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shira Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-23-10 08:24 AM
Response to Reply #35
43. "Her facts on the IP conflict are correct"
Edited on Tue Feb-23-10 08:25 AM by shira
:rofl:

You mean like the 'fact' you tried pushing here that Olmert offered bantustans in 2008 to Abbas?
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  -Israel makes life very hard for Palestinians, says ICRC shergald  Feb-22-10 09:43 AM   #0 
  - This has been going on for hundreds of years  Christa   Feb-22-10 09:47 AM   #1 
  - Hundreds of years?  oberliner   Feb-22-10 09:54 AM   #3 
  - Since Biblical times  Christa   Feb-22-10 10:27 AM   #5 
     - How about from, say, 1200 until 1800?  oberliner   Feb-22-10 11:32 AM   #8 
     - I would not go down that road, as a supporter of the Palestinian cause  Douglas Carpenter   Feb-22-10 11:50 AM   #9 
  - The Occupation has been going on since 1967  LeftishBrit   Feb-22-10 09:57 AM   #4 
  - I love the I/P forum, for the same reason I love the Guns forum  Chulanowa   Feb-24-10 01:04 AM   #132 
  - Israeli settlers 'still building'?  shergald   Feb-22-10 09:48 AM   #2 
  - Should read "Israel makes life easy for extremists to recruit suicide bombers"  snagglepuss   Feb-22-10 10:40 AM   #6 
  - There has been a major reduction in terrorist attacks inside Israel  oberliner   Feb-22-10 11:15 AM   #7 
     - if they had built the wall only on Israeli land rather than steeling portions of Palestinian land  Douglas Carpenter   Feb-22-10 11:57 AM   #10 
     - Agreed  oberliner   Feb-22-10 12:53 PM   #12 
        - land swaps alone will not mean a contiguous state under current configurations  Douglas Carpenter   Feb-22-10 01:07 PM   #14 
        - You might want to look closely at the Geneva Initiative  oberliner   Feb-23-10 06:10 AM   #28 
           - the Geneva Initiative still calls for the removal of a significant number of settlements  Douglas Carpenter   Feb-23-10 06:30 AM   #31 
              - Both sides reject essential components of the Geneva Initiative  oberliner   Feb-23-10 06:55 AM   #34 
                 - the Palestinian leadership has not been offered anything comparable to the Geneva Initiative  Douglas Carpenter   Feb-23-10 07:10 AM   #37 
                    - Nor have they proposed anything comparable to it  oberliner   Feb-23-10 07:35 AM   #39 
                       - The PLO lead Palestinian Authority in the West Bank is the legitimate representative on negotiations  Douglas Carpenter   Feb-23-10 09:02 AM   #46 
                          - Great Point  oberliner   Feb-23-10 10:22 AM   #56 
                             - to be perfectly honest  Douglas Carpenter   Feb-23-10 11:06 AM   #63 
                                - You make some great points  oberliner   Feb-23-10 11:23 AM   #65 
        - "Land swaps" are laughable  Chulanowa   Feb-24-10 01:06 AM   #133 
     - That is certainly true.  shergald   Feb-22-10 12:08 PM   #11 
     - I cannot understand what would instigate someone to kill themselves and innocent civilians  oberliner   Feb-22-10 12:58 PM   #13 
        - Deleted message  Name removed   Feb-22-10 02:22 PM   #15 
        - Alison Weir?  oberliner   Feb-22-10 06:25 PM   #17 
           - Is it because Alison Weir is an advocate for Palestinian freedom?  shergald   Feb-22-10 11:01 PM   #20 
           - Revisionist treatment of the Holocaust  oberliner   Feb-23-10 04:19 AM   #22 
           - Of course I am familiar with Weir's site.  shergald   Feb-23-10 05:31 AM   #24 
           - ADL on Alison Weir  shira   Feb-23-10 06:10 AM   #29 
           - Abe Foxman has brought the ADL from its prime purpose to defending Israel right or wrong.  shergald   Feb-23-10 10:42 AM   #57 
              - Now you are claiming that Gilad Atzmon is not an anti-Semite?  oberliner   Feb-23-10 11:02 AM   #62 
              - To the anti-Israel bigot brigade, antisemitism is so narrowly defined that it hardly exists  shira   Feb-23-10 11:48 AM   #75 
              - I not getting it. Could you draw my attention to what it is in this article...  shergald   Mar-01-10 10:04 PM   #218 
              - The ADL is still very much a 'venerable organization.'  Behind the Aegis   Feb-23-10 11:14 AM   #64 
           - to be honest, I don't know anything about Alison Weir, but I do know people  Douglas Carpenter   Feb-23-10 06:32 AM   #32 
              - I haven't been impressed by what I've read from her site...  Violet_Crumble   Feb-24-10 12:26 AM   #130 
