Green_Lantern
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Fri Feb-12-10 12:17 PM
Response to Reply #45 |
| 46. well I looked back at what I said.... |
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And it was worse than what I meant to say. I meant I really used to be more naive about the Palestinians thinking they were all basically hostages to Hamas but now I realize Hamas has a great deal of support among the populace.
I still sympathize with the Palestinians caught in the middle of this.
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| -Israeli diplomats 'hazed' on campus |
ensho |
Feb-11-10 11:36 AM |
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I suspect that people are tired of the same old accusations- |
notadmblnd |
Feb-11-10 11:51 AM |
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You can say that agin. nt |
Christa |
Feb-11-10 12:10 PM |
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disagreeing with Israeli policy is one thing.. |
Green_Lantern |
Feb-11-10 01:31 PM |
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No, that guy wasn't protested because he's Israeli... |
Violet_Crumble |
Feb-11-10 01:33 PM |
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well they didn't know if he even supported the policies they |
Green_Lantern |
Feb-11-10 01:38 PM |
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Of course people know that he's the Israeli ambassador and supporter of the govts policies... |
Violet_Crumble |
Feb-11-10 01:40 PM |
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borders on anti-semitism... |
Green_Lantern |
Feb-11-10 02:02 PM |
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LOL |
azurnoir |
Feb-11-10 02:12 PM |
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yes and your point? |
Green_Lantern |
Feb-11-10 02:20 PM |
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No racism in your posts either... |
MUAD_DIB |
Feb-11-10 02:29 PM |
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that's their own designation... |
Green_Lantern |
Feb-11-10 02:37 PM |
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Why not just call them darkies? |
MUAD_DIB |
Feb-11-10 10:13 PM |
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You are aware that there are Iraqis, Syrians, Lebanese and other non palestinian arabs living in |
Kurska |
Feb-12-10 12:18 AM |
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What do they call Palestinians living in Israel? |
MUAD_DIB |
Feb-12-10 01:14 AM |
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The terminology issue... |
Violet_Crumble |
Feb-12-10 02:15 AM |
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I would call them Israeli citizens. n/t |
Kurska |
Feb-12-10 04:32 PM |
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you equate Palestinian as a racial slur? |
Green_Lantern |
Feb-12-10 10:28 AM |
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No. When they are called Arabs I do. It is a great way of marginalizing them. |
MUAD_DIB |
Feb-12-10 11:25 AM |
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I wasn't using it as a slur... |
Green_Lantern |
Feb-12-10 11:31 AM |
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why? They call themselves |
Green_Lantern |
Feb-12-10 11:36 AM |
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If Israel had never been what would they call themselves? |
MUAD_DIB |
Feb-12-10 11:53 AM |
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no not all Arabs in Israel are of Palestinian descent... |
Green_Lantern |
Feb-12-10 11:59 AM |
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Semantics... |
MUAD_DIB |
Feb-12-10 01:14 PM |
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no its not... |
Green_Lantern |
Feb-12-10 01:43 PM |
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Wrong. It is a derogatory term used to marginalize the Palestinians. |
MUAD_DIB |
Feb-12-10 02:38 PM |
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well that's not how I meant it.. |
Green_Lantern |
Feb-12-10 02:44 PM |
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The international community doesn't give a shit about them. |
MUAD_DIB |
Feb-12-10 02:46 PM |
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other Arab nations do pretend.. |
Green_Lantern |
Feb-12-10 02:53 PM |
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I really don't care about the comparison. Using the "well they're treated better here |
MUAD_DIB |
Feb-12-10 02:55 PM |
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how are Arab citizens of Israel treated as 2nd class citizens.. |
Green_Lantern |
Feb-12-10 02:59 PM |
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For starters... Right of return. |
MUAD_DIB |
Feb-12-10 03:07 PM |
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return where? |
Green_Lantern |
Feb-12-10 03:10 PM |
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Thanks or the sophistry. Good luck with the purging of the |
MUAD_DIB |
Feb-12-10 03:21 PM |
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I never said any of that.... |
