 |
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If you actually bothered to read even the snip posted Hamas gave their reason |
azurnoir |
Jun-02-10 05:38 PM |
#159 |
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Hamas kills plenty of civilians in Israel and Gaza |
Nuclear Unicorn |
Jun-02-10 02:38 PM |
#34 |
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yes, we all watched as Hamas attacked and kidnapped civilian relief workers... |
mike_c |
Jun-02-10 02:46 PM |
#41 |
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I saw them board a blockade runner. n/t |
ColesCountyDem |
Jun-02-10 02:47 PM |
#43 |
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do you automatically despise "blockade runners" or only those delivering relief to oppressed people? |
mike_c |
Jun-02-10 02:59 PM |
#57 |
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Nope, I don't despise them. |
ColesCountyDem |
Jun-02-10 03:16 PM |
#62 |
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well, to be clear, I APPLAUDE them for attempting to break this blockade... |
mike_c |
Jun-02-10 03:20 PM |
#67 |
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One question, then, if I may? |
ColesCountyDem |
Jun-02-10 03:22 PM |
#68 |
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that's a very good question.... |
mike_c |
Jun-02-10 03:38 PM |
#81 |
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Good answer. |
ColesCountyDem |
Jun-02-10 04:04 PM |
#89 |
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well, the answer that satisfies most of the world is that Egypt... |
mike_c |
Jun-02-10 04:15 PM |
#105 |
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Egypt is frankly delighted to let Israel deal with Hamas and Gaza both. |
ColesCountyDem |
Jun-02-10 04:34 PM |
#112 |
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so why all the disingenuous questions about the Egyptian blockade...? |
mike_c |
Jun-02-10 04:41 PM |
#118 |
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Only someone with a closed mind would call them 'disingenuous'. |
ColesCountyDem |
Jun-02-10 04:45 PM |
#123 |
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you've tried to obfuscate the truth and called it "gray...." |
mike_c |
Jun-02-10 05:08 PM |
#143 |
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No, I've tried to open minds to the fact that there are MANY truths here. |
ColesCountyDem |
Jun-02-10 05:38 PM |
#158 |
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No, you didn't. You posted an IDF fax as truth. |
EFerrari |
Jun-02-10 06:35 PM |
#190 |
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sometimes it's fun to play with them.... |
mike_c |
Jun-02-10 06:39 PM |
#192 |
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How anyone can post anything from the IDF or the Pentagon |
EFerrari |
Jun-02-10 06:41 PM |
#194 |
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A Arish is a deep water port |
FBI_Un_Sub |
Jun-02-10 07:56 PM |
#196 |
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You're looking at Hamas' history through a convenient soda straw |
Nuclear Unicorn |
Jun-02-10 03:23 PM |
#73 |
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in general I agree with you about the intractability of Hamas... |
mike_c |
Jun-02-10 03:51 PM |
#86 |
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Happens in Washington DC every day, dude. |
KonaKane |
Jun-02-10 04:10 PM |
#100 |
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I agree completely, but it's still a disservice to the people when it happens, is it not? |
ColesCountyDem |
Jun-02-10 04:50 PM |
#131 |
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because they want the humanitarians that were arrested all released. |
mod mom |
Jun-02-10 02:16 PM |
#12 |
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Ding ding--they can withhold what the Israelis want (a pass on the arrests) |
librechik |
Jun-02-10 02:47 PM |
#44 |
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It's called "solidarity." Pity so many DUers have no idea what that means. |
Ignis |
Jun-02-10 02:54 PM |
#49 |
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+1000 nt |
laughingliberal |
Jun-02-10 03:23 PM |
#72 |
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+10000000 |
KonaKane |
Jun-02-10 04:11 PM |
#101 |
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Do we know for a fact that this is even true? |
Crystal Clarity |
Jun-02-10 02:35 PM |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Jun-02-10 02:52 PM |
#47 |
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Sources were confirmed |
Crystal Clarity |
Jun-02-10 03:06 PM |
#59 |
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It's only half true. Hamas didn't want to take delivery until everyone was freed |
EFerrari |
Jun-02-10 06:38 PM |
#191 |
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Politics trumps humanatarian aid |
Freddie Stubbs |
Jun-02-10 02:43 PM |
#39 |
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Because the lot of them are assholes, on both sides. |