                 - I still haven't heard any specifics about why she should be banned.  shergald   Feb-25-10 08:51 AM   #150 
                    - Electronic Intifada is allowed, Ali Abunimah is allowed and they also  Douglas Carpenter   Feb-25-10 10:09 AM   #155 
                       - It would be helpful to members if DU were to publish a list of the not-allowed sites or persons.  shergald   Feb-25-10 05:26 PM   #156 
           - Here's a search of Weir's site.  shergald   Feb-23-10 05:42 AM   #25 
           - Links to the site are not permitted here  oberliner   Feb-23-10 06:04 AM   #27 
              - I see a lot of accusations, but no data. Weir's site is loaded with data.  shergald   Feb-23-10 06:28 AM   #30 
                 - Links to the site are not allowed  oberliner   Feb-23-10 06:46 AM   #33 
                    - I'd rather have the data which shows Weir is a Holocaust revisionist or denier.  shergald   Feb-23-10 07:06 AM   #36 
                    - Please feel free to PM the moderators for that information  oberliner   Feb-23-10 07:40 AM   #40 
                       - You made the assertion, not the moderators. Where's the data?  shergald   Feb-23-10 04:02 PM   #98 
                          - I have made no accusation  oberliner   Feb-23-10 05:27 PM   #107 
                             - All that is besides the point.  shergald   Feb-26-10 04:41 PM   #161 
                                - if you can't see that Gilad Atzmon is an antisemite, then no amount of evidence or reason will...  shira   Feb-26-10 05:52 PM   #162 
                                   - Deleted message  Name removed   Feb-28-10 12:21 PM   #207 
                    - Duplicate eleted.  shergald   Feb-23-10 07:23 AM   # 
                    - PS: I have no problems with Weir being censored here.  shergald   Feb-23-10 07:23 AM   #38 
                       - Still waiting for the data or statements re. Holocaust denial or revision.  shergald   Feb-23-10 10:09 AM   #54 
                          - What has the response been to your PM to the moderators?  oberliner   Feb-23-10 11:38 AM   #70 
                             - Quick word of warning to Shergold...  Violet_Crumble   Feb-23-10 01:48 PM   #94 
                                - Good point, thanks  oberliner   Feb-23-10 05:09 PM   #99 
                                - Yeah, I think it's a better safe than sorry sort of thing..  Violet_Crumble   Feb-24-10 12:15 AM   #127 
                                   - This forum has gotten pretty active lately  oberliner   Feb-24-10 05:04 AM   #137 
                                   - It does seem to have picked up pace a fair bit...  Violet_Crumble   Feb-24-10 05:33 AM   #138 
                                   - I think people are confused by "Israel National News"  oberliner   Feb-24-10 05:49 AM   #139 
                                   - Yes. And the Brits on DU are constantly gobsmacked by seeing the Daily Mail cited as a valid source  LeftishBrit   Feb-24-10 08:20 AM   #140 
                                   - But those places do reflect the caliber of people who would invite her to speak.  shergald   Feb-25-10 07:38 PM   #159 
                                - I have not shared any information from the moderators.  shergald   Feb-23-10 05:14 PM   #100 
                                - The rules about posting new threads are pretty strictly enforced...  Violet_Crumble   Feb-24-10 12:22 AM   #128 
                                   - It looks like an interesting site, and will take a look....  shergald   Feb-25-10 07:36 PM   #158 
                                   - How is that forum going? nt  oberliner   Feb-28-10 05:32 AM   #175 
                                   - It's going fine, thanks for asking n/t  Violet_Crumble   Feb-28-10 05:40 AM   #177 
                                - And thanks for that.  shergald   Feb-25-10 05:53 PM   #157 
           - From Alison Weir's bio. Are all of these institutions biased too.  shergald   Feb-23-10 07:00 AM   #35 
              - Here's an excerpt from the bio of Daniel Pipes  oberliner   Feb-23-10 07:49 AM   #41 
              - The first thing I asked: what the hell is Daniel Pipes being quoted on a left wing site?  shergald   Feb-23-10 08:20 AM   #42 
              - Same way I feel about Alison Weir  oberliner   Feb-23-10 10:20 AM   #55 
                 - But I just saw Daniel Pipes quoted.  shergald   Feb-23-10 10:47 AM   #58 
                 - See what you make of this  oberliner   Feb-23-10 10:53 AM   #60 