Green_Lantern |
Feb-12-10 03:37 PM |
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I got your number, sparky. Nice try. |
MUAD_DIB |
Feb-12-10 03:41 PM |
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on that note.... |
Green_Lantern |
Feb-12-10 03:51 PM |
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well there is a fair amount of data available on that subject |
Douglas Carpenter |
Feb-12-10 03:45 PM |
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Thanks for the historical content. |
MUAD_DIB |
Feb-12-10 05:36 PM |
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you already made your point |
azurnoir |
Feb-11-10 02:38 PM |
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the point is they don't just disagree with govt policy.. |
Green_Lantern |
Feb-11-10 02:42 PM |
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They despise the Israeli occupation of the West Bank |
azurnoir |
Feb-11-10 02:59 PM |
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they despise everything Israel does... |
Green_Lantern |
Feb-11-10 03:04 PM |
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Here is what was said from YOUR quote |
azurnoir |
Feb-11-10 10:57 PM |
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if it walks like a duck... |
Green_Lantern |
Feb-12-10 10:31 AM |
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Great. Just what this forum needs. Another mind-reader... |
Violet_Crumble |
Feb-12-10 12:54 AM |
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well I doubt they blame Arabs in Israel for the occupation... |
Green_Lantern |
Feb-12-10 10:33 AM |
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Why do you think someone has to either blame Arabs or Jews? |
Violet_Crumble |
Feb-12-10 02:33 PM |
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because in this conflict... |
Green_Lantern |
Feb-12-10 02:49 PM |
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That makes you an idealogue too then? |
Violet_Crumble |
Feb-12-10 08:30 PM |
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no I'm not an ideologue on Israel.... |
Green_Lantern |
Feb-13-10 02:25 PM |
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No, it doesn't. What you posted said zero about Jewish culture... |
Violet_Crumble |
Feb-12-10 12:46 AM |
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no but I doubt anti-semites are inclusive in their views |
Green_Lantern |
Feb-12-10 10:39 AM |
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Now yr accusing these protesters of being antisemitic? |
Violet_Crumble |
Feb-12-10 02:20 PM |
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no, not every protester... |
Green_Lantern |
Feb-12-10 02:32 PM |
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Um, I also believe that. Oren's a supporter of all that... |
Violet_Crumble |
Feb-12-10 02:37 PM |
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yes exactly the point... |
Green_Lantern |
Feb-12-10 02:56 PM |
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And the problem with that is? |
Violet_Crumble |
Feb-12-10 08:34 PM |
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no I said I have no problem with people disagreeing |
Green_Lantern |
Feb-13-10 02:32 PM |
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Pathetic behavior on their part. |
Behind the Aegis |
Feb-11-10 02:14 PM |
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these students are as crazy as |
Green_Lantern |
Feb-11-10 02:22 PM |
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Yes, they are. |
Behind the Aegis |
Feb-11-10 02:24 PM |
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Just because people protest against a regime you appear to support doesn't make them crazy... |
Violet_Crumble |
Feb-12-10 12:49 AM |
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the protest isn't what makes them crazy... |
Green_Lantern |
Feb-12-10 10:43 AM |
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yelling, screaming & shouting = crazy |
stranger81 |
Feb-12-10 11:43 AM |
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yeah Israel defending itself is sure crazy... |
Green_Lantern |
Feb-12-10 11:57 AM |
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You might want to consult a dictionary on the difference between "defense" and "offense." |
stranger81 |
Feb-12-10 03:52 PM |
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Israel's problem is that it's response can be too |
Green_Lantern |
Feb-12-10 04:10 PM |
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bombing and murder is crazy I agree... |
Green_Lantern |
Feb-12-10 12:04 PM |
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So when Israel bombs and murders it's 'self-defence'.? |
Violet_Crumble |
Feb-12-10 02:38 PM |
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no, not always... |
Green_Lantern |
Feb-12-10 03:07 PM |
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Let's be really clear here. The situation is Gaza... |
Violet_Crumble |
Feb-12-10 08:36 PM |
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Right. During OCL, for every 1 Israeli killed, the IDF killed 100 Palestinians. |