formercia |
Jun-02-10 02:54 PM |
#50 |
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The OP is an IDF press release. |
EFerrari |
Jun-02-10 04:06 PM |
#92 |
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Sometimes, I'm an asshole too. |
formercia |
Jun-02-10 05:17 PM |
#150 |
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FGS, it doesn't even require clicking the link to find it. |
laughingliberal |
Jun-02-10 03:22 PM |
#69 |
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Because they are waiting for the hostages to be released first. |
EFerrari |
Jun-02-10 04:05 PM |
#91 |
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Normal human pride. Palestinian pride is a huge problem for Israel |
Catherina |
Jun-02-10 04:53 PM |
#135 |
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I have heard that the actual demand from Hamas is that the people |
Vinnie From Indy |
Jun-02-10 02:08 PM |
#2 |
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Partially correct. |
ColesCountyDem |
Jun-02-10 02:13 PM |
#7 |
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Or so we are told. nt |
Crystal Clarity |
Jun-02-10 02:22 PM |
#14 |
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By the IDF. The IDF!!! nt/ |
Crystal Clarity |
Jun-02-10 02:25 PM |
#16 |
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Link? |
EFerrari |
Jun-02-10 04:07 PM |
#94 |
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Unless CNN edited it since the OP, it's in the OP. n/t |
ColesCountyDem |
Jun-02-10 04:35 PM |
#114 |
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Many of those folks have already been deported... |
brendan120678 |
Jun-02-10 02:13 PM |
#8 |
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Meanwhile, their people are hungry |
leftynyc |
Jun-02-10 02:30 PM |
#22 |
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I don't disagree. |
brendan120678 |
Jun-02-10 02:36 PM |
#31 |
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IOW: that is their version of a PR stunt |
Nuclear Unicorn |
Jun-02-10 02:40 PM |
#35 |
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And the people they profess to care about go hungry. n/t |
ColesCountyDem |
Jun-02-10 02:46 PM |
#42 |
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What a busy little person you are. |
EFerrari |
Jun-02-10 04:09 PM |
#98 |
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The side that's putting on a stunt would be Israel. |
Raineyb |
Jun-02-10 02:55 PM |
#52 |
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Sorry |
Nuclear Unicorn |
Jun-02-10 03:17 PM |
#64 |
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And what does this have to do with this display of thuggery being put on by Israel? |
Raineyb |
Jun-02-10 04:05 PM |
#90 |
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Netanyahu shot himself in the foot. |
lumberjack_jeff |
Jun-02-10 02:09 PM |
#3 |
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If only that asshole would aim about six feet higher.... nt |
T Wolf |
Jun-02-10 02:12 PM |
#5 |
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Sick. n/t |
Dutch |
Jun-03-10 08:07 AM |
#211 |
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"expired medications"??? |
Sanity Claws |
Jun-02-10 02:13 PM |
#6 |
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No, not neccessarily. |
ColesCountyDem |
Jun-02-10 02:14 PM |
#9 |
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True, not necessarily, but likely so |
subsuelo |
Jun-02-10 02:27 PM |
#19 |
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No facts to support that assumption. n/t |
ColesCountyDem |
Jun-02-10 02:28 PM |
#21 |
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Nor any for yours. Why are your opinions so very special? |
Ignis |
Jun-02-10 02:57 PM |
#54 |
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They're not, just pointing out that the contrary may also be true. |
ColesCountyDem |
Jun-02-10 03:17 PM |
#63 |
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That's a completely inane speculation |
Inuca |
Jun-02-10 02:32 PM |
#24 |
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They just murdered 10 peace activists |
subsuelo |
Jun-02-10 03:23 PM |
#71 |
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Or did they shoot 10 blockade runners who violently resisted being boarded? |
ColesCountyDem |
Jun-02-10 03:34 PM |
#79 |
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Yes, and I trust the peace activists, not IDF spokespeople. n/t |
subsuelo |
Jun-02-10 03:45 PM |
#84 |
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2 sides: The shooters and the shot. Whom shall we believe? |
Ignis |
Jun-02-10 04:37 PM |
#116 |
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That is rather the question, isn't it? |
ColesCountyDem |
Jun-02-10 04:43 PM |
#119 |
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I don't think so, but you may, if you like. |
Ignis |
Jun-02-10 04:44 PM |
#121 |
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I prefer to let the things speak for themslves. |