                    - This post was locked because the OP asked for it to be locked.  stranger81   Feb-23-10 11:32 AM   #67 
                       - Yes, indeed it was  oberliner   Feb-23-10 11:36 AM   #69 
                 - I didn't see Daniel Pipes or Campus Watch on the Hate Directory.  shergald   Feb-23-10 10:53 AM   #59 
                 - Pipes is not censored here at DU. . . .  stranger81   Feb-23-10 11:25 AM   #66 
                    - Are you saying that there are biases here that permit some to be quoted but not others?  shergald   Feb-23-10 11:41 AM   #72 
                       - That's pretty much the size of it n/t  Violet_Crumble   Feb-23-10 01:49 PM   #95 
                          - Thanks for the info.  shergald   Feb-23-10 05:17 PM   #101 
                 - That's not true at all. The mods do NOT agree with that sentiment...  Violet_Crumble   Feb-23-10 01:34 PM   #92 
              - You beat me to it!  LeftishBrit   Feb-23-10 09:44 AM   #50 
              - The perspectives of Pipes are very welcome here...  Violet_Crumble   Feb-23-10 01:36 PM   #93 
                 - Sorry to hear that.  shergald   Feb-23-10 05:19 PM   #102 
                 - when was the last time Pipes was linked here, and who here defends his views?  shira   Feb-23-10 05:21 PM   #103 
                    - Donate to DU and search for the answers yrself...  Violet_Crumble   Feb-24-10 12:23 AM   #129 
              - "Her facts on the IP conflict are correct"  shira   Feb-23-10 08:24 AM   #43 
              - You saw the maps and read their sources  shergald   Feb-23-10 08:45 AM   #45 
              - Duplicate deleted.  shergald   Feb-23-10 09:06 AM   #47 
              - Here's Olmert's BANTUSTAN offers, once again. Note the sources.  shergald   Feb-23-10 09:06 AM   #48 
                 - It was a 100% land deal which logically means no bantustans & here's a map from 2008 not 2007  shira   Feb-23-10 11:33 AM   #68 
                    - It has been routine practice for Israelis never to present anything on paper.  shergald   Feb-23-10 12:07 PM   #76 
                       - What part of Abbas admitting it was a 100% land proposal are you not understanding?  shira   Feb-23-10 12:15 PM   #78 
                          - Not at all. You saw the two maps provided earlier by Olmert.  shergald   Feb-23-10 12:30 PM   #82 
                          - so the recent map and the Abbas admission of a 100% proposal mean nothing?  shira   Feb-23-10 12:34 PM   #84 
                             - You read my post saying the opposite.  shergald   Feb-23-10 05:22 PM   #104 
                                - again, will you pretend this map and proposal by Olmert never happened...  shira   Feb-23-10 05:37 PM   #109 
                                   - Bye, bye.  shergald   Feb-23-10 09:27 PM   #119 
                                   - Hey, I just tried to PM you...  Violet_Crumble   Feb-24-10 12:37 AM   #131 
                                   - Yes I did block personal messages.  shergald   Feb-24-10 08:24 AM   #141 
                                   - Do you think that DailyKos has a bias, either proIsrael or proPalestinian?  oberliner   Feb-25-10 05:27 AM   #146 
                                   - Daily Kos doesn't touch IP on its frontpage. and only member diaries represent the area.  shergald   Feb-25-10 07:09 AM   #147 
                                   - Apart from the big left wing blogs, Israel is more concerned with censoring major news sources.  shergald   Feb-25-10 08:03 AM   #148 
                          - Let me repeat another post to this question.  shergald   Feb-23-10 12:33 PM   #83 
                             - your repetitions are irrelevant as Abbas rejected this and said disagreement gaps were too wide  shira   Feb-23-10 03:56 PM   #96 
                                - Deleted message  Name removed   Feb-23-10 05:27 PM   #106 
                                   - I did, but you're pretending Olmert's offer wasn't serious when Erekat and Abbas say he was serious  shira   Feb-23-10 05:54 PM   #112 
                                      - So Olmert was willing to give the store to the Palestinians....  shergald   Feb-23-10 08:08 PM   #115 
                                      - Shira aren't you omiting something too?  azurnoir   Feb-23-10 09:48 PM   #121 
                                      - so what? Even if Netanyahu offered everything Olmert says was offered, Abbas would reject it  shira   Feb-23-10 09:56 PM   #122 
                                      - Boloney.  shergald   Feb-23-10 10:46 PM   #124 
