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Thu Feb-18-10 12:50 PM
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| 32. Nation: a group of people with a shared history and a sense of a group identity |
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As opposed to a territorial or political entity (i.e. country, state).
That is the sense in which the Jewish people are often thought of as a nation.
One can think of (for example) the "Romani nation" in a similar way. Although they live in many different countries, they have a shared history and sense of group identity.
A more recent example of the term "nation" being used in this fashion would be "Red Sox Nation"- that term has been used to describe the fans of a particular baseball team in the United States since the mid 1980s.
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| -Questioning Our Special Relationship with Israel |
stephinrome |
Feb-14-10 02:45 AM |
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Feb-14-10 03:08 AM |
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I don't understand why Israel needs all that money from the US... |
Violet_Crumble |
Feb-14-10 03:22 AM |
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Maybe because you aren't surrounded |
17breezes |
Feb-14-10 09:29 AM |
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Israel isn't surrounded by them either. ... |
Violet_Crumble |
Feb-15-10 04:07 AM |
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The Lobby says they "need" it |
TomClash |
Feb-14-10 10:18 AM |
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Feb-14-10 10:31 AM |
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excellent article |
Douglas Carpenter |
Feb-14-10 05:09 AM |
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Easy way to get a little more money to the US military industrial complex |
oberliner |
Feb-14-10 10:11 AM |
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Agree with all your points. |
LeftishBrit |
Feb-18-10 12:21 PM |
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Israel is not the biggest recipient of aid in reality. Not by a long shot. |
Dick Dastardly |
Feb-18-10 08:33 PM |
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at the cost of poisoning America's relationships with a very large and vitally important portion |
Douglas Carpenter |
Feb-19-10 12:28 AM |
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Your post and Dick's make it clear what most of the considerations in the circles of power are about |
LeftishBrit |
Feb-20-10 04:36 PM |
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Personally, I am an anti-Imperialist and would like America to wean itself out of the empire |
Douglas Carpenter |
Feb-21-10 12:48 AM |
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top six recepients of U.S. Foreign aid |
Douglas Carpenter |
Feb-18-10 10:51 PM |
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Have been looking for exactly this information. |
Sal Minella |
Feb-14-10 09:35 AM |
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Good luck |
TomClash |
Feb-14-10 10:21 AM |
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thanks for comments n/t |
stephinrome |
Feb-15-10 02:18 AM |
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I have a few questions. |
aranthus |
Feb-15-10 06:49 PM |
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Excellent questions. I look forward to the author of the OP answering them. |
shira |
Feb-16-10 08:33 AM |
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Take a look at the numbers |
Donald Ian Rankin |
Feb-16-10 01:03 PM |
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could you clarify your statement? |
Mosby |
Feb-16-10 01:27 PM |
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Only those that discriminate on grounds of race are racist, many more than that are bigotted. |
Donald Ian Rankin |
Feb-16-10 02:20 PM |
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I am confused. |
Shaktimaan |
Feb-18-10 03:40 AM |
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Go tell that to a breast cancer specialist. |
Donald Ian Rankin |
Feb-18-10 07:33 AM |
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Dude, give me a break. |
Shaktimaan |
Feb-18-10 10:44 AM |
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Genetic liability to certain disorders hardly constitutes 'race' |
LeftishBrit |
Feb-18-10 12:17 PM |
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Quite possibly. |
Donald Ian Rankin |
Feb-18-10 12:34 PM |
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wow, Donald! |
shira |
Feb-16-10 01:59 PM |
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Why only Arab countries ? |
azurnoir |
Feb-18-10 08:03 AM |
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Because the "the other Arabs could take them" meme serves two purposes |
Ken Burch |
Feb-19-10 01:23 PM |
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says a lot when some DU'ers would rather see Palestinian refugees rot in camps another 60 years |
shira |
Feb-19-10 01:28 PM |
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First, thank you for stating your position honestly. |
aranthus |
Feb-18-10 12:00 PM |
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The one thing Jews are *not* is a nation. |
Donald Ian Rankin |
Feb-18-10 12:24 PM |
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The Jews are, in fact, a nation. |
Behind the Aegis |
Feb-18-10 12:30 PM |
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No, you learn the meaning of the word "nation". |
Donald Ian Rankin |
Feb-18-10 12:37 PM |
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Feb-18-10 12:40 PM |
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Nation: a group of people with a shared history and a sense of a group identity |
oberliner |
Feb-18-10 12:50 PM |
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Of course, there is also the Cherokee Nation, Iroquois Nation, First People Nation... |
Behind the Aegis |
Feb-18-10 12:52 PM |
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Historically, all those were genuine nation states or approximations thereof, I believe? |
Donald Ian Rankin |
Feb-18-10 01:01 PM |
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And they are still nations today even though they don't have political/geographical boundries. |
Behind the Aegis |
Feb-18-10 01:05 PM |
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Do you believe the Palestinians are a nation? |
Violet_Crumble |
Feb-18-10 02:05 PM |
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Well, isn't one of the basic cornerstones of nationality that... |
Shaktimaan |
Feb-20-10 03:20 AM |
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Feb-20-10 05:26 AM |
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I learned something today. |
OllieLotte |
Feb-18-10 04:29 PM |
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OK, this is getting absurd. |
Shaktimaan |
Feb-20-10 03:57 AM |
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For an answer to your questions on right-of-return, see the following JP Op-Ed......... |
kayecy |
Feb-18-10 02:08 AM |
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There is no mention of the right of return |
aranthus |
Feb-18-10 11:09 AM |
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Not explicitly, but a one-state solution, by implication, gives Palestinians a right-of-return..... |
kayecy |
Feb-18-10 01:30 PM |
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No it doesn't. |
aranthus |
Feb-18-10 01:35 PM |
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Right-of-return for Palestinians in refuge or full rightof-return for every ex-part Palestinian? |
kayecy |
Feb-19-10 05:52 AM |
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Well, the WB Palestinians wouldn't need any ROR in that case. |
Shaktimaan |
Feb-20-10 03:11 AM |
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