ColesCountyDem |
Jun-02-10 04:46 PM |
#124 |
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So we can't trust eyewitness accounts at all, ever, in any circumstance? |
Ignis |
Jun-02-10 04:49 PM |
#130 |
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Possibly, as long as we aren't selective about WHICH eyewitnesses we listen to. |
ColesCountyDem |
Jun-02-10 04:55 PM |
#136 |
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i believe it was 10 peace activists who rightfully defended themselves from an illegal boarding |
Bodhi BloodWave |
Jun-03-10 01:32 AM |
#208 |
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I guess some humanitarian aid is more.... necessary than others. |
LanternWaste |
Jun-02-10 02:26 PM |
#17 |
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And scoring a propaganda victory is perhaps more necessary still. n/t |
ColesCountyDem |
Jun-02-10 02:27 PM |
#20 |
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The cargo was stolen off the boats by Israel and probably doesn't include all of the aid collected. |
Better Believe It |
Jun-02-10 02:31 PM |
#23 |
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So what do you think that Israel withheld |
Inuca |
Jun-02-10 02:34 PM |
#27 |
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Yes I do. Did you see the stuff on that blockade list? |
Raineyb |
Jun-02-10 02:51 PM |
#46 |
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Accepting the stolen cargo would amount to sanctioning the blockade. |
Better Believe It |
Jun-02-10 02:32 PM |
#25 |
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It also leads to the continued hardships of the people they profess to care about. |
ColesCountyDem |
Jun-02-10 02:36 PM |
#30 |
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Really? Why? |
Inuca |
Jun-02-10 02:37 PM |
#32 |
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Israel supplies water and electricity to Gaza |
harkadog |
Jun-02-10 02:58 PM |
#55 |
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If Israel could cut it, they would. What do you think the international response to that would be? |
Better Believe It |
Jun-02-10 04:58 PM |
#139 |
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So if people in TJ were lobbing rockets into San Diego |
harkadog |
Jun-02-10 05:27 PM |
#154 |
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Israel should just torpedo the entire "relief" fleet and let them all sink. nt |
old mark |
Jun-02-10 02:37 PM |
#33 |
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I hope that was meant as sarcasm.... |
mike_c |
Jun-02-10 03:14 PM |
#60 |
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But they can't. Because the world will not put up with the crime against Gaza any longer. |
EFerrari |
Jun-02-10 06:12 PM |
#174 |
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Everyone Is NOT Released |
slipslidingaway |
Jun-02-10 02:41 PM |
#36 |
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I don't have a link to ANY article written by the IDF. |
ColesCountyDem |
Jun-02-10 02:44 PM |
#40 |
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CNN picked up the IDF article ... looks like CNN lists them as the source |
slipslidingaway |
Jun-02-10 02:50 PM |
#45 |
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Instead of money-laundering, we're seeing press-release-laundering. |
Ignis |
Jun-02-10 02:58 PM |
#56 |
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Yes and so obvious. n/t |
slipslidingaway |
Jun-02-10 03:03 PM |
#58 |
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Israel trying to cleanup after a fuckup |
Confusious |
Jun-02-10 02:55 PM |
#51 |
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Yes, they ARE stupid. |
ColesCountyDem |
Jun-02-10 03:20 PM |
#66 |
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Israel strictly controls what is allowed into Gaza ... |
slipslidingaway |
Jun-02-10 03:39 PM |
#82 |
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How's that agenda working out for you? |
Ignis |
Jun-02-10 02:56 PM |
#53 |
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Or the death of 20 blockade runners. n/t |
ColesCountyDem |
Jun-02-10 03:18 PM |
#65 |
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Does it matter? Liberals shouldn't cheer soldiers shooting civilians. |
Ignis |
Jun-02-10 03:23 PM |
#70 |
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A people who support the rule of law shouldn't automatically assume that criminals are noble. n/t |
ColesCountyDem |
Jun-02-10 03:24 PM |
#74 |
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Murder is not an appropriate response to resisting arrest. |
Ignis |
Jun-02-10 03:27 PM |
#75 |
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It happens even in civilian settings. n/t |
ColesCountyDem |
Jun-02-10 03:31 PM |
#78 |
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So Amadou Diallo excuses the actions of the IDF? |
Ignis |
Jun-02-10 03:36 PM |
#80 |
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Don't conflate issues, please. n/t |