                                      - Abbas should have accepted - then, no matter what the Knesset would have done...  shira   Feb-24-10 04:59 AM   #134 
                                      - What I am doing is ponting out  azurnoir   Feb-23-10 11:12 PM   #126 
                                      - What you're doing is obfuscating....can't admit that Abbas wants what Israel cannot rationally grant  shira   Feb-24-10 04:59 AM   #135 
                                      - Did Olmert stop the colonization?  shergald   Feb-24-10 08:46 AM   #143 
                                      - Pfft there is nothing to as you claim obsfuscate  azurnoir   Feb-24-10 11:24 PM   #145 
                                      - delete n/t  azurnoir   Mar-01-10 03:41 PM   #214 
              - Having spoken/ contributed to respectable places does not mean that you can't be bigoted or wrong...  LeftishBrit   Feb-23-10 09:43 AM   #49 
                 - I have read the materials on Weir's site. Can you go there and find any article that falsified facts  shergald   Feb-23-10 10:02 AM   #51 
                    - I just quoted such an example in my other post...  LeftishBrit   Feb-23-10 10:08 AM   #53 
                    - Weir is likely referring to the fact that AIPAC writes legislation for the Congress and Senate...  shergald   Feb-23-10 10:59 AM   #61 
                    - It's one thing to say that AIPAC has an influence, especially on policies that directly relate to  LeftishBrit   Feb-23-10 12:41 PM   #86 
                       - There are even books written about Israel's input into starting the Iraq War.  shergald   Feb-23-10 05:36 PM   #108 
                          - Deleted message  Name removed   Feb-23-10 05:59 PM   #113 
                    - Weir's threshold for truth is her belief backed by her manipulation of selective information  shira   Feb-23-10 11:43 AM   #74 
                       - Repeat this for you as well.  shergald   Feb-23-10 12:15 PM   #79 
                          - Do you get a nickel for each time you mention ethnic cleansing or colonization?  shira   Feb-23-10 12:18 PM   #81 
                          - I have criticized Israel for the Occupation, the blockade of Gaza, OCL and the current far-RW  LeftishBrit   Feb-23-10 12:57 PM   #88 
                    - JEBUS! You post articles here like Olmert's "bantustans" that falsify facts and lie by omission!  shira   Feb-23-10 11:39 AM   #71 
                       - Olmert's first two conceptions, mapped out by the BBC and the UN, were bantustan solutions.  shergald   Feb-23-10 12:13 PM   #77 
                          - "someone....pulled another map"? FFS! Abbas himself admitted it was a 100% land deal!  shira   Feb-23-10 12:16 PM   #80 
                             - Reposting this response for the same question.  shergald   Feb-23-10 12:35 PM   #85 
                                - and once again, witholding Olmert's latest map/offer and showing past lesser offers is dishonest  shira   Feb-23-10 05:23 PM   #105 
                                   - Missed it. After all we only heard about it a year later, two months before Olmert left office.  shergald   Feb-23-10 08:12 PM   #116 
           - She is more than that...  LeftishBrit   Feb-23-10 10:04 AM   #52 
              - Please provide the links to this information.  shergald   Feb-23-10 09:34 PM   #120 
                 - A direct link to IAK would be deleted, but...  LeftishBrit   Feb-24-10 08:29 AM   #142 
                    - And here's a link to the article about Rahm Emmanuel,,,  LeftishBrit   Feb-25-10 08:18 AM   #149 
                       - Why would that article be deleted?  shergald   Feb-25-10 08:57 AM   #151 
                          - I just reviewed Wikipedia's review of If Americans Knew.  shergald   Feb-25-10 09:13 AM   #152 
                          - I assume it's OK to quote Wikipedia. But if in doubt, ask the mods.  LeftishBrit   Feb-25-10 09:51 AM   #154 
                          - This is a board specifically for liberals, not for every possible point of view  LeftishBrit   Feb-25-10 09:47 AM   #153 
                             - Well, this is also the IP section. Does that mean that the right wing Likud party is not supported..  shergald   Feb-28-10 11:36 AM   #206 
                                - I certainly hope that no one here supports the Likud party.  LeftishBrit   Feb-28-10 05:37 PM   #209 
                                   - Deleted message  Name removed   Feb-28-10 06:29 PM   #210 