stranger81 |
Feb-13-10 02:35 PM |
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I'd have to be crazy not to hate death and destruction.. |
Green_Lantern |
Feb-14-10 10:59 AM |
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As angry, very probably yes; as stupid, no - these guys have good cause to be angry. |
Donald Ian Rankin |
Feb-12-10 08:23 AM |
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I sympathized with Palestinians until Israel pulled out of... |
Green_Lantern |
Feb-12-10 10:47 AM |
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actually Hamas won 44% of the total vote versus 41% for Fatah |
Douglas Carpenter |
Feb-12-10 11:33 AM |
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as far as the election.... |
Green_Lantern |
Feb-12-10 11:54 AM |
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as the article of August 26, 2005 posted above from Associated Press points out |
Douglas Carpenter |
Feb-12-10 12:05 PM |
#45 |
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well I looked back at what I said.... |
Green_Lantern |
Feb-12-10 12:17 PM |
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please please be accurate.... |
pelsar |
Feb-12-10 06:14 PM |
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Do you agree with what Green Lantern said? |
Violet_Crumble |
Feb-12-10 08:38 PM |
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no.not at all |
pelsar |
Feb-13-10 12:24 AM |
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actually I agree with what you said.... |
Green_Lantern |
Feb-13-10 02:38 PM |
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The Gaza withdraw was justified by Mr. Sharon to his constituency on the basis that it would help |
Douglas Carpenter |
Feb-12-10 10:01 PM |
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The Government also made a lot of noise about how unilateral the withdrawal was. |
bemildred |
Feb-12-10 10:30 PM |
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well yes Sharon certainly made much of how unilateral the agreement was and how much it would |
Douglas Carpenter |
Feb-12-10 10:40 PM |
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Hey Doug! |
bemildred |
Feb-12-10 10:55 PM |
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and hamas would have "canned their plans"... |
pelsar |
Feb-13-10 12:57 AM |
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Yes, I know you prefer to stick to the straw men and self-pity, so much more satisfying. nt |
bemildred |
Feb-13-10 08:16 AM |
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of course it was self interest...that what countries do... |
pelsar |
Feb-13-10 12:44 AM |
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I don't begrudge you the self-interest, it's the shooting yourself in the foot I'm talking about. nt |
bemildred |
Feb-13-10 08:17 AM |
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do you have the actually the stats? |
pelsar |
Feb-13-10 12:29 AM |
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Doug your not going to like this.....the STATS |
pelsar |
Feb-13-10 01:07 AM |
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Sharon's government approved the Gaza withdraw plan on June 6, 2004 |
Douglas Carpenter |
Feb-13-10 02:35 AM |
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bingo! |
pelsar |
Feb-13-10 02:48 AM |
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if you want me to say that armed militias in the Gaza made matters worse |
Douglas Carpenter |
Feb-13-10 03:00 AM |
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the PA is not a militia |
pelsar |
Feb-13-10 03:04 AM |
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as I'm sure you must know it was Israel, not Hamas that broke the cease fire in Nov 08 |
Douglas Carpenter |
Feb-13-10 03:29 AM |
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totally irrelevant.... |
pelsar |
Feb-13-10 04:35 AM |
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Abbas has no control in Gaza... |
Green_Lantern |
Feb-14-10 11:04 AM |
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here is a video of the event" |
Douglas Carpenter |
Feb-11-10 02:47 PM |
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Do you support their actions? |
Behind the Aegis |
Feb-12-10 03:54 PM |
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I suppose I have mixed feelings |
Douglas Carpenter |
Feb-12-10 11:43 PM |
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Thank you for the response. |
Behind the Aegis |
Feb-12-10 11:54 PM |
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Thanks for posting that video... |
Violet_Crumble |
Feb-12-10 08:50 PM |
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Well said! |
ProgressiveMuslim |
Feb-13-10 06:25 AM |
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hi!! |
Douglas Carpenter |
Feb-13-10 07:37 AM |
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Hey Doug! |
ProgressiveMuslim |
Feb-14-10 10:48 AM |
#106 |
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