ColesCountyDem |
Jun-02-10 03:59 PM |
#87 |
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See post # 78. |
Ignis |
Jun-02-10 04:01 PM |
#88 |
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I don't need to see it. I posted it, ffs! |
ColesCountyDem |
Jun-02-10 04:07 PM |
#93 |
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Clearing it up for you as YOU are clearly not getting it. He's calling YOU obtuse. |
Raineyb |
Jun-02-10 04:08 PM |
#95 |
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No, he's trying to conflate issues and set up a straw man. |
ColesCountyDem |
Jun-02-10 04:09 PM |
#97 |
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Actually, your OP is flamebait and BS. But you know that. |
EFerrari |
Jun-02-10 04:10 PM |
#99 |
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What I *know* is that it's neither. |
ColesCountyDem |
Jun-02-10 04:14 PM |
#104 |
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You can't know that because you've relied on the IDF as your source. |
EFerrari |
Jun-02-10 06:03 PM |
#168 |
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Oh, Hamas is the god of all truth? |
ColesCountyDem |
Jun-02-10 06:18 PM |
#178 |
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Why would Hamas be the other choice? Weak. |
EFerrari |
Jun-02-10 06:21 PM |
#181 |
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No weaker than half the predictable arguments you've posted. n/t |
ColesCountyDem |
Jun-02-10 06:23 PM |
#182 |
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Well, no. I have never defended Hamas. |
EFerrari |
Jun-02-10 06:26 PM |
#187 |
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Self-defense is an absolute defense to murder. |
ColesCountyDem |
Jun-02-10 10:07 PM |
#200 |
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Again, see post # 78. Who tried to excuse this by pointing to non-military incidents? |
Ignis |
Jun-02-10 04:23 PM |
#109 |
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The operative word in my post was 'too'. |
ColesCountyDem |
Jun-02-10 04:36 PM |
#115 |
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And the magic word "too" changes it from an excuse to ... what, exactly? |
Ignis |
Jun-02-10 04:43 PM |
#120 |
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If you resist arrest violently in civilian life, you too may get shot. |
ColesCountyDem |
Jun-02-10 04:47 PM |
#126 |
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So how, exactly, was I conflating two unrelated issues? |
Ignis |
Jun-02-10 04:48 PM |
#128 |
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You used the word 'murder', which is a conclusory term I did NOT use. |
ColesCountyDem |
Jun-02-10 04:52 PM |
#133 |
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Yes, I did. How does that word conflate two unrelated issues? |
Ignis |
Jun-02-10 04:58 PM |
#138 |
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You use the terms 'civilians' in reply, whereas I said 'blockade runners'. |
ColesCountyDem |
Jun-02-10 05:06 PM |
#141 |
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I'm not here to do your homework for you. Support your claim. |
Ignis |
Jun-02-10 05:15 PM |
#147 |
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And I'll remind you that you injected the term 'murder' into it. |
ColesCountyDem |
Jun-02-10 05:22 PM |
#152 |
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More hand-waving, no support. Try again. |
Ignis |
Jun-02-10 05:49 PM |
#162 |
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Then argue with yourself about what YOU said. |
ColesCountyDem |
Jun-02-10 06:14 PM |
#176 |
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"He's being rather polite about it." |
Ignis |
Jun-02-10 04:24 PM |
#110 |
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Nixon lives! nt |
laughingliberal |
Jun-02-10 03:28 PM |
#76 |
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LOL |
EFerrari |
Jun-02-10 04:12 PM |
#102 |
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I knew they should have driven a wooden stake through his heart! |
ColesCountyDem |
Jun-02-10 04:15 PM |
#107 |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Jun-02-10 03:30 PM |
#77 |
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Stupid n/t |
UndertheOcean |
Jun-02-10 03:39 PM |
#83 |
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I'm shocked, SHOCKED that this post hasn't been flushed to the dungeon. |
Ignis |
Jun-02-10 03:46 PM |
#85 |
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IDF flamebait? |
EFerrari |
Jun-02-10 04:08 PM |
#96 |
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I don't knowingly post flamebait. |
ColesCountyDem |
Jun-02-10 04:13 PM |
#103 |
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It's not flamebait, it's a perfectly legitimate issue... |
PCIntern |
Jun-02-10 04:46 PM |
#125 |
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Thank you. |
ColesCountyDem |
Jun-02-10 04:48 PM |
#127 |