           - No one is defending suicide bombers here. But you asked why?  shergald   Feb-22-10 11:06 PM   #21 
              - I didn't ask why  oberliner   Feb-23-10 05:59 AM   #26 
                 - Well now you understand it.  shergald   Feb-23-10 08:31 AM   #44 
                    - My point is that I do not - nothing that you have posted explains suicide bombings  oberliner   Feb-23-10 11:42 AM   #73 
                       - The point I have been trying to make is that a lot of innocent Palestinians were killed, including..  shergald   Feb-23-10 01:22 PM   #91 
                          - Victims are killed throughout the world, dispossessed, dehumanized...but they don't send their kids  shira   Feb-23-10 03:58 PM   #97 
                             - Most of the suicide bombers during the second Intifada were adults.  shergald   Feb-23-10 05:41 PM   #110 
                             - but PA and Hamas TV show that the state sponsors and encourages child 'martyrs'  shira   Feb-23-10 06:01 PM   #114 
                                - There have been no suicide bombings for seven years.  shergald   Feb-23-10 08:20 PM   #117 
                                - Want to understand terrorism as it sits in your mind?  shergald   Feb-23-10 08:37 PM   #118 
                                   - Deleted message  Name removed   Feb-23-10 10:09 PM   #123 
                                      - View the documentary and stop complaining.  shergald   Feb-23-10 10:53 PM   #125 
                                         - it's hate porn that only dehumanizes and demonizes. It doesn't help Palestinians  shira   Feb-24-10 05:03 AM   #136 
                                            - I hope that others will engage this documentary.  shergald   Feb-24-10 11:03 AM   #144 
                                            - Hate porn? What a silly comment. Here is a list of the participants.  shergald   Feb-26-10 06:36 PM   #163 
                                            - yes - hyperbole, lies by omission, antisemitic memes and tropes, etc...  shira   Feb-26-10 07:45 PM   #164 
                                            - Well heck then, it's "communist fascist hate terror antisemitism pedophile porn".  bemildred   Feb-26-10 07:48 PM   #165 
                                            - Shira and Ober, they never give up.  shergald   Feb-28-10 05:26 PM   #208 
                                            - I've made no comment on this sub-thread  oberliner   Feb-28-10 08:46 PM   #212 
                                            - you mentioned something earlier...  Shaktimaan   Feb-27-10 07:42 AM   #167 
                             - Yes, some of them do.  LeftishBrit   Feb-28-10 08:24 AM   #188 
                                - is this call to suicide martyrdom state-sponsored, encouraged, celebrated by the govt in charge?  shira   Feb-28-10 08:27 AM   #189 
                                   - What government would that be. This was a people under military occupation.  shergald   Feb-28-10 11:31 AM   #205 
                                   - Actual suicide is not common. But celebration of martyrdom in war - of course!  LeftishBrit   Mar-01-10 05:10 PM   #215 
        - Another point is the correlated question:  shergald   Feb-22-10 02:26 PM   #16 
        - What motivated US soldiers to rape and kill a teenage girl and also kill her family?  oberliner   Feb-22-10 06:33 PM   #18 
           - I think you've got two different things.  Donald Ian Rankin   Feb-22-10 07:39 PM   #19 
              - I don't agree with your conclusions  oberliner   Feb-23-10 05:23 AM   #23 
                 - Some people are harder to dehumanise than others...  shaayecanaan   Feb-23-10 05:44 PM   #111 
        - Duplicate deleted.  shergald   Feb-23-10 12:56 PM   #87 
        - Reposted with Alison Weir expunged. Writing is my own or from the references cited.  shergald   Feb-23-10 12:58 PM   #89 
           - This post was a reply to #13.  shergald   Feb-23-10 01:10 PM   #90 
           - Just taking Alison Weir's name and links out does not change  Dick Dastardly   Feb-27-10 09:38 PM   #171 
              - You can't spin facts, my friend.  shergald   Feb-28-10 05:47 AM   # 
              - You can't spin facts, my friend.  shergald   Feb-28-10 05:47 AM   #179 
     - But it did not stop the killing of Palestinians.  shergald   Feb-27-10 06:36 AM   #166 
        - Retaliatory bombings?  oberliner   Feb-27-10 09:24 AM   #168 
           - Let me repeat this information for you.  shergald   Feb-27-10 07:11 PM   #169 