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I think the point is many I-P stories are "legitimate issues" but still get sent to the IP dungeon.. |
marmar |
Jun-02-10 04:51 PM |
#132 |
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As this one likely will be. |
ColesCountyDem |
Jun-02-10 04:53 PM |
#134 |
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And yet you chose to post it in GD. That's odd. |
Ignis |
Jun-02-10 05:50 PM |
#163 |
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Mine isn't. My point is that stories based on IDF press releases |
EFerrari |
Jun-02-10 06:01 PM |
#167 |
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Yes, it is flamebait based on an IDF press release. |
EFerrari |
Jun-02-10 05:58 PM |
#166 |
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CNN said that, if you'd bothered to do more than scan the link. |
ColesCountyDem |
Jun-02-10 06:20 PM |
#180 |
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you didn't post flamebait |
davidinalameda |
Jun-03-10 01:50 PM |
#220 |
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Which DUers, precisely, are Hamas apologists? |
Ignis |
Jun-03-10 05:27 PM |
#223 |
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The two incidents can't be compared but are related |
CarlaLevin |
Jun-02-10 04:15 PM |
#106 |
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Let me buy you a drink! |
ColesCountyDem |
Jun-02-10 04:21 PM |
#108 |
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Turning away aid has nothing to do with being in Israeli trucks ... |
slipslidingaway |
Jun-02-10 04:32 PM |
#111 |
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I'm not all that bright, so I think |
PCIntern |
Jun-02-10 04:34 PM |
#113 |
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There was no great outrage, when the dead and maimed were 'only' Israelis. |
ColesCountyDem |
Jun-02-10 04:38 PM |
#117 |
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It sure is exciting around here... |
PCIntern |
Jun-02-10 04:44 PM |
#122 |
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Too exciting, at times. |
ColesCountyDem |
Jun-02-10 04:49 PM |
#129 |
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and yet you claim throughout this thread to have no agenda...? |
mike_c |
Jun-02-10 05:16 PM |
#148 |
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Well, he may make that claim... |
PCIntern |
Jun-02-10 05:18 PM |
#151 |
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yes, you've displayed your racism and hatred clearly for all to witness.... |
mike_c |
Jun-02-10 05:33 PM |
#156 |
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Here's an unpleasant fact. |
ColesCountyDem |
Jun-02-10 05:41 PM |
#160 |
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do you apply that reasoning to all "loser" groups or just Palestinians...? |
mike_c |
Jun-02-10 05:53 PM |
#165 |
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How about we apply it here and now? |
ColesCountyDem |
Jun-02-10 06:04 PM |
#169 |
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normally I'd just Ignore you after a remark as callous and un-liberal as that... |
mike_c |
Jun-02-10 06:25 PM |
#185 |
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Perfect! |
Caretha |
Jun-03-10 06:43 PM |
#225 |
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By the way, did any of those folks make the choice to support the losing side FOUR times over ... |
ColesCountyDem |
Jun-02-10 06:13 PM |
#175 |
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"Yeah, and fuck those Native Americans, too! Bunch of losers!" |
Ignis |
Jun-03-10 05:30 PM |
#224 |
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well, it's clear that you don't know much about who's doing most of the dying.... |
mike_c |
Jun-02-10 04:59 PM |
#140 |
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yes, and if the 'freedom fighters as you would call them |
PCIntern |
Jun-02-10 05:09 PM |
#144 |
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How about the Palestinians Hamas 'kneecaps', the bookstores it bombs, the dress code it imposes ... |
ColesCountyDem |
Jun-02-10 05:13 PM |
#146 |
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No, you don't. You have proven that amply in this case. n/t |
EFerrari |
Jun-02-10 06:08 PM |
#173 |
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Wrong. |
ColesCountyDem |
Jun-02-10 06:19 PM |
#179 |
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Objectively, you are defending murder and trying to bury that fact |
EFerrari |
Jun-02-10 06:28 PM |
#188 |
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I'm doing no such thing. |
ColesCountyDem |
Jun-02-10 10:06 PM |
#199 |
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And Hamas completely rejects the very idea of peace with Israel. |
ColesCountyDem |
Jun-02-10 05:10 PM |
#145 |
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Too much logic... |
PCIntern |
Jun-02-10 05:16 PM |
#149 |
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Should I also use inflammatory wording, and ALL CAPS? |
ColesCountyDem |
Jun-02-10 05:23 PM |
#153 |
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I believe that politemess goes a long way in this issue... |
PCIntern |
Jun-02-10 05:31 PM |
#155 |
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I try to remain civil, especially when the issue is a 'hot topic'. |
ColesCountyDem |
Jun-02-10 05:35 PM |
#157 |
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Politemess Yes |
Binka |
Jun-02-10 05:49 PM |
#161 |
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Thank you, I think! |
PCIntern |
Jun-02-10 05:52 PM |
#164 |
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Enjoy! |
ColesCountyDem |
Jun-02-10 06:06 PM |
#170 |
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Who are these peoiple? |
EFerrari |
Jun-02-10 06:08 PM |
#172 |
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And that is not true. But what a mediocre attempt to blame shift. |
EFerrari |
Jun-02-10 06:07 PM |
#171 |
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Not true, eh? |
ColesCountyDem |
Jun-02-10 06:16 PM |
#177 |
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No, like the bs OP you posted, this claim is also untrue. |
EFerrari |
Jun-02-10 06:24 PM |
#184 |
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So, Hamas has agreed to live in peace with Israel, eh? |
ColesCountyDem |
Jun-02-10 10:11 PM |
#202 |
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Doesn't surprise me. Hamas doesn't give a shit about the Gazans. |
proteus_lives |
Jun-02-10 06:23 PM |
#183 |
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Hamas refused medical help for their citizens too, so this is no surprise |
shira |
Jun-02-10 08:25 PM |
#197 |
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Yep. |
proteus_lives |
Jun-02-10 10:12 PM |
#203 |
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Have fun, all. |
ColesCountyDem |
Jun-02-10 06:26 PM |
#186 |
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We will. And I've reposted the Christian Science Monitor story debunking this IDF bs |
EFerrari |
Jun-02-10 06:39 PM |
#193 |
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It 'debunks' the IDF statement how? |
ColesCountyDem |
Jun-02-10 10:10 PM |
#201 |
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A half truth. Of course the IDF won't mention that it's holding hundreds of peace activists HOSTAGE |
EFerrari |
Jun-02-10 11:29 PM |
#207 |
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No, it's holding hundreds of blockade runners pending their deportation. n/t |
ColesCountyDem |
Jun-03-10 01:33 PM |
#216 |
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Key phrase: "Israel has attempted to deliver. . . " |
Alamuti Lotus |
Jun-02-10 07:28 PM |
#195 |
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best and most succinct summary in this thread.... |
mike_c |
Jun-02-10 09:26 PM |
#198 |
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And the key phrase is correct. |
ColesCountyDem |
Jun-02-10 10:13 PM |
#204 |
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Reason according to article JP: |
ave |
Jun-02-10 11:11 PM |
#205 |
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No dance here is the Hamas statement from a Palestinian source |
azurnoir |
Jun-02-10 11:22 PM |
#206 |
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I am dancing around nothing |
Alamuti Lotus |
Jun-03-10 03:43 AM |
#209 |
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A refusal is a refusal is a refusal. |
ColesCountyDem |
Jun-03-10 01:35 PM |
#217 |
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Yes, those Israelis are real bastards for trying to deliver huimanitarian aid to Gaza |
Dutch |
Jun-03-10 08:12 AM |
#212 |
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bastards for piracy, murder, and kidnapping in the first place |
Alamuti Lotus |
Jun-03-10 07:36 PM |
#226 |
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Unbelievable |
Dutch |
Jun-03-10 08:07 AM |
#210 |
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Yeah, I heard those picachu backpacks |
Tripmann |
Jun-03-10 09:11 AM |
#213 |
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I would imagine that many of those 'aid activists' who have... |
hayu_lol |
Jun-03-10 10:28 AM |
#214 |
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Are you trying to convince yourself or other people |
Tripmann |
Jun-03-10 10:37 AM |
#215 |
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UN official voices deep concern as Hamas raids offices of aid groups |
Ian David |
Jun-03-10 01:41 PM |
#218 |
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this is very interesting |
davidinalameda |
Jun-03-10 01:42 PM |
#219 |
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Zionist propaganda arm that is CNN failed to mention that Hamas demanded release |
IndianaGreen |
Jun-03-10 04:23 PM |
#221 |
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So what? |
ColesCountyDem |
Jun-03-10 05:24 PM |
#222 |
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