              - When people read stories like that of Fatma al-Najar...  shergald   Feb-27-10 07:37 PM   #170 
              - Indeed. Facts matter. Ideologues will try spin and misdirection,  ConsAreLiars   Feb-28-10 01:10 AM   #172 
              - Someone actually asked me for proof that ethnic cleansing occurred or is occurring.  shergald   Feb-28-10 06:21 AM   #181 
              - Who was the four month old child killed by the IDF in the first month of the intifada?  oberliner   Feb-28-10 04:25 AM   #173 
              - You are correct. There are no 4 month old children in the list.  shergald   Feb-28-10 05:32 AM   #174 
                 - I appreciate the correction  oberliner   Feb-28-10 05:43 AM   #178 
                 - If your point was to doubt Weir's credibility, I believe you now know differently.  shergald   Feb-28-10 06:11 AM   #180 
                    - I will make no further comment about Alison Weir  oberliner   Feb-28-10 06:25 AM   #182 
                       - Palestinians have been wrapped up in the term "terrorists" at least since the second Intifada.  shergald   Feb-28-10 07:43 AM   #184 
                          - Islamic resistance terror cannot be explained away as some natural reaction to Israeli actions  shira   Feb-28-10 08:09 AM   #186 
                          - People here are intelligent enough to make up their own minds.  shergald   Feb-28-10 10:52 AM   #203 
                          - Thinking about motivations  oberliner   Feb-28-10 08:36 AM   #191 
                             - Those motivations were supported by the statements of Rantisi...  shergald   Feb-28-10 11:08 AM   #204 
                                - Rantisi: "We will kill Jews everywhere."  oberliner   Feb-28-10 08:48 PM   #213 
                 - I would like to learn more about the circumstances surrounding this 4 year old child's death  oberliner   Feb-28-10 08:33 AM   #190 
                    - Look up the site, Remember These Children.  shergald   Feb-28-10 10:49 AM   #202 
                       - No further information to be found there  oberliner   Feb-28-10 08:43 PM   #211 
                          - Your original purpose was to defame Weir.  shergald   Mar-01-10 07:08 PM   #216 
                             - People make mistakes  oberliner   Mar-01-10 11:14 PM   #219 
              - Correction: "4 months of age" should read "4 years of age."  shergald   Feb-28-10 05:33 AM   #176 
  - Last word on ALison Weir.  shergald   Feb-26-10 04:24 PM   #160 
     - Weir's hateful article on CounterPunch about Israel organ harvesting included the blood libel  shira   Feb-28-10 07:01 AM   #183 
        - If I were to provide a list of authors who have published on Counterpunch...  shergald   Feb-28-10 08:05 AM   #185 
           - Appeal to authority is a logical fallacy - it's sad you don't understand how nasty her shit is  shira   Feb-28-10 08:14 AM   #187 
              - To each his own as far as resources are concerned.  shergald   Feb-28-10 08:45 AM   #192 
                 - first things first, why did she bring in the medieval blood libel in the first place?  shira   Feb-28-10 08:50 AM   #193 
                 - Your guess is as good as mine.  shergald   Feb-28-10 09:22 AM   #194 
                    - It doesn't matter what Chomsky says about Israel Shahak - it is well known Shahak is antisemitic  shira   Feb-28-10 09:31 AM   #195 
                       - If you would only spell out those abbreviations, I might understand them.  shergald   Feb-28-10 09:54 AM   #197 
                          - it's pretty hard to focus on real I/P issues when blatant antisemitism is whitewashed  shira   Feb-28-10 09:59 AM   #198 
                             - Oh please.  shergald   Feb-28-10 10:23 AM   #200 
                                - LOL  shira   Feb-28-10 10:48 AM   #201 
                 - Counterpunch has both left-wing and right-wing contributors  LeftishBrit   Feb-28-10 09:38 AM   #196 
                    - Where I read, I see Counterpunch described as leftist.  shergald   Feb-28-10 10:16 AM   #199 
                       - Is Pat Buchanon leftist in your view? Glenn Greenwald writes for his rag.  shira   Mar-01-10 07:57 PM   #217 
                          - Greenwald summed that chesnut quite well  azurnoir   Mar-02-10 12:09 AM   #220 
                             - Greenwald? He often writes of the "power" of Jewish lobbies and problem with Jews' dual loyalty  shira   Mar-02-10 06:34 PM   #221 
 

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